Google is building Skynet (This is the REAL Dec. 21, 2012 Singularity event)

Singularity is a great thing


You're just a paranoid loon!

The Japanese history of attempting AI is paved with complete failure.

I can understand why.

Definitely an intriguing question, and one I've wrestled with. An interesting analogy: I became an audiophile at a young age, and have delved deeply into circuit design of power amplifiers, especially those built around the seemingly-anachronistic vacuum tube, and, more recently, I've written D/A (digital to analog) decoding software. What I've come to learn is that digital systems, while capable of many things and improving materially and at a rapid rate, can never equal their legacy, analog counterparts in the reproduction of music. There's always something missing. That ineffable quality of real, flesh and blood humans playing real instruments in front of you always goes missing when you replace the vacuum tubes with transistors and your source is a CD player or D/A converter at the business end of the most tweaked PC imaginable running the highest-rez digital files available. The best analog turntable systems still show a clean pair of heels to the best digital playback system available. That flies in the face of accepted logic nowadays, and those who find satisfaction in listening to MP3 files will no doubt think the argument I'm making a nonsensical one not worth a second of their time. So be it. In my experience, the best digital systems are merely an approximation of the best analog systems, to say nothing of the original event. Although they continue to improve, using analog devices always gets you closer to the reality you're trying to imitate. Food for thought when we're theorizing about the possibility of digital systems someday replicating human thought patterns.

Im not Japanese you idiot I simply live here.

It would seem the OP is simply not able to cope with people disagreeing intelligently with his ideas. The mark of a childish idiot. OP has created a thread which he thinks is of marked importance and dissident opinions are not welcome in his playpen.

Also, OP, you clearly have no background knowledge and have done no reading on the nature of consciousness as put forth by the minds on the forefront of that area of research. You are simply a sci-fi fan boy waiting for people like Kurzwell to give your life more meaning via the next generation of suppository iPhones.

What OP is talking about with about the immeasurable technological advancements in a decade is a FUCKING fact called Moore's Law. Y'all mothafuckas need to do some reading.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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If you look at the trend it eventually goes upward into infinity, a SINGULARITY.

The only event that can stop this inevitable march toward perfect tyranny/neo-sapiens is a solar EMP of Carrington-level proportions.

Thread: WTF!!! is happening with Sun right now check this image from NASA

You'd be surprised at how wrong you are on all counts, little guy.

:buhbye:

Kurzweil is no doubt brilliant, but he's also a nutjob who longs for the "singularity", the point where human consciousness becomes one with computer tech. Guess what, Ray? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Yes, you were right to predict decades ago that eventually a computer would be powerful enough to beat all human chess players, but chess can be boiled down to pure mathematics. There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind. We are eternal, cosmic beings, Ray. Please wake the fuck up and figure that out, before you start trying to eat microchips and shit silicon.

I wouldn't mind banging Caprica...

you are talking about a standalone computer being smarter than a human. im saying this wont happen unless it develops consciousness. would you care to comment on that? unless the computer becomes a vessel of consciousness (not just self-aware) its just a really, really big calculator.

Kurzweil is no doubt brilliant, but he's also a nutjob who longs for the "singularity", the point where human consciousness becomes one with computer tech. Guess what, Ray? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Yes, you were right to predict decades ago that eventually a computer would be powerful enough to beat all human chess players, but chess can be boiled down to pure mathematics. There is simply no way for any machine to mimic the astonishing intricacy and beautiful nonlinearity of the human mind. We are eternal, cosmic beings, Ray. Please wake the fuck up and figure that out, before you start trying to eat microchips and shit silicon.

Somewhat relevant info here:

[link to www.extremetech.com]

As much as I would like to agree with you it doesn't have to mimic but simply invent a new way that works for itself. Yes it's true that math can be the the decider on games of chess based on probabilities and yes a (binary) computer will never match the intricacy of what we know is human but it does have the potential to discover it's own destiny. A self aware machine based on the laws of man that may decide to create it's own God, rules or Commandments.

A man-made alien civilization at the double-click of a mouse.

We do indeed live in interesting times.

Thanks for that clarification, Skynet.

for all the amazing capabilities (that us plebs couldnt possibly comprehend) machines apparently possess, AI will NEVER beat flesh and bone

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
Charles H. Duell, an official at the US patent office, 1899.

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-..."
Last words of Gen. John Sedgwick, spoken as he looked out over the parapet at enemy lines during the Battle of Spotsylvania in 1864.

"Man will not fly for 50 years."
Wilbur Wright, American aviation pioneer, to brother Orville, after a disappointing flying experiment, 1901 (their first successful flight was in 1903).

This is a good time to get off the grid as much as you can. Return to Mother Earth, and optimize your health only through nature. No matter what that transhumans aspire, they can not beat mother nature and her natural children.

When this system is built


There will be more inventions and ideas that are able to see reality than we can think of.


The challenge is integrating spirituality and technology...


If you are paranoid like the OP is and fight this natural progression, you will be left behind.

I never used the term "stand alone computer". That is your bias showing.

At what level of education would you like me to address you in terms of computer science, AI, and cognitive science?

I'll put the answers in terms familiar to you without having to educate beforehand.

Once you apologize for your rude outburst, that is.