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You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason

 
SirKnighte
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You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Atleast according to the Grand Master of the State of Florida.
GM of Florida Expels Wiccans, Gnostics and Others
In a surprising and unprecedented move, the Most Worshipful Grand Master of Masons of the State of Florida, Jorge L. Aladro has effectively expelled from the Craft all Pagans, Wiccans, Gnostics, Agnostics and members of other non-Christian or pre-Christian religious belief systems. In his Ruling and Decision No. 3, dated November 26, 2012, the Grand Master issued an ultimatum to any member of the aforementioned groups: Resign from the Craft, or face trial and expulsion from Florida Freemasonry.

to read the actual edict sent out by the Grand Master, click below
[link to www.glflamason.org]

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So for you experts at masonry that are not actual masons, how does this go against your theory of satanism in the craft. Do you think its just to save face, a way to sorta do damage control.

Apparently in order to be a mason, one must simply beleive in a supreme being. It does not specify which supreme being, so logically a satanist could possibly even be a mason.

Does this give one man too much power over the craft. Atleast for that state?
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
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Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29003519


I knew a Muslim Freemason. He was Egyptian and very openly Muslim.
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
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Not true, there are plenty of FreeMason who are Muslim, there are even many Muslim Knight Templars
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12/04/2012 07:26 PM
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
All the fake satanic religions can become masons except Christian Catholics.
Catholics are not allowed to become masons.
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12/04/2012 07:37 PM

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All the fake satanic religions can become masons except Christian Catholics.
Catholics are not allowed to become masons.
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And there you have it....

damned
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12/04/2012 07:43 PM
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So for you experts at masonry that are not actual masons, how does this go against your theory of satanism in the craft. Do you think its just to save face, a way to sorta do damage control.
 Quoting: SirKnighte


Well what if Christianity is a satanic cult?
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12/04/2012 07:50 PM
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Can a Muslim be a Freemason?
[link to www.masonsmart.com]

Freemasonry is Jewish
[link to www.youtube.com]

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So for you experts at masonry that are not actual masons, how does this go against your theory of satanism in the craft. Do you think its just to save face, a way to sorta do damage control.
 Quoting: SirKnighte


Well what if Christianity is a satanic cult?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28673702


That is entirely plausible
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Can a Muslim be a Freemason?
[link to www.masonsmart.com]

Freemasonry is Jewish
[link to www.youtube.com]

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free Masonry does have a lot of Jewish influence. Alot form the Qabala

But another side of it is even more ancient than that
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bullshit...freemasons were tortured by christians.
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bullshit...freemasons were tortured by christians.
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So were other Christians.

So what's your point.
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bullshit...freemasons were tortured by christians.
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Free Masons where not tortured by Christians. Knights Templar where persecuted by the Pope
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
the Most Worshipful Grand Master of Masons
 Quoting: SirKnighte

Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. (Matt. 23:10)

Ye shall know them by their fruits (Matt. 7:16)
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29003519


I am a Freemason. In Florida. We just did an EA Degree about a month ago. The Candidate was a student at the local university, very nice, polite kid. He was Muslim.
We replaced the Bible on the Altar with his Qur'an. So that he could swear his obligation on the book of his faith.
I thought it was a very nice and noble gesture.

I went to a MM Degree over the summer at a neighbor Lodge. They were raising 3 Master Masons at once. Two were young Black Men, One was tattoo'd head to toe, and his name was Mohammed. I don't know if he was Muslim, but he swore his obligation on the Holy Bible with the others.

Things are a changing in the Craft. When I was raised in 98 there were no Black regular Masons. I am very glad to see diversity filling our ranks.
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All the fake satanic religions can become masons except Christian Catholics.
Catholics are not allowed to become masons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29097260


This is a Catholic rule, not a Masonic rule. There are plenty of Catholic Masons. I presume they don't advertise this at the church though.
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29003519


I am a Freemason. In Florida. We just did an EA Degree about a month ago. The Candidate was a student at the local university, very nice, polite kid. He was Muslim.
We replaced the Bible on the Altar with his Qur'an. So that he could swear his obligation on the book of his faith.
I thought it was a very nice and noble gesture.

I went to a MM Degree over the summer at a neighbor Lodge. They were raising 3 Master Masons at once. Two were young Black Men, One was tattoo'd head to toe, and his name was Mohammed. I don't know if he was Muslim, but he swore his obligation on the Holy Bible with the others.

Things are a changing in the Craft. When I was raised in 98 there were no Black regular Masons. I am very glad to see diversity filling our ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2021744


Recently initiated a muslim as well. Even when he "first invoked the aide of his diety" He said a common islamic prayer they are taught in arabic. Thought that was pretty cool.
There are now plenty of black masons in Texas in the predominately white Grand Lodge. But alot of other coutries are tending to shy away from american free masonry because there is still plenty of racial division.
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29003519


I am a Freemason. In Florida. We just did an EA Degree about a month ago. The Candidate was a student at the local university, very nice, polite kid. He was Muslim.
We replaced the Bible on the Altar with his Qur'an. So that he could swear his obligation on the book of his faith.
I thought it was a very nice and noble gesture.

I went to a MM Degree over the summer at a neighbor Lodge. They were raising 3 Master Masons at once. Two were young Black Men, One was tattoo'd head to toe, and his name was Mohammed. I don't know if he was Muslim, but he swore his obligation on the Holy Bible with the others.

Things are a changing in the Craft. When I was raised in 98 there were no Black regular Masons. I am very glad to see diversity filling our ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2021744


Recently initiated a muslim as well. Even when he "first invoked the aide of his diety" He said a common islamic prayer they are taught in arabic. Thought that was pretty cool.
There are now plenty of black masons in Texas in the predominately white Grand Lodge. But alot of other coutries are tending to shy away from american free masonry because there is still plenty of racial division.
 Quoting: SirKnighte


Like I said, I am in FL. I am not so sure how I feel about this communication from the Grand Master of FL...
Did you guys get a communication from your GL a few months back about not recognizing French Lodges anymore because they are allowing Women?
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Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29003519


I am a Freemason. In Florida. We just did an EA Degree about a month ago. The Candidate was a student at the local university, very nice, polite kid. He was Muslim.
We replaced the Bible on the Altar with his Qur'an. So that he could swear his obligation on the book of his faith.
I thought it was a very nice and noble gesture.

I went to a MM Degree over the summer at a neighbor Lodge. They were raising 3 Master Masons at once. Two were young Black Men, One was tattoo'd head to toe, and his name was Mohammed. I don't know if he was Muslim, but he swore his obligation on the Holy Bible with the others.

Things are a changing in the Craft. When I was raised in 98 there were no Black regular Masons. I am very glad to see diversity filling our ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2021744


Recently initiated a muslim as well. Even when he "first invoked the aide of his diety" He said a common islamic prayer they are taught in arabic. Thought that was pretty cool.
There are now plenty of black masons in Texas in the predominately white Grand Lodge. But alot of other coutries are tending to shy away from american free masonry because there is still plenty of racial division.
 Quoting: SirKnighte


Like I said, I am in FL. I am not so sure how I feel about this communication from the Grand Master of FL...
Did you guys get a communication from your GL a few months back about not recognizing French Lodges anymore because they are allowing Women?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2021744



It was brought up before. That has been an ongoing issue for a while. It was never put out exactly whether recognition is with drawn or not. But my GL in not under any US Grand Lodge. So we dont typically go by most ancient landmarks suggested by Mackey.
However, it is typically known that a woman cannot be a mason. However the UGLE has said that Co-Masonry is "regular" in its acts just not "recognized"
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
More drama to this story here

[link to www.freemasoninformation.com]

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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
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Not true, there are plenty of FreeMason who are Muslim, there are even many Muslim Knight Templars
 Quoting: SirKnighte


Not true Sir Knight, to become a Mason Templar you must profess your belief in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and being a Muslim they cannot do this.
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I am a Freemason. In Florida. We just did an EA Degree about a month ago. The Candidate was a student at the local university, very nice, polite kid. He was Muslim.
We replaced the Bible on the Altar with his Qur'an. So that he could swear his obligation on the book of his faith.
I thought it was a very nice and noble gesture.

I went to a MM Degree over the summer at a neighbor Lodge. They were raising 3 Master Masons at once. Two were young Black Men, One was tattoo'd head to toe, and his name was Mohammed. I don't know if he was Muslim, but he swore his obligation on the Holy Bible with the others.

Things are a changing in the Craft. When I was raised in 98 there were no Black regular Masons. I am very glad to see diversity filling our ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2021744


Recently initiated a muslim as well. Even when he "first invoked the aide of his diety" He said a common islamic prayer they are taught in arabic. Thought that was pretty cool.
There are now plenty of black masons in Texas in the predominately white Grand Lodge. But alot of other coutries are tending to shy away from american free masonry because there is still plenty of racial division.
 Quoting: SirKnighte


Like I said, I am in FL. I am not so sure how I feel about this communication from the Grand Master of FL...
Did you guys get a communication from your GL a few months back about not recognizing French Lodges anymore because they are allowing Women?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2021744



It was brought up before. That has been an ongoing issue for a while. It was never put out exactly whether recognition is with drawn or not. But my GL in not under any US Grand Lodge. So we dont typically go by most ancient landmarks suggested by Mackey.
However, it is typically known that a woman cannot be a mason. However the UGLE has said that Co-Masonry is "regular" in its acts just not "recognized"
 Quoting: SirKnighte


The Washington DC lodge is also being outcast for their acceptance of women as MM's. Germany's GL is under investigation for its non-acceptance of Jews, and the list goes on.
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
to become a freemason you must be a free man and not bonded,


this is a bit difficult to fulfill if you are a slave of Christ as he bought our bondage for a heavy price
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You simply have to believe in a supreme being.
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this..
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Firstly, you are either of a Christian faith or other, for their is nothing similar!

Secondly, it is because the other religions irrelevant or an easy pie, for they have already rejected the only Lord God, and said in their hearts things like, "there are many gods", there is only emptiness, and no god, etc.
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Not at all true. Maybe that order but shriners are the muslim order of the freemasons
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actually no, you just have to believe in a god and they wont ask you who or what that god is so technically even if you thought nature was god you could join
How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. She stands there with the bulb in the socket and waits for the world to revolve around her.
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Freemasons will Accept anyone who is NOT an Atheist or a Muslim.

I have known Many Freemasons.
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Not true, there are plenty of FreeMason who are Muslim, there are even many Muslim Knight Templars
 Quoting: SirKnighte


Not true Sir Knight, to become a Mason Templar you must profess your belief in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and being a Muslim they cannot do this.
 Quoting: Highlander_


No.. freemasons is not a christian thing..
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Re: You MUST be a Christian or other similar religion to be a Free-Mason
Many O.T.O members are Freemasons here.
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