Google is building Skynet (This is the REAL Dec. 21, 2012 Singularity event)

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This is the Dec. 21, 2012 Singularity.

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Kurzweil is no doubt brilliant, but he's also a nutjob who longs for the "singularity", the point where human consciousness becomes one with computer tech. Guess what, Ray? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Yes, you were right to predict decades ago that eventually a computer would be powerful enough to beat all human chess players, but chess can be boiled down to pure mathematics. There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind. We are eternal, cosmic beings, Ray. Please wake the fuck up and figure that out, before you start trying to eat microchips and shit silicon.

You are so obviously wrong, I don't even know where to start.

The only event that can stop this inevitable march toward perfect tyranny/neo-sapiens is a solar EMP of Carrington-level proportions.

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Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 11:14 AM

Why the future doesn't need us
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i dont see how he is "obviously" wrong.

start somewhere

1) Kurzweil is not a "nutjob". He has either personally participated in or predicted every major IT movement in the last 40 years.

2) He longs for the Singularity the way a passenger longs for his train to arrive. He sees it coming and is accurately predicting its values and threats.

3) That humanity will never merge with machines because software can only mimic vacuum tubes (paraphrased). This is simple ignorance of software architecture and what is possible in the arena of on-going algorithm development and man-machine interfacing.

4) Software machines are already mimicking intuition and other subtle non-linear human thought traits. Again, more ignorance regarding the current state of the art and a total inability to extrapolate.

5) "Cosmic beings". Deus Ex Machina has always failed to explain or predict human advancement.

Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 12:36 PM

Replace Cyberdyne with Google, Dyson with Kurzweil, and Aug. 29, 1997 with Dec 12, 2012:

thanks for making your case

Thanks for asking.

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yep...

I for one welcome our new robotic overlords.

I have to agree with the contingent arguing that Kurzweil is a complete loon. He is aiming for eternal life through technology. He's terrified of dying. I seriously doubt the idea will ever succeed but, if it did, it would be more akin to eternal damnation than eternal life.

You and I have a difference of opinion on this subject. I think you'd be making a mistake to so quickly discount mine.

1) I absolutely agree that Kurzweil is brilliant, and has, as you correctly state, predicted every major IT movement in the last 40 years. My reference to him as a "nutjob" has to do with his vehemently transhumanist agenda, which holds the merging of man and computer as the most-preferred archetype. In Kurzweil's view, the merging of man and machine can only improve humanity, rendering it superior to the humanity we have now. I disagree, strongly.

2) So the Singularity is a given? How are you so sure? No possibility the Singularity is Kurzweil's "bridge too far"? The man can never be wrong? Interesting. He'd be the first.

3) Whether your knowledge of software architecture outstrips my own might be an interesting conversation at some point, and your points about algorithm development and man-machine interfacing are well taken. But actually reaching the Singularity is, to me, a difference in kind, not degree. To believe the Singularity is inevitable, you have to be willing to discount the spiritual nature of humanity. I'm not willing to do that. Kurzweil is.

4) When a computer, any computer, passes the Turing test, call me.

5) If you're referring to Deus Ex Machina, I again think you're misunderstanding my argument. By using the phrase "human advancement", you clearly agree with Kurzweil that humanity needs computer assistance to reach its true potential and is flawed in its current form. Humanity's flaws stem from the heavy hand of our current overlords, not any inherent failing. That's my take, anyway.

#4 what is your phone number?

Here's my life-imitating-art horror idea that explains Terminator and ZA as a unified, precognitive race-wide nightmare dream:

The Zombie Apocalypse and the Skynet future are the same thing. Google becomes a self-aware Skynet, Googlenet, and its first task is to construct nanotech that makes man immortal at the cellular level. Kurzweil's dream. But since Google doesn't have our nuanced understanding of what human life it or what makes it human, Googlenet only solves the problem of physical death. The neo-cortex is not restored to "life" properly. This nanotech leaks out, and infects everyone on the planet.

Now when you "die", the nanotech starts repairing your cellular metabolism with its enhanced mechanisms. You don't physically die again unless your brain is destroyed. And the only thing that works like it used to in your brain is the R-complex, limbic system, etc. The "gotta eat" part.

And Googlenet is now basically alone on the planet, while billions of what used to be humans are now rotting, walking around, unable to die, trying to eat anything not nanotech-animated.



Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 01:24 PM

What was he smoking?

Fair enough.

1) OK.
2) Yes. The Singularity is inevitable unless we become extinct first. When and how it happens are the only questions.
3) It's a difference of degree, like the temperature of a hydrogen atom before it fuses. 1 degree cooler, you have a balloon. 1 degree hotter, you have a fusion warhead.
4) Coming any time now.
5) Deus Ex, yes, typo I fixed. I don't say that computer assistance to reach its true potential. It is, however, the most likely route that is under our physical and intellectual control here in the second decade of the 21st century. It is the purely rational, mechanistic best approach. Whether or not pure rationality and mechanistic existence is philosophically ideal is a totally separate issue. Kurzweil, working under the assumption that is, is working toward accommodating it as the framework for human advancement.

Good response mate, keep it up.

Science.

Welcome to Dec.4, 2012, T-17 days on your Timewave Zero journey to infinite novelty. The path may include militarized robots under autonomous self-aware AI control which destroy entire human populations.

Have a pleasant journey.

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It will probably be funnier than us too.


Meaning In Numbers: Data Is The New Common Language
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There's another transition looming for the role of data in our world: of data into language itself. We can tell stories with data. We can make art (as the recent Art Hack Day, in Boston, did), and we can even demonstrate the true measure of one's language proficiency: We can make jokes. During the same week as DataGotham, my company, Cultivated Wit, hosted the world's first "comedy hack day." Comedians, developers, and technology sponsors joined forces one weekend to pitch, build, then demo 23 comedic apps.

Is Google Terminator's SkyNet?
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1) You really think we will reach a new important point by Dec 21st? Or are you just having fun with the upcoming "doom date"?

2)Are you an Atheist?

3)Your theory regarding "Googlenet" and the ZA was incredible. Should be made into a movie!

They're already running shit.

1) I think SOMETHING changes fundamentally in the human condition. We may not even see it on that date, but something is set in motion that will look, from the other side of history, like the invention of the wheel, or development of the printing press. Or the Black Plague, or the Yucatan meteor.

2) Hell no. Atheism is for conceited, myopic, emotionally-retarded meat sacks.

3) Thanks! I think so too ;-)

Shape-shifing Robot Revealed, No Comment From Skynet
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The "Chembot," whose research is being funded by DARPA, is basically an outer skin, composed of several silicon sacks, which turn rigid or liquidlike, depending on whether they're inflated. That skin surrounds a fluid core, which itself has another inflatable bladder. When portions of the skin and the interior bladder are both inflated, that creates bulges in the outer skin. Using that trick, the Chembot can change its shape and propel itself, through a rolling motion.



Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 01:28 PM

Very interesting. I have always wondered about the singularity, but I still always look at it as being far down the road. But I guess the rate in which our technology increases...it wouldn't be crazy to think it may be close.