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“I bring you good news that will bring great joy to all people. 11 The Savior—yes, the Messiah, the Lord—has been born today in Bethlehem, the city of David! 12 And you will recognize him by this sign: You will find a baby wrapped snugly in strips of cloth, lying in a manger.”

13 Suddenly, the angel was joined by a vast host of others—the armies of heaven—praising God and saying,

14 “Glory to God in highest heaven,
and peace on earth to those with whom God is pleased.”


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vul·ner·a·ble [vuhl-ner-uh-buh]
adjective
1. capable of or susceptible to being wounded or hurt, as by a weapon: a vulnerable part of the body.
2. open to moral attack, criticism, temptation, etc.: an argument vulnerable to refutation; He is vulnerable to bribery.
3. (of a place) open to assault; difficult to defend: a vulnerable bridge.


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^^^^ I'll have to check it later...

almost done for today!




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“Who’s Lying in the Manger” – by David Cornfield

He who is the Almighty became a suckling baby.

He who is all wise took on the dumbness of a newborn.

He whom the heavens cannot contain was enclosed in a woman’s womb.

He before whom the seraphim continually cry “Holy, Holy, Holy” was born of a sinner into a world under the dominion of sin.

He who is unchanging went through nine months of contrast, of constant change, to enter a world of change.

He who is all-knowing had to communicate through baby cries.

He who is infinite became a microscopic cell.

He who is love was born outside a hotel because no one had room for his laboring mother.

He who is the creator became a creature.

He who has always been spirit took on the awkwardness of a human body.

He who is Eternal allowed himself to be bound by time.

He who is light was entombed for nine months in warm blackness.

He who is just was accused of being an illegitimate child.

He who is sovereign God became dependent on a human man and woman for his food and clothing.

He who is clothed with majesty was born in a cattle trough.

He who alone is self-sufficient had to be cleaned and nursed.

He who is life was born with a death warrant around his neck.

Can there be a greater mystery?

Can there be a greater miracle?
We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely.
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Excellent question. Based on Scripture, I conclude baby Jesus was highly vulnerable, so God intervened to protect Him.

Matt 1:13: And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

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“Who’s Lying in the Manger” – by David Cornfield

He who is the Almighty became a suckling baby.

He who is all wise took on the dumbness of a newborn.

He whom the heavens cannot contain was enclosed in a woman’s womb.

He before whom the seraphim continually cry “Holy, Holy, Holy” was born of a sinner into a world under the dominion of sin.

He who is unchanging went through nine months of contrast, of constant change, to enter a world of change.

He who is all-knowing had to communicate through baby cries.

He who is infinite became a microscopic cell.

He who is love was born outside a hotel because no one had room for his laboring mother.

He who is the creator became a creature.

He who has always been spirit took on the awkwardness of a human body.

He who is Eternal allowed himself to be bound by time.

He who is light was entombed for nine months in warm blackness.

He who is just was accused of being an illegitimate child.

He who is sovereign God became dependent on a human man and woman for his food and clothing.

He who is clothed with majesty was born in a cattle trough.

He who alone is self-sufficient had to be cleaned and nursed.

He who is life was born with a death warrant around his neck.

Can there be a greater mystery?

Can there be a greater miracle?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Thank you L & L... wonderful material to reflect upon!


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Excellent question. Based on Scripture, I conclude baby Jesus was highly vulnerable, so God intervened to protect Him.

Matt 1:13: And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


That is what i've been thinking this Christmas Season. He just humbled Himself into the dust for us!!!



hf
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Excellent question. Based on Scripture, I conclude baby Jesus was highly vulnerable, so God intervened to protect Him.

Matt 1:13: And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


That is what i've been thinking this Christmas Season. He just humbled Himself into the dust for us!!!



hf
 Quoting: Once4All


Interesting, I have been reflecting on the same idea this Christmas season.
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Excellent question. Based on Scripture, I conclude baby Jesus was highly vulnerable, so God intervened to protect Him.

Matt 1:13: And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


That is what i've been thinking this Christmas Season. He just humbled Himself into the dust for us!!!



hf
 Quoting: Once4All


Interesting, I have been reflecting on the same idea this Christmas season.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


Truly, anyone should be able to see the goodness of God in all of this. If there is a greater miracle than His birth then perhaps it is Him allowing Himself to finally be murdered.
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There are three predators afoot. The Elite, that is Herod,

The extremists, those are the pirates who would attack caravans and travelers (this is why the wise men, had to take altered routes part of the time and did not really make it at the same time.) They had to "true up" their travels with natural law devices, of which the wise men had full knowledge, and could do so effectively. (Like the way we make the light turn green before we get there, or make sure there is a parking spot near the door of the store just as we leave the house to drive there.)

And the Mass. The general population who could not recognize their own healing, if it hit them on the head.
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There are three predators afoot. The Elite, that is Herod,

The extremists, those are the pirates who would attack caravans and travelers (this is why the wise men, had to take altered routes part of the time and did not really make it at the same time.) They had to "true up" their travels with natural law devices, of which the wise men had full knowledge, and could do so effectively. (Like the way we make the light turn green before we get there, or make sure there is a parking spot near the door of the store just as we leave the house to drive there.)

And the Mass. The general population who could not recognize their own healing, if it hit them on the head.
 Quoting: Mix 1430445


Interesting. Thanks for sharing!


hf
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Excellent question. Based on Scripture, I conclude baby Jesus was highly vulnerable, so God intervened to protect Him.

Matt 1:13: And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


That is what i've been thinking this Christmas Season. He just humbled Himself into the dust for us!!!



hf
 Quoting: Once4All


Interesting, I have been reflecting on the same idea this Christmas season.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


Truly, anyone should be able to see the goodness of God in all of this. If there is a greater miracle than His birth then perhaps it is Him allowing Himself to finally be murdered.
 Quoting: Once4All


Agreed. As a baby, Jesus had not yet received the Holy Spirit, so my GUESS is that He did not yet have the power to project Himself. (I am a little shaky on the idea and plan to look into it more). When He was crucified, He had all power and could have refused the crucifixion.
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That is what i've been thinking this Christmas Season. He just humbled Himself into the dust for us!!!



hf
 Quoting: Once4All


Interesting, I have been reflecting on the same idea this Christmas season.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


Truly, anyone should be able to see the goodness of God in all of this. If there is a greater miracle than His birth then perhaps it is Him allowing Himself to finally be murdered.
 Quoting: Once4All


Agreed. As a baby, Jesus had not yet received the Holy Spirit, so my GUESS is that He did not yet have the power to project Himself. (I am a little shaky on the idea and plan to look into it more). When He was crucified, He had all power and could have refused the crucifixion.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


hmmm... interesting thinking. Right, He did not have the Holy Spirit when He was born. I think He was at the mercy of those arround Him which is why the Angel told them to flee shortly after His birth.
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Interesting, I have been reflecting on the same idea this Christmas season.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


Truly, anyone should be able to see the goodness of God in all of this. If there is a greater miracle than His birth then perhaps it is Him allowing Himself to finally be murdered.
 Quoting: Once4All


Agreed. As a baby, Jesus had not yet received the Holy Spirit, so my GUESS is that He did not yet have the power to project Himself. (I am a little shaky on the idea and plan to look into it more). When He was crucified, He had all power and could have refused the crucifixion.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


hmmm... interesting thinking. Right, He did not have the Holy Spirit when He was born. I think He was at the mercy of those arround Him which is why the Angel told them to flee shortly after His birth.
 Quoting: Once4All


The part that confuses me, and which I will need to review, is how the Holy Spirit could have conceived Jesus, and Jesus not have the Holy Spirit. Also, when Mary met Elizabeth, John the Baptist jumped in her womb; he had the Holy Spirit even in the womb. I have some reading to do.
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Truly, anyone should be able to see the goodness of God in all of this. If there is a greater miracle than His birth then perhaps it is Him allowing Himself to finally be murdered.
 Quoting: Once4All


Agreed. As a baby, Jesus had not yet received the Holy Spirit, so my GUESS is that He did not yet have the power to project Himself. (I am a little shaky on the idea and plan to look into it more). When He was crucified, He had all power and could have refused the crucifixion.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


hmmm... interesting thinking. Right, He did not have the Holy Spirit when He was born. I think He was at the mercy of those arround Him which is why the Angel told them to flee shortly after His birth.
 Quoting: Once4All


The part that confuses me, and which I will need to review, is how the Holy Spirit could have conceived Jesus, and Jesus not have the Holy Spirit. Also, when Mary met Elizabeth, John the Baptist jumped in her womb; he had the Holy Spirit even in the womb. I have some reading to do.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


While we are at it... Was Jesus "born again" ???
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Watch "Talagada Nights" Movie....that should splain all!!
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Agreed. As a baby, Jesus had not yet received the Holy Spirit, so my GUESS is that He did not yet have the power to project Himself. (I am a little shaky on the idea and plan to look into it more). When He was crucified, He had all power and could have refused the crucifixion.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


hmmm... interesting thinking. Right, He did not have the Holy Spirit when He was born. I think He was at the mercy of those arround Him which is why the Angel told them to flee shortly after His birth.
 Quoting: Once4All


The part that confuses me, and which I will need to review, is how the Holy Spirit could have conceived Jesus, and Jesus not have the Holy Spirit. Also, when Mary met Elizabeth, John the Baptist jumped in her womb; he had the Holy Spirit even in the womb. I have some reading to do.
 Quoting: SoulWinner


While we are at it... Was Jesus "born again" ???
 Quoting: Once4All

He is the firstborn into eternal life, I believe, given that that everyone born again is born of the Spirit which became available only after Jesus rose and ascended. All of these great questions, and so many assumptions I have never really challenged. And I still have not opened my Bible this evening. But I will! I know the answers are there.
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Time to Rest...

Goodnight!!!



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Time to Rest...

Goodnight!!!



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 Quoting: Once4All


Me again. I was checking for Charlie Brown Christmas this evening, so that pic is another indicator of our shared thinking. ;) this is soulwinner. Cannot log in.
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paraphrasing..

when Lucifer was tempting YAHshua in the wilderness he cited that if YAHshua threw himself from the high place the angels were charged to make sure He didn't dash His foot on a rock and they would rescue Him immediately.

I believe that the Herod thing had a purpose or it would not have happened as it did. That purpose may be somewhere in the hundreds of prophesies in the Old Testament that all point to that one person born in a manger in Bethlehem.

YAHshua (Jesus) didn't start His ministry until He was around 30 years old. He told Mary at the wedding feast that His time was not yet arrived for His ministry, yet to honor His earthly mother, He did as she asked.

How did Mary have such faith? She wasn't intending to ask something that He could not do. She knew He had power. There may be interesting stories there that have not been recorded for us.
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lol
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vul·ner·a·ble [vuhl-ner-uh-buh]
adjective
1. capable of or susceptible to being wounded or hurt, as by a weapon: a vulnerable part of the body.
2. open to moral attack, criticism, temptation, etc.: an argument vulnerable to refutation; He is vulnerable to bribery.
3. (of a place) open to assault; difficult to defend: a vulnerable bridge.


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 Quoting: Once4All



Jesus was weakened by Kryptonite, right? Wait. That's Superman.

Jesus could only use his powers once a year, right? Wait. That's Santa Claus.

Jesus had the ability to put teeth under children's pillows, right? Wait. That's the Tooth Fairy.

It's hard to keep fictional characters straight.
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vul·ner·a·ble [vuhl-ner-uh-buh]
adjective
1. capable of or susceptible to being wounded or hurt, as by a weapon: a vulnerable part of the body.
2. open to moral attack, criticism, temptation, etc.: an argument vulnerable to refutation; He is vulnerable to bribery.
3. (of a place) open to assault; difficult to defend: a vulnerable bridge.


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 Quoting: Once4All



Jesus was weakened by Kryptonite, right? Wait. That's Superman.

Jesus could only use his powers once a year, right? Wait. That's Santa Claus.

Jesus had the ability to put teeth under children's pillows, right? Wait. That's the Tooth Fairy.

It's hard to keep fictional characters straight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12430998


How incredibly uninformed. Even religions that reject Christianity do not dispute Jesus' existence.
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Young lady, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

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Young lady, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

hf
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Oh.....just busy doing this and that.....lol.

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