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Either adopt the Native's culture, or GTFO.

 
hapless moran

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Fight for justice.
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OP,the wheels of progress have crushed justice and left it in the dust. This juggernaut can not be stopped. The course of history has been programmed and there is not a STOP or Escape button that can be used. Appreciate the past but know that our ancestors' bones will only remain dust and ashes, that there are no newly resurgent indigenous empires rising. We are racing towards the precipice and looking back doesn't help.

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free your inner baboon.
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It sounds like you wish to hold the human race back from its destiny of becoming galactic beings.
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If you want to be a "galactic being", stay in your own country and become it.

Don't force your culture on other people who already have their own.
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Sounds like a plan, except for one thing. How the hell do we kick out 300,000,000 people from my country so that we can have it back?

We damn sure didn't invite them. Didn't ask for them in any manner. They just came and took what they wanted, and then demanded that we give them what was ours as well. We are no longer accepted as Americans. We sit at the lowest point of the countries social ladder. Even illegals are treated better than we are, and almost every one here is an illegal.
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That's fine but at the same time the aboriginies must forfeit all their technology white men gave them and return to the woods in a loin cloth and drink out of puddles. Fair enough? I'm more than happy to return to my motherland of Scandinavia.
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They would lose it after a while anyway. I think it sounds like a sweet deal. Have been arguing for this sort of thing forever. Everyone would be happier.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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I'm native American, so I feel your pain.

But I really wish if foreigners are gonna come here and work, it wouldn't be a job that requires much communication!

Almost any major company you call now has somebody speaking very poor broken English. Like really, you can't get the top bunch to answer the phones.

They all get upset when you ask if that name was randomly given or if they got to pick from a list.

beared
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Fight for justice.
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OP,the wheels of progress have crushed justice and left it in the dust. This juggernaut can not be stopped. The course of history has been programmed and there is not a STOP or Escape button that can be used. Appreciate the past but know that our ancestors' bones will only remain dust and ashes, that there are no newly resurgent indigenous empires rising. We are racing towards the precipice and looking back doesn't help.
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Very profound post Hapless hf
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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That's fine but at the same time the aboriginies must forfeit all their technology white men gave them and return to the woods in a loin cloth and drink out of puddles. Fair enough? I'm more than happy to return to my motherland of Scandinavia.
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Knowledge is knowledge.

Australian Aboriginals are responible for the discovery of penicillin.

Would you like to forfeit that too? See how stupid you are.

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12/04/2012 08:24 AM
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I'm ready to go back to technology-free times and live a more basic life. Count me in.
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Excellent thread well done op totally agree.


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I'm native American, so I feel your pain.

But I really wish if foreigners are gonna come here and work, it wouldn't be a job that requires much communication!

Almost any major company you call now has somebody speaking very poor broken English. Like really, you can't get the top bunch to answer the phones.

They all get upset when you ask if that name was randomly given or if they got to pick from a list.

beared
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I agree with you,I work with many Oneida and Ojibwe people in the community and I often hear something along the lines of "our languages were beaten out of our grandparents and WE HAD to learn English, why are these people allowed to think that instead of learning English that they can expect us to learn their language".
free your inner baboon.
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12/04/2012 08:41 AM
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I'm native American, so I feel your pain.

But I really wish if foreigners are gonna come here and work, it wouldn't be a job that requires much communication!

Almost any major company you call now has somebody speaking very poor broken English. Like really, you can't get the top bunch to answer the phones.

They all get upset when you ask if that name was randomly given or if they got to pick from a list.

beared
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I agree with you,I work with many Oneida and Ojibwe people in the community and I often hear something along the lines of "our languages were beaten out of our grandparents and WE HAD to learn English, why are these people allowed to think that instead of learning English that they can expect us to learn their language".
 Quoting: hapless moran


Every native thing is now a joke.

For example, the natives selling stuff at flea markets and such are looked at like bums for the most part.

Most people think since "we" have casinos that all natives are wealthy. (Couldn't be farther from the truth)

For the language, I seen a deaf couple at a large pharmacy. The lady attempting to help them, was telling people it was gonna be a while cause she was having trouble communicating with them. She told people in the drive thru "I'm waiting on a deaf couple so it will be a few minutes"

Had they been speaking Spanish I'm sure it wouldn't have been a problem! But since they have a medical impairment apparently it is.

Like arrow heads are mass produced now.
Anything beaded is more of a cheap knock off.
I suppose like everything else, technology is as much to blame.

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People from the land ;)
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12/04/2012 09:28 AM
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You will never be forgiven for how much innocent lives you took, British Empire.

The blood of those babies you smited so mercilessly, will always be on your hands.
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12/04/2012 10:26 AM
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a savage theyd'e call me
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people are too scared to try the easy life of living with nature

they would rather go to work like good slaves for companies that poo on their heads

and to go to war, and send their children to war, to defend those who bully their children at school, road rage at them, sell products at outrageous profits, poison us with misinformation about foods and health, those who take and hold land and call others lazy yet what they claim as theirs, is unproductive and barren, own multiple houses so they can gain more and more while their own people have no opportunity

to vote for a system of few choices and lies of careerists

they rather shit next to their bedrooms and kill the native vegetation for paper to wipe their asses

those who believe in food shortages and food pyramids are those who eat eat eat, yap yap yap rush rush rush want to gobble up the world and leave their throw away society as inheritance for their own

i'm in for no more fed media from the mind corruptors

when they will stop wanting to hate and kill those different from them we may have a chance to

no understanding of what makes them different from a corpse

playing the charade out daily, and bragging to all of how well they play it, and burning the opinions of those who stand different, even when their way of life was obviously superior

claiming they won the fight when using higher tech against peoples wiped out well in the 80%+ from the formers diseases

ambition is their word for greed, fence sitting their word for steadfastness and so on

we cannot understand who we were, before the physical, if we rot in societies not tied to nature and any wanting the chance, where can they practice this lifestyle?

angry skinheads and shaved heads like manikans, beardless like women and young boys, women shaving to recapture their youth, such vanity and utilitarian functions like bots

to what end?

btw, fuck anyone talking about punctuation and grammar, if you cannot understand what I have said you shouldn't know them words anyway

land thieving whores, greedy bastards, non understanding of food sharing and friendship without conditions

wheres the escape from this shit, the worlds full of it, and justifiers of it, and excuse makers for it

freddy may be right, this life has only one sweet moment set aside for us ...................

im down for koorie lifestyle, marsupials dont transmit their diseases to humans when eaten, what a free and easy life

go buy an energy drink, i'll crush some blady grass roots onto a piece of bark with a stone and drink up

ide rather move away to a better area when the environment stirs up rather than crying to some suit wearing prick about my insurance, whack up another comfortable shelter in a few hours and fire harden and shape the spear, dig some tubers, plant some seeds, drink from clear creeks and dance and sing and swim and run without fear of trespassing some angry old warmongers milk thieving operations and get shot from a distance they can be safe from retaliation

yeah...fuck them greedy bastards

pity our family and friends are already perverted into "their" cultural program and to do it now, would be to do it alone, far from "mans" established areas, to walk away from them all is the hard part but if they are diseased, well, we may have to

let the zombs have at it, the dust will settle
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12/04/2012 11:49 AM
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You stick a bone in your nose first asshole!
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12/04/2012 10:17 PM
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Here’s a historical fact you’ll have a hard time finding in a book;

From the time of around the mid 1800’s to the late 1800’s, all white people in Australia were given full authority, by the Royal British Family, to murder any Australian Aboriginal they came across, if they so chose. Only if the Australian Aboriginals made it to the mountains and hills, were whites forbidden to kill them.

What kind of fucked up shit is that?
uk
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people are too scared to try the easy life of living with nature

they would rather go to work like good slaves for companies that poo on their heads

and to go to war, and send their children to war, to defend those who bully their children at school, road rage at them, sell products at outrageous profits, poison us with misinformation about foods and health, those who take and hold land and call others lazy yet what they claim as theirs, is unproductive and barren, own multiple houses so they can gain more and more while their own people have no opportunity

to vote for a system of few choices and lies of careerists

they rather shit next to their bedrooms and kill the native vegetation for paper to wipe their asses

those who believe in food shortages and food pyramids are those who eat eat eat, yap yap yap rush rush rush want to gobble up the world and leave their throw away society as inheritance for their own

i'm in for no more fed media from the mind corruptors

when they will stop wanting to hate and kill those different from them we may have a chance to

no understanding of what makes them different from a corpse

playing the charade out daily, and bragging to all of how well they play it, and burning the opinions of those who stand different, even when their way of life was obviously superior

claiming they won the fight when using higher tech against peoples wiped out well in the 80%+ from the formers diseases

ambition is their word for greed, fence sitting their word for steadfastness and so on

we cannot understand who we were, before the physical, if we rot in societies not tied to nature and any wanting the chance, where can they practice this lifestyle?

angry skinheads and shaved heads like manikans, beardless like women and young boys, women shaving to recapture their youth, such vanity and utilitarian functions like bots

to what end?

btw, fuck anyone talking about punctuation and grammar, if you cannot understand what I have said you shouldn't know them words anyway

land thieving whores, greedy bastards, non understanding of food sharing and friendship without conditions

wheres the escape from this shit, the worlds full of it, and justifiers of it, and excuse makers for it

freddy may be right, this life has only one sweet moment set aside for us ...................

im down for koorie lifestyle, marsupials dont transmit their diseases to humans when eaten, what a free and easy life

go buy an energy drink, i'll crush some blady grass roots onto a piece of bark with a stone and drink up

ide rather move away to a better area when the environment stirs up rather than crying to some suit wearing prick about my insurance, whack up another comfortable shelter in a few hours and fire harden and shape the spear, dig some tubers, plant some seeds, drink from clear creeks and dance and sing and swim and run without fear of trespassing some angry old warmongers milk thieving operations and get shot from a distance they can be safe from retaliation

yeah...fuck them greedy bastards

pity our family and friends are already perverted into "their" cultural program and to do it now, would be to do it alone, far from "mans" established areas, to walk away from them all is the hard part but if they are diseased, well, we may have to

let the zombs have at it, the dust will settle
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Too right, man!
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Thats racist stoner
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You will never be forgiven for how much innocent lives you took, British Empire.

The blood of those babies you smited so mercilessly, will always be on your hands.
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Oh yes.
I'm living in NZ because two sisters, 15 and 17, arrived here speaking only Gaelic after six months at sea.
What happened to their family back in Ireland?
Who knows.
But my culture and ancestry are in my bones, and while I'd love to go back and live in Ireland (always loved emerald green) that's problematic for all sorts of reasons.
Weirdly I get on really well with Maori-not so much the English descent locals-big fat fucking surprise as a lot of them are still nostalgic for God, Queen and Empire.
And murder and theft.
The local Maori are fine with me and others like me being here.
Rewi, one of my closest friends here is really pleased that I'm fine with my Celtic background because I'm not a 'wannabe' Maori or Indian-he's married to a Canadian Indian.
They find it irritating that whites come looking to be a part of their culture.
They understand the vicissitudes of (mis)fortune and history which is why I'm here and not in SW Ireland.
The conclusion I've come to after long talks and a lot of thought is that Shit Happened in the past and continues to happen.
Which I'll help redress-and I do, being involved in local politics.
The lesson I've learnt from reading all sides of the history is-it could have been done so much better.
In theory.
Perhaps.
I'm sure there decent Englishmen during the 19th century.
But we're stuck with a situation and that leeson about the past I'm applying to the present and future (if there fucking is one); get it right from now on.
One of the things I'm doing here is being a ranger in a group dedicated to replanting native trees.
I'm also involved in plans for aquaponics,Tesla tech and various other cutting edge stuff, both with Maori and whites.
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I'm a mix of Italian, French, Irish, Scottish, Spanish, English and Cree (native canadian), so which homeland should I go back to?
Wouldn't it be great to heal the world, with only a song?
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You will never be forgiven for how much innocent lives you took, British Empire.

The blood of those babies you smited so mercilessly, will always be on your hands.
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Oh yes.
I'm living in NZ because two sisters, 15 and 17, arrived here speaking only Gaelic after six months at sea.
What happened to their family back in Ireland?
Who knows.
But my culture and ancestry are in my bones, and while I'd love to go back and live in Ireland (always loved emerald green) that's problematic for all sorts of reasons.
Weirdly I get on really well with Maori-not so much the English descent locals-big fat fucking surprise as a lot of them are still nostalgic for God, Queen and Empire.
And murder and theft.
The local Maori are fine with me and others like me being here.
Rewi, one of my closest friends here is really pleased that I'm fine with my Celtic background because I'm not a 'wannabe' Maori or Indian-he's married to a Canadian Indian.
They find it irritating that whites come looking to be a part of their culture.
They understand the vicissitudes of (mis)fortune and history which is why I'm here and not in SW Ireland.
The conclusion I've come to after long talks and a lot of thought is that Shit Happened in the past and continues to happen.
Which I'll help redress-and I do, being involved in local politics.
The lesson I've learnt from reading all sides of the history is-it could have been done so much better.
In theory.
Perhaps.
I'm sure there decent Englishmen during the 19th century.
But we're stuck with a situation and that leeson about the past I'm applying to the present and future (if there fucking is one); get it right from now on.
One of the things I'm doing here is being a ranger in a group dedicated to replanting native trees.
I'm also involved in plans for aquaponics,Tesla tech and various other cutting edge stuff, both with Maori and whites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4473716


White invasions has done so much damage, that a lot of people either ignore or weirdly cannot see.

Natives could happily survive without most shit we now have to have to survive today, since white culturalization. We need shit like plastic to carry water, food, etc. Natives used wood for such things.

If whites want to have that sort of lifestyle and are too stupid and money hungry to use non-enviromentaly damaging tools like the natives did, then THEY GO BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND DO IT.

Why should other more evolved cultures have to push themselves down, to suit the lifestyle of the seemingly less evolved white culture, ON THEIR OWN LAND??

All cultures have their own land. It's just disgusting that there are groups with power that can and do come and unjustifyingly overrule them.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should, doesn't mean it's morally right.
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I'm a mix of Italian, French, Irish, Scottish, Spanish, English and Cree (native canadian), so which homeland should I go back to?
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You have a blood claim to all wink.
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The land will always rightfully belong to you, Australian Aboriginals ;D. No matter what any cunt says :).
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All natives of the world, stand up for your rights!
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But how far back do we go? Which natives at what time? Australia pretty much knows their original aborigines, but even in America there's a question: Kennewick Man.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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But how far back do we go? Which natives at what time? Australia pretty much knows their original aborigines, but even in America there's a question: Kennewick Man.
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putin
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I'm a mix of Italian, French, Irish, Scottish, Spanish, English and Cree (native canadian), so which homeland should I go back to?
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Two of my grandparents were born in the Ukraine (Odessa and Kiev) and two in Hannibal, Missouri yet by blood I'm Sephardic, Imperial Russian, German, Irish and Croatan Indian.

Tell me OP where do I belong?

Give up?

I belong where the Creator incarnated me. Beautiful British Columbia, Canada.
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I'm a mix of Italian, French, Irish, Scottish, Spanish, English and Cree (native canadian), so which homeland should I go back to?
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Two of my grandparents were born in the Ukraine (Odessa and Kiev) and two in Hannibal, Missouri yet by blood I'm Sephardic, Imperial Russian, German, Irish and Croatan Indian.

Tell me OP where do I belong?

Give up?

I belong where the Creator incarnated me. Beautiful British Columbia, Canada.
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Self-righteous much?

Like I told the other poster, you have a blood claim to all of those countries.

I swear there is so much retards on this forum.
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I hope you take an arrow to the knee.
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