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Well, to me all of this sounds odd. I would not leave a somewhat unknown chick in my flat when I am out. Trust grows over a longer period of time.

Regarding him being online on the computer, from a technical point if view, this is possible. Sometimes bigger downloads need more time, e.g. steam updating games may require several hours. If he forgot to close his browser and did not log out, he may still be listed as online on the dating site. Which platform is it?
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What probably happened was his friends invited him to that party...he met you thought you were cute enough to take (that's a good thing) Was this dude ever married before? Don't be all pushy with the where are you and what are you doings. You guys haven't even had sex yet. You talk about getting warning signs from him. If he is a smart bachelor hes getting some warning signs from you.
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Ever think he is logging into the dating site to see if you have been logging in? Its going to be an issue until you finally just talk to him about it.
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Sounds like casual dating. Nothing has been promised or insinuated so he's just exploring his options.

Hope it works out op!
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Things work a bit different over here.
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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Consider that part of his testing you might involve filming you while he is out.

Just a heads up--not keen on the testing thing.

I would take it slow and not be too available.
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2 weeks? Maybe his wife found out? Chill..
Give it at least 3 weeks or something
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Find another one op. You describe another man than that guy. gl
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enjoy the monents as they happen
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obsessing about the future
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"i am concerned he is still looking for another, better woman than i am".

Of course, shopping around.


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I, too, have this problem. You are just too available and too eager. You are basing everything on his reaction to you. Take a step back, better yet, take 2 or 3...lol and evaluate what you want from this. I'm sure that by the time you are 35, you know what's important to you. Does he work/fit for you? If yes, it can be forever for you both...take the time to get to know each other. Good luck!
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Phoenixe, I smell a rat. I'm sorry, but this guy does not sound to me like he is telling the total truth about some things, or ready to give up bachelorhood, even at his age. And, at this point, he is not seeming very interested to me, except for mixed spurts of little things or signs of caring. I think he is giving the impression of being open, and helpful, but some things just don't add up in his behavior for me, from the beginning. It sounds almost like some sort of emotional game work to me, he acted like he didn't want to be around you, but also told you he had presents...to me, he is not being clear about where you stand in his life. And if it is wearing down your self-esteem in any way, or is making you feel badly, don't stick around just to try and understand what happened and get closure (as tempting as I'm sure that is).

Not all men are like this, just as not all women are. But, some people are. They are just not wanting commitment, and will get involved with someone else who does want it, anyway.

A lot of people have trust issues. You've said that you have them, I'm sure he does, too. He has had a bad relationship before with an unstable ex (he said), so maybe his trust is a little bad right now. But, to me, certain behavior does not sound particularly healthy.

There is paranoia, and then there is intuition. I'm sure you know paranoia is different from intuition, and I do not think you were being paranoid. I think you felt some things were not making sense, and you were being hard on yourself thinking you were overreacting or blowing things out of proportion, but the same questions kept coming back.

I think the questions about what he is doing are coming back for a reason. That you want a stable relationship, and your heart knew you were not going to get it from his direction, as upsetting as it was, even if he was being nice or caring at times.

Not to take away at all the nice things he's done, or the times you've shared. But, it's my feeling that you deserve to have someone who is on the same page as you are, at the same time, from the beginning. He knew what you were about when he got involved with you, if he's not fulfilling it in pretty much any way at this point, my advice would be to move on. It can be hard, I'm sure, if there's no closure, but I really think you'd probably be happier with a person who really wants to go for the relationship thing, and doesn't send mixed signals. It doesn't sound to me like he's willing to tell you he doesn't want to be involved, maybe he does not want to upset you. You will get past this. A better match, more suitable for you and the other party is out there, I'm absolutely certain. Keep hope, keep putting yourself out there, and in the meantime, if you feel you have trust issues, why not use this time to work on that, in the meantime? It will be ok. hf ((((((HUGS!)))))
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not this again...dcomp
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He may have saved your life...

(if you can please put your emotions aside for 2 seconds & focus on the one greatest life enrichment that he granted you)

He told you outside the bar or pub that he sensed smoke from deep within your lungs.

Op, you've been smoking ALL WRONG! Dangerously wrong.

As a smoker, I mean this as no insult. These words are sincere and with caring for your life.

* (you did not state this but) NEVER smoke indoors! Especially your home! Or car.

* Only smoke outdoors!

* never French inhale! Or smoke in thru nose!

* breath deeply fresh air AFTER ever cig. In thru nose, out through mouth.

* OBSERVE: SMOKE STILL COMES OUT!

* you have to purge the smoke!

* purge the smoke!

SMELL CONTROL:

* smoke with wind to your back to prevent from blowing smoke on your clothes!

* pretend smoke coming out of cig is like a leaking pen and your trying not to get it on your clothing, hands or face.

* experiment with diff brands to find a less stinky cig. I (for example) used to love Camels, but they STINK, so experimented and found a brand that I both enjoy & doesn't make me smell like manure!

* if you're right handed, smoke with left (or vice versa) so fewer people will smell your "smoking hand" from everything you touch.


Op you can still smoke AND feel good, look good, get all the men you want & not smell, but you have to be very conscious of the smoke itself.

I'm sorry if this was the wrong time to hear this, but the observation came FROM HIM.

As I smoker, I too have smelled from others what he describes, they ALL are now TERMINAL!

Please take that one observation from him, modify your smoking practices, and please save your life.
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Hi Phoenixe. I just read through your thread, and wanted to send you some positive vibes, and a virtual hug. rose

Dating is not easy, and brings into question so many things about ourselves. It sounds like this guy is trying to have a positive effect on you, even if you might not be a romantic fit. Hopefully as the dust settles, you will gain new insights from these difficult experiences and grow because of them.

I'm a smoker too (trying hard to quit), and single in my 30s, and wanted to let you know that you are not alone, and that I think good things will happen for you. I found myself relating to many of your questions/fears, and recently went through a similar experience with a friend/lover I've known for four years. I believe that it's from the biggest struggles that we learn the most important lessons.

Its beautiful that you shared your story with such an open heart. You seem like a really thoughtful and insightful person with a lot to offer. I'm learning that it's really important that we don't ever lose sight of that, especially when things are difficult and when our value seems to be in question.

Lots of love to you! hf
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from my experience, online dating makes both men and women thinking that there is always someone better out there. there are so many 'available' to look at, if everything isn't perfect from the get go, then it is very easy to keep searching.
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i whished him a good night and quit our conversation, as i don´t want to become target for his projections ;)

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You have good healthy boundaries there, Phoenixe! Good for you.

He's into dark industrial? My ex-husband was, and a lot of people I knew. I liked it too, still do, at times. But, it is heavy stuff. If he's in his 40s and still clubbing...is that common in Germany? Not usually so common here in the US, unless someone is heavy into the scene, from what I've noticed.

Best of wishes and good luck, hope you have a good and pleasant weekend!
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sounds old school but....

in the old days Dad always asked the gentleman caller what his intentions were regarding his daughter


Maybe you should just ask....do you want a serious relationship or is this just a casual thing...then at least you would know
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there are no promises in life so just go along for the ride and see where it goes.
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Great posts, Harvey applause2
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phoenixe

Believe in yourself.

Let me tell you a story. When I was younger and new to a job, the job was to go and repair problems on complex equipment. I am very smart, but didn't know the equipment in that area. A mentor went along and patiently explained how things worked, answered troubleshooting calls, and took care of everything.

He noticed my apprehension, and was kind, considerate, and built me up. He said, "You won't know everything. You can't yet. You're still learning. New equipment will come in. It does all the time. Still things are basically the same. Always show self-confidence. People are counting on you to have the answers. If you don't stand erect and project calmness and intelligence, then they'll immediately doubt your ability and word because YOU don't believe in yourself.

Wise man.

You sound adorable. You also sound like you had an idyllic first date, enjoyed the intensity of that rich experience that some ideal first courtships can be, and then of course it didn't work out.

People don't always connect for a variety of reasons. It might be that they're not ready for lots of reasons, too busy at work or distracted, having financial issues. You don't know all of the things in their lives, just what little they tell you.

When first dating, people market themselves. They tell good stories about their lives that are positive. They dress better. They say clever things.

A lot of people have limits on being able to maintain that intensity. It's not that they lack passion, but maybe they aren't great communicators or they haven't had a lot of experiences.

Sometimes women like older guys because they've had more experiences.

The main thing is trust that you're wonderful. If you believe in yourself, then it's easier to be close and intimate with someone because you feel relaxed, calm, centered, and able to share.

Not everyone can do that. When people do, then there's a wonderful fire that extends from them towards us, and from us towards them. Then passion can happen.

The really great moments are when you're not doing anything at all, but it's wonderful just to be with them.

A lot of dating can be about yet another 1st date that doesn't work out, or you can do a mind-shift and see it as an opportunity for closeness, respect, tenderness, and joy. That will happen rarely, because most of the time people are really distracted and self-absorbed.

Maybe you get this once or twice in your life. You just keep trying until you find them.

There's 6,973,738,433 people looking for that person. Some of them have found them, but most are still being patient and desperately hoping to find them.

He's waiting out there, hoping you're in his country. Chances are very good with 7 billion souls that someone is a good match.

Don't ever put yourself down. It's not useful. Build yourself up by seeing that there's a bright spirit in you. Always try to improve yourself, just in case that stranger in the line ahead of you or behind you is the One. They truly might be.

Most guys want sweetness, sincerity, eye contact, genuineness, respect. If your body is attractive in some way, and you have those five things with them, then most guys will be really really joyful.

What happens is people forget that joy and get bored and distracted by the world. You probably do too.

Don't get distracted. Keep looking.

Taking it slow and cuddling for three dates is a good thing. I know this guy didn't seem that sexual with you. Sometimes the chemistry is wrong even if everything else is perfect.

I'm very very affectionate, and I've never dated anyone for even less than one date and not wanted to be cuddling and make love to them, but of course restrained from doing so because of respect or because not wanting to rush things sometime. But still, you know when someone is really turned on. If they aren't, then personally I wouldn't go out again, because there isn't a spark.

Keep looking and trust that it will happen, but chances are you have to do positive things to make it happen.

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Music and clubbing was fun, I used to really enjoy dancing, (still do); but for now, my PlastikWrap and Dane dresses and New Rock boots are packed away nicely. :-) I would bring them out again for a good cause, but for now, they're in storage. I guess time will tell. :-)

I'm glad you shared some of what you've been feeling with your friend, always good to get an outside perspective!

Ah, cool you like PP, too! Thank you so much for the music station link! Yes, I will definitely use while house cleaning, lol, I love to listen to music while doing that. Have a great evening hf
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phoenixe, you're so pretty. You have lovely cheekbones.
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In response to your original post, I can offer the following advice.

Chill out.

If neither of you has breached the topic of only dating each other, then he has done nothing wrong by continuing to go on that dating web site. It is also nothing against you, either.

If you want to see him, and only him, and for him to only see you, let him know. But do it in a way where you are asking if it is something he'd be comfortable with, as well. It could be that he is not looking for something terribly serious, and wants to become friends first before moving on.

At his age, he may have been down this road before. Perhaps he has been married before, or has just been in a long term committed relationship. I can tell you that I have changed my philosophy on dating based upon my past mistakes, and I'm sure he has as well.

He sounds like a good guy, and you need to not ruin it by appearing stalker-ish. Ask him his intentions, if you wish, and chose to believe him or not. But if you don't believe him, it isn't a good idea to continue the relationship anyway.
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I'm glad you've moved on. Now...don't weaken and go back. You really aren't going back, because it never got that far.

Keep it light and breezey. It takes a long time to establish trust and for a relationship to unfold. I think you want something magical to happen overnight and jump right from dating into a steady realtionship that's safe. That doesn't happen for awhile, maybe months down the road.

It's hard to believe, but the more self-confident and not inclined to settle down, the more the guy wants to connect with you. It's the allure of the pursuit. You're being chased. You should run ...just out of his reach. That is if you want to enhance his desire for you. You do want that right? Otherwise if he knows that you're totally into him, then all humans take that as a certainty and so take the Other for granted.

There is nothing more exciting than chasing a woman for a guy and then finally catching her.

This is not playing games. It's allowing him to "win" you. I hope that makes sense. It's a male thing. Some animal instinct inside of us. In a way, it's a competition.

Slowly taking your time and enjoying each other's company and connecting and building an intimacy, that all is very worthwhile, but if you constantly are hovering in his periphery, like a moth around his flame, then any guy is going to feel "watched". If you're always around, then it's like you're waiting for him. It means you don't have a life outside of being with him. It makes you seem needy.

If you let it happen slowly, and it needs to for guys because we process our feelings very s l o w l y, and have our doubts, then it will come to us that we're falling in love. Some dopes never figure it out, but most of us do.
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you sound like a great girl but you're looking at things the wrong way. no one is perfect no matter how well you think they fit with you. the most important thing is to feel right about yourself. you are not ready for someone yet. you need to work on yourself and accept yourself and your imperfections. just from reading your posts, you sounds like a great person, and with a little more confidence you will find happiness.

so forget this guy for now. if he wants to spend time with you then ok but the focus should be on you. love youself and you will find love with another, just be patient!
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For a guy not to push for sex--I'm thinking there might be a problem. It is usually the woman who has to put the brakes on sex till she is comfortable the relationship is committed.

Possibly he has a "performance issue", or is gay.
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LOL...10 years isn't nothing you nut job.

Just reading your post is a roadmap to the typical female psychopathic insanity. She puts the breaks on sex holding it hostage until she gets what she wants, you call it "commitment". I call it getting your hooks sunk in real deep.

Then the poor slob better perform and knock the bottom out of that vagina. First you are a goody two shoes which is nothing more than a front and then you turn into a demanding self-centered/self-serving slut. and I'm sure with time that will turn out to be just a front also as you get tired of your boy toy and have to find a new one.




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You are thinking to much …… stop it!..... enjoy life
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This^ Cant emphasize this enough. Sadly i need to do the same.
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Yea fuck it you're a panda
Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
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Over the years I've had many friends who were women (and most were true Ladies) who would cry on my shoulder and recount their problems dating and being in a relationship. I most often told them these words to try to convince them of four aspects of dating to help them cope better and be happier. Almost always they listened and then told me later that they felt better when they followed my advice. Often they ended up flirting with ME, but that's another story.

Self-worth
First, you are a valuable person. Even if you don't believe that its true, it is a fact. There are aspects of each person that offer a benefit to the community. Each person has some gift or gifts.

All people are beautiful. We are beautiful regardless of body shape, lack of perfect proportions, ideal facial symmetry, lack of self-esteem, lack of perfect communication skills, and more.

We think that beautiful looks like those ideal people that society decides are beautiful. That's actually a fallacy. What happens is marketing people in order to sell products find models who possess three qualities 1)certain ideal proportions in face (symmetry) 2)body (golden ratio) and 3) charisma. This is the study of aesthetics in Art. All Art is about evaluating aspects of those two things.
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The number of those people is very low. They are rare. If the throng of women expect that they must look like those women in order to be happy, or to attract another to be happy (romance), or to look that way to maintain a relationship (love and marriage), then by logic they will never feel valued, adored, respected, and happy. So they have low self-worth.

In fact, if you read then you'll discover that most of the women with those qualities actually have the same difficulties in self-worth, romance, love, and marriage. This proves that it isn't true.

Women are not works of Art. They are living dynamic beings not sterile flat paintings or sculptures of Art. Because some guys, a lot really, think that women are works of Art, not human beings then it's difficult to find a good relationship.

Self-worth is about belief. Think about that logically. It is self-evident as truth. You believe that you have worth, and so you feel affirmed. When you believe in yourself, then you change your posture, you have more self-confidence, you see that there are attractive things about yourself, that you have qualities in your personality that make you a treasure to someone.

First you have self-worth and when it grows you have self-confidence.

You also see that there are things that are not perfect. Since the definition of perfection is NEVER ATTAINABLE, then being imperfect beings and noticing them is not about achieving perfection. It's about repairing behavior which in a relationship might cause barriers or impediments to intimacy. It's about doing regular things to improve aspects which CAN BE improved (possible).

Improvement
Because a lot of improvement is about discipline, then most people say, “Screw it. Why bother?” You improve yourself, not because you want to attract them. You do it to make yourself have more self-worth.

Rather than improving aspects, people do foolish things to make themselves more like works of Art: plastic surgery, collagen injections, perfect hair styles, spending lots and lots of money on the endless flow of new makeup (to cover up their face), expensive perfume, lots and lots of lotion, expensive clothing. Note that all of these are sold by those models who already have ideal features and that marketing people attempt to convince you that if you bought their products you would look like them, when actually they were born that way. Funny, yes?

In reality, improving yourself is about putting healthy food in your body. Drinking pure water. Exercising, fresh air, perhaps using some light jojoba oil on your skin and hair, and learning how to communicate and flirt.

Awareness
When we are aware, then we notice change. Most people have grown dull and numb. Lively people are aware of their surroundings, people, and themselves. When you're aware that you're doing things that harm yourself, other people, or your surroundings then a wise person improves their situation. Aware people are sensitive. Aware people who improve themselves are happier.

A lot of guys are also dimly aware. They may only be aware of themselves (selfish). Some women are also selfish. Some people are only aware of things that hurt their feelings and so feel sorry when they are aware of them.

The times you most feel connected with someone is when both of you are aware. When both are aware and sensitive then intimacy happens. They want to keep the fire of romance going, so they do behavior (communication and flirting) to make the Other aware of the intensity of their awareness of them.

When someone is flirting with another, and saying their heart(honest communication), and have high self-worth, then the Other will notice their beauty and feel attraction for them. This is what women want, for that is romance and love.

When either is aware (sensitive) that change is happening and attraction is being reduced, then you immediate do things to improve your relationship or yourself. A lot of times we notice the flaws in the Other but not the fact that we stopped doing the things which attracted them to Us.

When we realize we made a mistake and entered into a relationship with someone who is not aware, most of the time, we flee. That's a mistake. A lot of people grow dull because of outside forces, so if we love them, we try to help them become more aware.

However if we become aware that they are toxic people who lied about themselves, then you should flee.

Communication and flirting
Communication is about removing the barriers that exist because the Other can't read our mind. It's scary to let someone know what we're thinking, and we think some ugly stuff. We also think false things. Unless we tell people what we're thinking, they won't know. Most people spend no time in awareness and even if they did and were supremely sensitive, they can't read your mind.

It's not that men are obtuse. It's not necessarily that we are insensitive (unaware). It might be that we've become numb. It may be that we're distracted. It could be that we think, “Men don't share their inner feelings for that shows weakness.”

Gentle whispers of sincere communication spoken in tenderness almost always are ways to increase intimacy, attraction, and so the Other will usually think we are more beautiful.

If you say ugly false things, then you immediately look less beautiful. If you become aware of impediments to a relationship, then gently whisper, get very close, touch their face and hands, and ask them what THEY think.

Don't assume your thoughts are true. Maybe you have lost self-worth and feel less beautiful and less than ideal and so less attractive and this is called self-sabotage. You destroy yourself and yourself relationships because you feel unworthy to have happiness.

Flirting is special communication. It is brave. It's when we communicate directly that the Other is beautiful. It's about giving the Other pleasure. It puts fuel on their fire for Us. It makes them more aware of our beauty.

When a woman directly and bravely flirts with a man, then he immediately thinks she is 10 times more beautiful and feels 10 times more attracted. Then he feels respected which is the primary aspect of core male identity. Every woman has that Power, it's only that you're too much of a coward to attempt it. The brave ones who get over their irrational fear of looking silly or rejected will gain EVERYTHING.

Because men also have instincts like any animal, then they are naturally attracted to large breast size. It has to do with an appearance (a false one) of potential child bearing. Probably so do full lips for they recall the shape of the vagina. So does the shape of a women's derriere. Rather than get too focused on those aspects, as most women do, spend time flirting for that is the most powerful weapon in your arsenal.

A lot of people once they are in a relationship of a year or so begin to communicate and flirt less and less. They stop improving themselves, for they caught the Other. Then they wonder, “Why isn't He/She attracted to me?”

Almost every aspect of romance is about the principles above.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/13/2013 07:14 PM
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Re: dating&romance advice - see Don´tBeAfraid´s tips/explanations - edited to have only the useful information for ya!
If you want an observation here - then here goes. Boy are you obsessed. Not to mention not confident in yourself. This is a combination which makes for some stressful dates.

You see, whether he is testing the waters here with you, he obviously likes you - but he's geting some strong signs that you are not a good match and maybe even crazy.

Sure, you're very pretty - and starting this thread, I thought I'd even want to date you - but the more I read, the more I realized that you're just another crazy woman.

Someone else mentioned it too - you are logged into the dating site, but are wondering why he is also logged in. That's nutters

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