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a strange thing happened to me right now involving jehovah's witnesses...

 
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You are right, OP.

This is exactly how it starts. And similarly in our country they'll be no complaining when the conservatives and the christians are "relocated to live in containers."

And to your other point, the bible says * "...But God chose what is nonsense in the world to make the wise feel ashamed. God chose what is weak in the world to make the strong feel ashamed." God's going to use the weak, the overlooked and the nobodies to bring His message of love and salvation not the theological superstars the world looks up to.

*1cor1:7
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OP, your friends were ignoring you because you sound crazy and awkward...
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Cool story.
Now concerning the J.W.'s..Something has always confounded me and that is, if they believe that only 144k will be saved , then why do they go around and recruit ?


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They only believe a certain number go to heaven to reign as kings and priests over the earth with Jesus and the rest of humanity will remain/be resurrected back to a paradise earth to learn and to reach perfection. This will include JW's and non JW's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


Lets be honest here, shall we? You know perfectly well, assuming you are a JW, that ANYONE who is not a JW before Armageddon starts will die. ONLY JW will survive the big A.

Humans = perfection? Show me in the Bible where god created humans to be perfect? Also, resurrection would be a clone, so all those people will be clone's - something we can do today.
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we are out of time, no time to start out following a new religion. It is done!
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No matter whats going on in Holland, or what Hitler did to them, or what they seem to know about world events, the JW"s and the Watchtower Society is still a non biblical, satanic cult. They, along with the Mormon's, SDA's, and many charismatic groups spew false doctrines to deceive the hearts of the simple. Of course the MOTHER of all cults is the Roman Catholic system.

ALL of these groups teach works are necessary for salvation and that a believer can lose his salvation. None of them believes that Jesus Christ's perfect life and perfect sacrifice on the cross is all that is necessary to secure eternal life for any sinner who will receive it by grace alone through faith alone. It's all just Cainite, Babylonian, satanic, religious trash.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of God, not of works, lest any man should boast"

The Lord Jesus Christ said...

"He that believeth on ME hath everlasting life"

Have a nice day!
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He also commanded them to go preach the "Good news of the Kingdom".....

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Several people have said that JW's have come to their door when they were in distress...so the evidence suggests God is using them for his work.

Most agree they are nice people and like to talk to them and have learned a lot about the Bible from them...again sounds like God is using them to teach about him.

So if you were God who would you use to teach about you? Any good leader knows you need a plan and you need an organization to spread a message to masses amount of people in a short amount of time. It will take money, it isn't free. And you will have to EDUCATE the people teaching about God.

Who is willing to do this? Which religion would be willing to do this, God asks? Who has made themselves available?

To the angry ANTI-JW poster, what have you done to preach to masses of people about God? When has someone said of you, he was there to comfort me in my time of need.

The evidence speaks for itself!
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A Jehovah's Witness knocking on doors on a day other than Saturday? It's the end times!!!
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Ironically, Saturday is the Sabbath.
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Yes! They Love bomb you at first to get members into the cult for money raising. They are decked out in ricjhes more than you know.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:15

If you make one mistake after you are baptized , the can disfellowship you and tell all your friens and family to shun you, not even help or talk to you.
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We were just named Murder Capital of the country AGAIN.
Shipping out the sludge to live elsewhere doesn't sound like such a bad idea right about now.
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Where is "we"? Toronto?????
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The Peg.
"The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites

Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river.
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Compass sea and land - A proverbial expression, similar to ours, You leave no stone unturned; intimating that they did all in their power to gain converts, not to God, but to their sect. These we may suppose were principally sought for among the Gentiles, for the bulk of the Jewish nation was already on the side of the Pharisees.

if you are shy and cannot talk at doors, you are shunned, and said to given token service.
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Compass sea and land - A proverbial expression, similar to ours, You leave no stone unturned; intimating that they did all in their power to gain converts, not to God, but to their sect. These we may suppose were principally sought for among the Gentiles, for the bulk of the Jewish nation was already on the side of the Pharisees.

if you are shy and cannot talk at doors, you are shunned, and said to given token service.
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wrong
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Yes! They Love bomb you at first to get members into the cult for money raising. They are decked out in ricjhes more than you know.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:15

If you make one mistake after you are baptized , the can disfellowship you and tell all your friens and family to shun you, not even help or talk to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Speaking out of fear of what you do not know,or completely understand, does not make you an expert. You have a very confused perception. Do you think God would use an organization that had no funds, no means of education, and no disipline? Yes, you can be disfellowshipped if you unrepentantly practice things condemned in the Bible. Those things God hates are all laid out there for you to read. If you disagree, that is your god-given right of free will.....
"Life is tough, it's tougher if you are stupid." - John Wayne

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OP, your friends were ignoring you because you sound crazy and awkward...
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i have no problems with being crazy or awkward if pointing out that another holocaust is happening again before our very eyes.

call me crazy and awkward and ignore it all you like.

that's what happened last time. i guess this time won't be much different except this time i'm going to speak up a little louder.
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To hell with their semi-Arian heresy. You don't know their motives. You could be a notch in their stick so don't be naive. Jehovah is gonna ask a lot from you when you join and it will probably be in the form of labor.
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We were just named Murder Capital of the country AGAIN.
Shipping out the sludge to live elsewhere doesn't sound like such a bad idea right about now.
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Injuns and immigants.
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We were just named Murder Capital of the country AGAIN.
Shipping out the sludge to live elsewhere doesn't sound like such a bad idea right about now.
 Quoting: Madame X


Where is "we"? Toronto?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27531391


Winterpig.
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JWs were in the nazi cleansing of their population because they were race traitors. They were given a choice. Recant or die.

The smart ones recanted.
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"mary had a little lamb"

wind blows dust,
in your eyes,
can't you see the lies
told to cover the lust

for killing the old;
young people crushed
by the unfitting mold,
war machine fed

on fears and flesh;
all focusing on
jehovah's witness,
the bride awakens,

a church in hiding;
father and son,
what's missing; a mother,
the cradle of life;

her daughter he said,
our hope in the night;
who gracefully
will lead the flight.

hf
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12/04/2012 09:14 PM

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"mary had a little lamb"

wind blows dust,
in your eyes,
can't you see the lies
told to cover the lust

for killing the old;
young people crushed
by the unfitting mold,
war machine fed

on fears and flesh;
all focusing on
jehovah's witness,
the bride awakens,

a church in hiding;
father and son,
what's missing; a mother,
the cradle of life;

her daughter he said,
our hope in the night;
who gracefully
will lead the flight.

hf
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War is war.
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whoever will listen and take ACTION i will work with. if it's jehovah's witnesses then SO BE IT. i am not picky.


You're not picky... How nice of you.
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whoever will listen and take ACTION i will work with. if it's jehovah's witnesses then SO BE IT. i am not picky.


You're not picky... How nice of you.
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touche!
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Cool story.
Now concerning the J.W.'s..Something has always confounded me and that is, if they believe that only 144k will be saved , then why do they go around and recruit ?


scratching
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 399597


They only believe a certain number go to heaven to reign as kings and priests over the earth with Jesus and the rest of humanity will remain/be resurrected back to a paradise earth to learn and to reach perfection. This will include JW's and non JW's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


Lets be honest here, shall we? You know perfectly well, assuming you are a JW, that ANYONE who is not a JW before Armageddon starts will die. ONLY JW will survive the big A.

Humans = perfection? Show me in the Bible where god created humans to be perfect? Also, resurrection would be a clone, so all those people will be clone's - something we can do today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


No human knows exactly who survive Armageddon but being on God's and Jesus' side is a sure way to help make it through. And everyone who has died BEFORE Armageddon gets a resurrection.

And when God creates he creates perfectly. The angels are perfect except the ones that chose to disobey God. And of course Adam and Eve were perfect/sinless as well before they disobeyed God. Before sinning they wouldn't die/grow old/sick. Afterward they died in one day or 1000 years to God since one day to us is a thousand to God. Death was not normal and was a curse. Why tell them they would die if death was the normal for them? It wasn't.

So if Adam had not disobeyed God there would have been no sin in the world:

"Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned"--Romans 5:12

But you should know this since you said you were a JW.
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JWs were in the nazi cleansing of their population because they were race traitors. They were given a choice. Recant or die.

The smart ones recanted.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


No smart ones were ever on Hitler's side.
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Yes! They Love bomb you at first to get members into the cult for money raising. They are decked out in ricjhes more than you know.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:15

If you make one mistake after you are baptized , the can disfellowship you and tell all your friens and family to shun you, not even help or talk to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Speaking out of fear of what you do not know,or completely understand, does not make you an expert. You have a very confused perception. Do you think God would use an organization that had no funds, no means of education, and no disipline? Yes, you can be disfellowshipped if you unrepentantly practice things condemned in the Bible. Those things God hates are all laid out there for you to read. If you disagree, that is your god-given right of free will.....
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I ought to know. Pedophile paradise.Pedophiles join them and they know they are, but it remains hidden from members. I was dragged there my whole life, and saw it all.
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JWs were in the nazi cleansing of their population because they were race traitors. They were given a choice. Recant or die.

The smart ones recanted.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


Thank You for showing off your ignorance and hatred, but then, people with your attitude killed Jesus.
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you think they can save you?
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Yes! They Love bomb you at first to get members into the cult for money raising. They are decked out in ricjhes more than you know.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:15

If you make one mistake after you are baptized , the can disfellowship you and tell all your friens and family to shun you, not even help or talk to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Speaking out of fear of what you do not know,or completely understand, does not make you an expert. You have a very confused perception. Do you think God would use an organization that had no funds, no means of education, and no disipline? Yes, you can be disfellowshipped if you unrepentantly practice things condemned in the Bible. Those things God hates are all laid out there for you to read. If you disagree, that is your god-given right of free will.....
 Quoting: Beachbums


I ought to know. Pedophile paradise.Pedophiles join them and they know they are, but it remains hidden from members. I was dragged there my whole life, and saw it all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Pedos are in every walk of life, and religion, they ARE NOT ALLOWED to practice their perversions among JW's. I am sorry it happened to you, it will be remedied in time, as will everything else sick and twisted in this world.
"Life is tough, it's tougher if you are stupid." - John Wayne

I can write AND read cursive.
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Several people have said that JW's have come to their door when they were in distress...so the evidence suggests God is using them for his work.

Most agree they are nice people and like to talk to them and have learned a lot about the Bible from them...again sounds like God is using them to teach about him.

So if you were God who would you use to teach about you? Any good leader knows you need a plan and you need an organization to spread a message to masses amount of people in a short amount of time. It will take money, it isn't free. And you will have to EDUCATE the people teaching about God.

Who is willing to do this? Which religion would be willing to do this, God asks? Who has made themselves available?

To the angry ANTI-JW poster, what have you done to preach to masses of people about God? When has someone said of you, he was there to comfort me in my time of need.

The evidence speaks for itself!
 Quoting: hmmm 27277816


I think so as well.

And God says this about the people He picks to spread His word:

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 1 Corinthians 1:27

Time and time again there are people who make fun of them because they are ordinary people spreading the Bible's message going door to door. Many are not college educated and have not gone to a well known seminary school but they know the Bible better than anyone. They can look foolish and weak up against the world's powerful religions/leaders but they are strong and keep fighting for truth. But they will all say they don't do this on their own but with the help of God's Holy Spirit. I believe God is using these so called foolish/weak people to spread His word.
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the ones who look even more foolish are those they kick out of their religion and prevent family from talking to them. They are the lowly in God's eyes, not those who think they know all the truth in this world, which is haughty and egotistical.

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