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Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'

 
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Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
You guys already thought of that. It's called Detroit.
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It's called FEMA camps, which is where the politically undesirables will be sent in revenge for their oppositional votes.

Detroit will no longer be a city, didn't you read that? They are so far in debt they are going to cease being a city, haha!
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
They've also created a pretty system of colored triangles and stars to identify the KINDS of nuisances.
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Good morning, DB!!

I've met a few along the way who would certainly be candidates.


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Morning Lady Jane

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How are you feeling?
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Much better -- few more days & all should be near normal again.

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They need to stop down grading people and treating them like animals. Social engineering - treat people like criminals, they'll act like it.

Its time to try the reverse. Start treating people with respect.
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These are folks in public housing, getting government hand outs. Has nothing to do with anyone else. Otherwise, it would be completely unacceptable.

Already is on the border line. Out-casting less fortunate people like them like this, will organize them. Not to mention it creates a them against us mentality.

There must be a better way. This is not the 1700's!
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
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People that don't have lots of money are scum. ohyeah
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They've also created a pretty system of colored triangles and stars to identify the KINDS of nuisances.
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ohyeah
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Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
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People that don't have lots of money are scum. ohyeah
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That wasnt my point. The idea of separating neighborhoods is already in place. Unfortunately, its a money making HOA scheme. But in some ways, it works (keeps neibors accountable for maintaining their property, etc)
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Amsterdam is to create "Scum villages" where nuisance neighbours and anti-social tenants will be exiled from the city and rehoused in caravans or containers with "minimal services" under constant police supervision.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Here's a documentary on scum villaige life:

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They need to stop down grading people and treating them like animals. Social engineering - treat people like criminals, they'll act like it.

Its time to try the reverse. Start treating people with respect.
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Respect must be earned...act respectfully and be treated accordingly.
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
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A lot of HOAs are run by some serious psychopaths.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023577


A lot of HOAs are run by some serious psychopaths.
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That is a fact!!!
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson
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They should call them detriot, chicago, atlanta, st louis, and memphis.
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023577


HOA's ?

I'd rather have a HO passed out on my front lawn, than to live in a 'planned' community. Hell, I had to put the beat down on my wife one time when looking for a home to buy.

She loved the house, the neighborhood, and the community park. I was fine with it too, until I opened a cupboard door that had all the rules posted on a sheet tacked to the inside of the door.

Google HOA rules ............
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023577


A lot of HOAs are run by some serious psychopaths.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


That is a fact!!!
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I lived in a very pricey one in Heath, Texas. Never again!! Cannot believe I let the husband talk me into that.

Had a male neighbor who got so po'd at a meeting because he could not verbally browbeat me that he actually took a swing in my direction. In the next few seconds he learned some surprising facts about his petite neighbor.

I doubt he has tried to hit any woman since.

chuckle

Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 12/04/2012 08:41 AM
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Standard Daily Telegraph bullshit.

But hey what to expect from scum like Rupert Murdoch.

Dutch source;

[link to www.trouw.nl]

In short, there are people who produce a lot of problems for their neighbors (think loud music at night in an appartmentblock, threatening neighbors etc. etc.), due to how Dutch law works they can't just be kicked out to the street easily.

What is proposed is essentially moving them (after several warnings and most likely a lawsuit) to a trailer park for 6 months before they can get back in a public housing unit. As for "minimal services" it's proposed to be near industrial sites and such so you won't live close by to for example supermakets, doctors etc. (keep in mind they will still live in Amsterdam so these services would still be within like 3 to 5 miles max).

All in all can't say I disagree with it.
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Decent people are always trying to move away from scum (behavior, not just poor- many poor people are kind) but the scum follows them and whines they are left out, constantly ruining the brief mini-utopias the decent are able to create. Miserable people want to drag everyone down with them. "Some men just want to watch the world burn" as they say.
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nuisance neighbours and anti-social tenants

we call them tokkies.

[link to nl.wikipedia.org]
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And the rest of the world calls them cloggies or dutch
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They are going to have these scum villages get together and raid taco bells.
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Ugh. Why dont they do the opposite?

Build (or use an existing) beautiful community and only allow in families who are law-abiding and respectful.

They sort have already do this with HOA's in nicer neighborhoods. Except they filter people with money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023577


A lot of HOAs are run by some serious psychopaths.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


That is a fact!!!
 Quoting: Fire Watch


I lived in a very pricey one in Heath, Texas. Never again!! Cannot believe I let the husband talk me into that.

Had a male neighbor who got so po'd at a meeting because he could not verbally browbeat me that he actually took a swing in my direction. In the next few seconds he learned some surprising facts about his petite neighbor.

I doubt he has tried to hit any woman since.

chuckle
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Go Lady! I just moved from what was considered the best neighborhood in the county. The children could not have basketball goals in the driveway, if you had a bush or tree die you could not replace it with the same variety w/o going before the board, no growing a tomato plant in the back yard, etc. I am now living in a 25 year old community but am free to do whatever the hell I want as long as it is legal...freedom!
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
~sigh

When will we figure this out...???

(copied from: [link to www.facebook.com]

"I was recently told of an African tribe that does the most beautiful thing.

When someone does something hurtful and wrong, they take the person to the center of town, and the entire tribe comes and surrounds him. For two days they’ll tell the man every good thing he has ever done.

The tribe believes that every human being comes into the world as GOOD, each of us desiring safety, love, peace, happiness.

But sometimes in the pursuit of those things people make mistakes. The community sees misdeeds as a cry for help.

They band together for the sake of their fellow man to hold him up, to reconnect him with his true Nature, to remind him who he really is, until he fully remembers the truth from which he'd temporarily been disconnected: "I AM GOOD"."


If we don't figure this out on our own, we are going to get one hell of a lesson. It will be powerful.

Fasten your seat belts!
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when i lived in amsterdam noise and neighbors was primary problem
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
While hard for Americans to fathom - much of the housing in Amsterdam is owned by the city and is available on a percentile of income basis to all citizens. Housing is considered a right for all. City owned buildings and tenants paying 20% of their pension or social security/welfare income can be located anywhere - even in the most costly and desirable neighborhoods along the Keizersgracht or Prinzengracht (the Kings Canal and the Princes' Canal respectively - two of the most expensive and ancient areas of the city). Most of these "social housing" tenants that are Dutch have waited years to get an apartment in such an area and they behave like their much wealthier neighbors who are often paying 10 or 20 times per month more rent than the "social housing" tenants are.

However, there are problems with various Muslims and Sudanise immigrants who refuse to integrate into or have anything to do with Dutch culture and they behave as if they were still wondering the desert on camels or living in the jungles of the Sudan on the edge of the deserts. These people are often unemployed for generations, do not speak either Netherlands or English (refusing free courses in both) and are often involved in violent crimes, drug dealing, car thefts, burglaries, and more than a few murders on an annual basis.

Getting them OUT of the areas when they behave in this way and isolating them is actually a great idea! (I lived in Amsterdam for three years - loved it - and would go back there in a second if I could earn a living there.) They could lower the crime rate in the rest of the city, re-educate the ones who don't want to stay in the "scum" areas, and save the historic buildings and flats from utter destruction of these idiot who don't care and don't bother cleaning their own space - much less the area outdoors around their buildings.

As an American Expat living in Amsterdam, we were paying $1600/mo for a 1900 sq ft./ two bedroom, two bath new modern apartment inside of a row house on the Keizersgracht. Our electric and gas and water were included! We paid for phone, cable, and internet service. We had fiber optic TV and Internet years before Verizon rolled out FIOS in LA and NYC. We had two full floors in the building and it even had a Pogenphol kitchen with Miele appliances! It was dirt cheap by LA or NYC standards and our dutch neighbors were shocked that the bank that owned the building could charge such an outrageous price for it. We were thrilled as my tax free housing allowance check was for almost Three Thousand every month (on top of salary) and we were able to bank it for the whole three years we were there. (A common arrangement for US execs moved to an out-of-US-area btw.) I'm told the same apartment is now renting for about 2900 Euro's per month. Or about $3500 dollars. Still not a bad price for the space and the area. The building did have an elevator which is RARE in the older houses that have been converted to apartments. But this one was owned by Fortis Bank and they didn't mind improving to the max to command high rents from expats. The wealthy Dutch wouldn't pay that kind of money for rent - they'd go live in social housing as long as they could and then use their extra income to buy an apartment to rent out to others and make money doing so! (The Dutch are "thrifty" to the point of cheapness- but not in an unkind way. The city literally starved to death for four years during the Nazi occupation and their is always the fear of not having enough food/medicine/necessities - even now two generations or three later. Those scars run deep in the psyche of a nation it seems.)
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So more like, modern concentration camps.
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i agree though. put them all together. let them irritate each other
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"Repeat offenders should be forcibly removed from their neighbourhood and sent to a village for scum," he suggested last year. "Put all the trash together."

1. Round em up
2. Take them out.

Where have we seen this before?!? We keep repeating the same mistakes over & over...
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Well, just so long as they don't put any Jews in these ghettos, I guess it's okay.
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i agree though. put them all together. let them irritate each other
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Until they decide that it's you who is a nuisance...

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