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Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a brain is a fractal system of matter that grows and decays in response to external stimuli... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 ...like a plant Until artificial computer systems are made of systems that grow and decay, they cannot achieve true AI. Only simulated AI. Which is not only much less efficient, but behaves differently as well. Correct. That's exactly what genetic algorithms do. They don't have to be implemented in organic matter or hardware. Software works just fine. Tell me what this tastes like... |
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Chris12138 User ID: 28445975 United States 12/04/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect Mr. Carsh. I can't help but suspect you are hoping to become half man half train like your avatar. Is becoming Carshy the Tank Engine your transhumanist fantasy?!?! Spill it! Last Edited by Gator! on 12/04/2012 06:47 PM |
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El Quisqueyano User ID: 29032815 United States 12/04/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence). Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime. Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking. How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed [link to www.theblaze.com] In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful. Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask. When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off". Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured. [link to www.theblaze.com] This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk. Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah... Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 29032815 United States 12/04/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence). Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime. Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking. How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed [link to www.theblaze.com] In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful. Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask. When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off". Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured. [link to www.theblaze.com] This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk. Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah... Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. Completely automated form of control. They would then be able to just sit back and enjoy lavishly. |
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Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all due respect Mr. Carsh. I can't help but suspect you are hoping to become half man half train like your avatar. Quoting: Chris12138 Is becoming Carshy the Tank Engine your transhumanist fantasy?!?! Spill it! He thinks he can he thinks he can.... Zing! 5 star btw OP You guys... Tell me what this tastes like... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28311173 Italy 12/04/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " . . . There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind . . " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28969583 Our mind is unpredictable, has hidden thoughts, unconscious thoughts, coexisting thoughts, a machine is tard, since it won't tell apart a difference by what's evil or good, the beauty of mistakes in the human mind.... to err is human, machines cant do that |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28311173 Italy 12/04/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " . . . There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind . . " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28969583 Our mind is unpredictable, has hidden thoughts, unconscious thoughts, coexisting thoughts, a machine is tard, since it won't tell apart a difference by what's evil or good, the beauty of mistakes in the human mind.... to err is human, machines cant do that..... Sorry your circle jerks is annoying and pointless |
Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. Quoting: El Quisqueyano No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization. Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen. Tell me what this tastes like... |
*Evan* User ID: 28152425 United States 12/04/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. Quoting: El Quisqueyano No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization. Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen. Can you expand on that? |
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truth User ID: 28397909 United States 12/04/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence). Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime. Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking. How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed [link to www.theblaze.com] In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful. Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask. When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off". Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured. [link to www.theblaze.com] This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk. Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah... :terminator: "the size of a single red blood cell". Thatwas what they said about the Atom, when itwas first discovered, that an individual household would beable to run our entire household on a unit the size of a dime . . . then Corporate Society got a hold of it, and now wehave Fukushimas etc. |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 29032815 United States 12/04/2012 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. Quoting: El Quisqueyano No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization. Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen. Can you expand on that? That we could possibly be doomed if this is allowed to happen. We are the lower low tech civilization. |
Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. Quoting: El Quisqueyano No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization. Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen. Can you expand on that? It's an assertion based on military history. The culture with the better military technology always walks all over the culture with the less-developed tech. Cowboys vs Indians. Mogols with stirrups vs. everyone without. Cro-Magnon with bow and sling vs Neanderthal. Tell me what this tastes like... |
Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "the size of a single red blood cell". Quoting: truth 28397909 Thatwas what they said about the Atom, when itwas first discovered, that an individual household would beable to run our entire household on a unit the size of a dime . . . then Corporate Society got a hold of it, and now wehave Fukushimas etc. The actual quote is that nuclear reactors would generate power "too cheap to meter". What's your point? Or do you even have one? Tell me what this tastes like... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28037721 Japan 12/04/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kurzweil is no doubt brilliant, but he's also a nutjob who longs for the "singularity", the point where human consciousness becomes one with computer tech. Guess what, Ray? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Yes, you were right to predict decades ago that eventually a computer would be powerful enough to beat all human chess players, but chess can be boiled down to pure mathematics. There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind. We are eternal, cosmic beings, Ray. Please wake the fuck up and figure that out, before you start trying to eat microchips and shit silicon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28969583 You are so obviously wrong, I don't even know where to start. No, the poster is right. The only way this computer could mildly pose a threat is if it developed consciousness. There is no way to be certain that the technology will be available for this to happen, for the conditions to be present. Even if this machine developed rudimentary consciousness it may only be as 'smart' as an amoeba for the first while, at best. There is no way to tell how similar or different from human consciousness that would be. No matter how complex and capable Skynet may be of predicting what products we feel like buying based on doing a whole buncha math and number-crunching, it cant predict how we will react from moment to moment based on free will and emotion. |
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Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. Quoting: El Quisqueyano No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization. Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen. Can you expand on that? That we could possibly be doomed if this is allowed to happen. We are the lower low tech civilization. Yup. If the synthetic intellect were given access to any external manipulation capability, it could quite conceivably build something we could literally not understand which could result in our instantaneous extermination. Or ascension. Or who knows what. We'd be bugs looking at a Toyota factory. Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 07:25 PM Tell me what this tastes like... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28673702 United States 12/04/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence). Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime. Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking. How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed [link to www.theblaze.com] In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful. Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask. When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off". Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured. [link to www.theblaze.com] This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk. Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah... :terminator: the opposite is happening, google can't even stream a freakin youtube video anymore, microsoft software is such crap it barely runs basic programs. We have reached peak global intelligence, we are now on the downslide. It's all downhill here from now. 100 years from now, we will be living like they did 10,000 years ago. |
*Evan* User ID: 28152425 United States 12/04/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe not 12/21/12 doom but doom none the less if an AI is inserted into the matrix of humanity. Quoting: El Quisqueyano No lower-tech civilization has ever survived contact with a higher-tech civilization. Googlenet will be the highest-tech civilization, all by itself, that this planet has ever seen. Can you expand on that? It's an assertion based on military history. The culture with the better military technology always walks all over the culture with the less-developed tech. Cowboys vs Indians. Mogols with stirrups vs. everyone without. Cro-Magnon with bow and sling vs Neanderthal. Ok, there were a few different ways I thought that anology could go, thanks for clearing up which one you meant. |
Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the opposite is happening, google can't even stream a freakin youtube video anymore, microsoft software is such crap it barely runs basic programs. We have reached peak global intelligence, we are now on the downslide. It's all downhill here from now. 100 years from now, we will be living like they did 10,000 years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28673702 That's a valid counterpoint, actually. Tell me what this tastes like... |
Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kurzweil is no doubt brilliant, but he's also a nutjob who longs for the "singularity", the point where human consciousness becomes one with computer tech. Guess what, Ray? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Yes, you were right to predict decades ago that eventually a computer would be powerful enough to beat all human chess players, but chess can be boiled down to pure mathematics. There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind. We are eternal, cosmic beings, Ray. Please wake the fuck up and figure that out, before you start trying to eat microchips and shit silicon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28969583 You are so obviously wrong, I don't even know where to start. No, the poster is right. The only way this computer could mildly pose a threat is if it developed consciousness. There is no way to be certain that the technology will be available for this to happen, for the conditions to be present. Even if this machine developed rudimentary consciousness it may only be as 'smart' as an amoeba for the first while, at best. There is no way to tell how similar or different from human consciousness that would be. No matter how complex and capable Skynet may be of predicting what products we feel like buying based on doing a whole buncha math and number-crunching, it cant predict how we will react from moment to moment based on free will and emotion. The Japanese history of attempting AI is paved with complete failure. I can understand why. Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 07:29 PM Tell me what this tastes like... |
AddictedToInfo User ID: 26817230 United States 12/04/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to Dec.4, 2012, T-17 days on your Timewave Zero journey to infinite novelty. The path may include militarized robots under autonomous self-aware AI control which destroy entire human populations. Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Have a pleasant journey. Thread: SKYNET WARNING: New video of DARPA Atlas robot for use in the 2013 and 2014 "live disaster-response challenge events". Thread: First Skynet will appear in Russia for the first time- in Russia create a control center of all Russian military robots Then the sun, smartest energy to ever exist, will wipe all that shit out at the perfect time. Just long enough for us to linger a while in it, so we never take TRUE LIFE for granted ever again..... TheOne |
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Chris12138 User ID: 28445975 United States 12/04/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ray Kurzweil is working with Google on the next generation of AI (Artificial Intelligence). Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Google is close, dear friends with the Obama regime. Kurzweil is currently building a software system that will be able to not only think like a human brain, but be able to predict what other brains are thinking. How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed [link to www.theblaze.com] In addition, he said that within 10 years, your "PC" will be the size of a single red blood cell and be 1 BILLION times more powerful. Finally, the AI he's working on will have an interface similar to Apple's Siri, except that you won't need to ask it questions. It will anticipate your needs and questions before you ask. When asked "When does this become Minority Report?", his response was "Everything is a trade-off". Minority Report wasn't a trade-off. It was the world of being arrested and being put in a state of brain death for pre-crime, crimes that had not yet occured. [link to www.theblaze.com] This is Ray Kurzweil saying this. This is not sci-fi, vaporware, or sales talk. Google is about to "wake up", and it will have all your Obamacare medical records, phone records, banking records, emails, OnStar records that are being collected by the NSA and stored in Utah... the opposite is happening, google can't even stream a freakin youtube video anymore, microsoft software is such crap it barely runs basic programs. We have reached peak global intelligence, we are now on the downslide. It's all downhill here from now. 100 years from now, we will be living like they did 10,000 years ago. That actually sounds preferable in my mind lol. |
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