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Google is building Skynet (This is the REAL Dec. 21, 2012 Singularity event)

 
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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LoL @ citing TheBlaze. Glenn Beck = Idol1
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The retards, ^ like this fine example ^, are why I have no patience to teach any longer...
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a brain is a fractal system of matter that grows and decays in response to external stimuli...

...like a plant

Until artificial computer systems are made of systems that grow and decay, they cannot achieve true AI. Only simulated AI. Which is not only much less efficient, but behaves differently as well.
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Correct.

That's exactly what genetic algorithms do. They don't have to be implemented in organic matter or hardware.

Software works just fine.
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They want to build the star trek computer for the entire planet earth. How is this a bad thing?
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What's wrong is that ends up being Colossus.

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With all due respect Mr. Carsh. I can't help but suspect you are hoping to become half man half train like your avatar.

Is becoming Carshy the Tank Engine your transhumanist fantasy?!?! Spill it!

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With all due respect Mr. Carsh. I can't help but suspect you are hoping to become half man half train like your avatar.

Is becoming Carshy the Tank Engine your transhumanist fantasy?!?! Spill it!

grinning
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He thinks he can he thinks he can....
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With all due respect Mr. Carsh. I can't help but suspect you are hoping to become half man half train like your avatar.

Is becoming Carshy the Tank Engine your transhumanist fantasy?!?! Spill it!

grinning
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He thinks he can he thinks he can....
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Zing!

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Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence).

Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime.

Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking.

How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed
[link to www.theblaze.com]

In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful.

Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask.

When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off".
Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured.


[link to www.theblaze.com]

This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk.

Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah...

terminator
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
[link to skreened.com]

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17

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Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence).

Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime.

Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking.

How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed
[link to www.theblaze.com]

In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful.

Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask.

When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off".
Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured.


[link to www.theblaze.com]

This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk.

Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah...

terminator
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Completely automated form of control. They would then be able to just sit back and enjoy lavishly.
[link to skreened.com]

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17

"Worst come to worst, my PEOPLES come first" Dilated Peoples
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With all due respect Mr. Carsh. I can't help but suspect you are hoping to become half man half train like your avatar.

Is becoming Carshy the Tank Engine your transhumanist fantasy?!?! Spill it!

grinning
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cruise

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Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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With all due respect Mr. Carsh. I can't help but suspect you are hoping to become half man half train like your avatar.

Is becoming Carshy the Tank Engine your transhumanist fantasy?!?! Spill it!

grinning
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He thinks he can he thinks he can....
 Quoting: *Evan*


Zing!

rimshot

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You guys...
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" . . . There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind . . "
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Our mind is unpredictable, has hidden thoughts, unconscious thoughts, coexisting thoughts, a machine is tard, since it won't tell apart a difference by what's evil or good, the beauty of mistakes in the human mind.... to err is human, machines cant do that
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" . . . There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind . . "
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Our mind is unpredictable, has hidden thoughts, unconscious thoughts, coexisting thoughts, a machine is tard, since it won't tell apart a difference by what's evil or good, the beauty of mistakes in the human mind.... to err is human, machines cant do that..... Sorry your circle jerks is annoying and pointless
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Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
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No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization.

Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen.
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Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
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No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization.
Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen.
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Can you expand on that?
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Evil is spiritual, human souls are interconnected, machines are isolated from universe, the brains machine's value would be more or less that of maggots.... Bwahahah
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Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence).

Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime.

Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking.

How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed
[link to www.theblaze.com]

In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful.

Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask.

When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off".
Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured.


[link to www.theblaze.com]

This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk.

Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah...

:terminator:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


1rof1"the size of a single red blood cell".

Thatwas what they said about the Atom, when itwas first discovered, that an individual household would beable to run our entire household on a unit the size of a dime . . . then Corporate Society got a hold of it, and now wehave Fukushimas etc.
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Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization.
Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Can you expand on that?
 Quoting: *Evan*


That we could possibly be doomed if this is allowed to happen. We are the lower low tech civilization.
[link to skreened.com]

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17

"Worst come to worst, my PEOPLES come first" Dilated Peoples
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Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization.
Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Can you expand on that?
 Quoting: *Evan*


It's an assertion based on military history. The culture with the better military technology always walks all over the culture with the less-developed tech.

Cowboys vs Indians. Mogols with stirrups vs. everyone without. Cro-Magnon with bow and sling vs Neanderthal.
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Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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1rof1"the size of a single red blood cell".

Thatwas what they said about the Atom, when itwas first discovered, that an individual household would beable to run our entire household on a unit the size of a dime . . . then Corporate Society got a hold of it, and now wehave Fukushimas etc.
 Quoting: truth 28397909


The actual quote is that nuclear reactors would generate power "too cheap to meter".

What's your point? Or do you even have one?
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Kurzweil is no doubt brilliant, but he's also a nutjob who longs for the "singularity", the point where human consciousness becomes one with computer tech. Guess what, Ray? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Yes, you were right to predict decades ago that eventually a computer would be powerful enough to beat all human chess players, but chess can be boiled down to pure mathematics. There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind. We are eternal, cosmic beings, Ray. Please wake the fuck up and figure that out, before you start trying to eat microchips and shit silicon.
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You are so obviously wrong, I don't even know where to start.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No, the poster is right. The only way this computer could mildly pose a threat is if it developed consciousness. There is no way to be certain that the technology will be available for this to happen, for the conditions to be present. Even if this machine developed rudimentary consciousness it may only be as 'smart' as an amoeba for the first while, at best. There is no way to tell how similar or different from human consciousness that would be.

No matter how complex and capable Skynet may be of predicting what products we feel like buying based on doing a whole buncha math and number-crunching, it cant predict how we will react from moment to moment based on free will and emotion.
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Ya like google "anticipates" what I want to search for when I type an P and it wants to jump to "porn"......hmmmm note to self maybe not let son use my personal computer.
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Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
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No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization.
Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Can you expand on that?
 Quoting: *Evan*


That we could possibly be doomed if this is allowed to happen. We are the lower low tech civilization.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Yup.

If the synthetic intellect were given access to any external manipulation capability, it could quite conceivably build something we could literally not understand which could result in our instantaneous extermination.

Or ascension.
Or who knows what.
We'd be bugs looking at a Toyota factory.

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Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence).

Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime.

Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking.

How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed
[link to www.theblaze.com]

In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful.

Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask.

When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off".
Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured.


[link to www.theblaze.com]

This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk.

Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah...

:terminator:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



the opposite is happening, google can't even stream a freakin youtube video anymore, microsoft software is such crap it barely runs basic programs. We have reached peak global intelligence, we are now on the downslide. It's all downhill here from now. 100 years from now, we will be living like they did 10,000 years ago.
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Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization.
Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Can you expand on that?
 Quoting: *Evan*


It's an assertion based on military history. The culture with the better military technology always walks all over the culture with the less-developed tech.

Cowboys vs Indians. Mogols with stirrups vs. everyone without. Cro-Magnon with bow and sling vs Neanderthal.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Ok, there were a few different ways I thought that anology could go, thanks for clearing up which one you meant.
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the opposite is happening, google can't even stream a freakin youtube video anymore, microsoft software is such crap it barely runs basic programs. We have reached peak global intelligence, we are now on the downslide. It's all downhill here from now. 100 years from now, we will be living like they did 10,000 years ago.
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cruise

That's a valid counterpoint, actually.
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Kurzweil is no doubt brilliant, but he's also a nutjob who longs for the "singularity", the point where human consciousness becomes one with computer tech. Guess what, Ray? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Yes, you were right to predict decades ago that eventually a computer would be powerful enough to beat all human chess players, but chess can be boiled down to pure mathematics. There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind. We are eternal, cosmic beings, Ray. Please wake the fuck up and figure that out, before you start trying to eat microchips and shit silicon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28969583


You are so obviously wrong, I don't even know where to start.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


No, the poster is right. The only way this computer could mildly pose a threat is if it developed consciousness. There is no way to be certain that the technology will be available for this to happen, for the conditions to be present. Even if this machine developed rudimentary consciousness it may only be as 'smart' as an amoeba for the first while, at best. There is no way to tell how similar or different from human consciousness that would be.

No matter how complex and capable Skynet may be of predicting what products we feel like buying based on doing a whole buncha math and number-crunching, it cant predict how we will react from moment to moment based on free will and emotion.
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The Japanese history of attempting AI is paved with complete failure.

I can understand why.

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Welcome to Dec.4, 2012, T-17 days on your Timewave Zero journey to infinite novelty. The path may include militarized robots under autonomous self-aware AI control which destroy entire human populations.

Have a pleasant journey.

Thread: SKYNET WARNING: New video of DARPA Atlas robot for use in the 2013 and 2014 "live disaster-response challenge events".

Thread: First Skynet will appear in Russia for the first time- in Russia create a control center of all Russian military robots
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Then the sun, smartest energy to ever exist, will wipe all that shit out at the perfect time. Just long enough for us to linger a while in it, so we never take TRUE LIFE for granted ever again.....
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Ya like google "anticipates" what I want to search for when I type an P and it wants to jump to "porn"......hmmmm note to self maybe not let son use my personal computer.
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Re: Google is building Skynet (This is the REAL Dec. 21, 2012 Singularity event)
Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence).

Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime.

Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking.

How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed
[link to www.theblaze.com]

In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful.

Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask.

When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off".
Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured.


[link to www.theblaze.com]

This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk.

Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah...

terminator
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



the opposite is happening, google can't even stream a freakin youtube video anymore, microsoft software is such crap it barely runs basic programs. We have reached peak global intelligence, we are now on the downslide. It's all downhill here from now. 100 years from now, we will be living like they did 10,000 years ago.
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That actually sounds preferable in my mind lol.

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