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Ralph--a house dog

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Been on any wicked anti-biotics lately? It changes everything; all the good bacteria in your gut and your immune system goes caput. I've never been the same and it sucks the big weenie.
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Not lately, but...over the years. It is probably the start of it all.

I'm actually considering a fecal transplant. It might solve it all, but where the heck do you get one?
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AC 28386399--Couple of other posters suggested really good probiotics. You might want to look in to trying some for a few months.

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maybe you have a fallty SA node, or pacemaker hence the fibrilation.So you might need an artificial pacemaker. So see a cardiologist. Maybe atherosclerosis, clogging of your arteries causing backup. Either way make a change in diet and ecerise.
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There are lots of very smart people on GLP, and I need your help.


I used to eat anything and everything, but over the past few years I've developed an allergy to all meat, plus other stuff.
When I eat meat, I get Atrial Fibrilation. I've also experienced tachycardia and PVC's along the way. I'm pretty sure that my stomach is the key to the whole thing because it's really messed up. I was taking Flecainide but had to stop because it hurt my stomach so much.

So what's going on with me? Is there anything I can do to stop it or even help it. I'm really getting tired of eating eggs and bland vegetables to avoid the worst of Afib.

65 yo, 210lb, male
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You probably already did a lot to stop it if you stopped the drug that can cause all your symptoms.

[link to www.drugs.com]
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My first cardiologist put me on flecainide because I already had Afib and heart blockages. I don't know if PVCs were a problem then. The last cardiologist had me up to 300 mg flec a day and put me on something else that nearly killed me. He made himself unobtainable for over a week, and I put myself back on flec and worked my way back down. Now I take Flec only when my afib gets so bad that I can't stand it and on the order of 12 to 50gm. Just enough to get me back into some tolerable sinus rhythm.

I don't think that cardiologists have the answer for me. It's either just take the pill or how about some surgery? They're used to losing patients but have more patients than they can see, so it's not a problem getting new patients for them.
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Think I'd have been tempted to plop that drugs.com page on his desk and ask his reasoning on prescribing it. Did you read all the way to the bottom where it said:

"Flecainide may cause or exacerbate arrhythmias in 1% of patients with preexisting paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia and in 7% of patients with paroxysmal atrial fibrillation. Flecainide may also exacerbate arrhythmias in 7% to 13% of patients with preexisting sustained or nonsustained ventricular arrhythmias.

Flecainide-induced arrhythmias include sinus bradycardia or arrest in 2%, bundle branch blocks in 1%, increased premature ventricular depolarizations in 1%, ventricular tachycardia or fibrillation in 0.5%, and sudden death in 0.2% of patients. New ventricular arrhythmias have been reported in 3.4% of patients."
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How much do you drink? I'm thinking that it has something to do with your liver.
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I used to drink straight vodka everyday, maybe 4 or 5 shots, but I haven't had anything to drink in nearly a year. Yeah, I might have abused my liver a little bit. Too bad pot is illegal.
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Fo-Ti
Kelp
Mushrooms (Reishi, Shitake, Mitake,Chaga,Zhu Ling)

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Been on any wicked anti-biotics lately? It changes everything; all the good bacteria in your gut and your immune system goes caput. I've never been the same and it sucks the big weenie.
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Not lately, but...over the years. It is probably the start of it all.

I'm actually considering a fecal transplant. It might solve it all, but where the heck do you get one?
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Before this, try Oregano Oil - make sure its natural and the real thing.
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There are lots of very smart people on GLP, and I need your help.


I used to eat anything and everything, but over the past few years I've developed an allergy to all meat, plus other stuff.
When I eat meat, I get Atrial Fibrilation. I've also experienced tachycardia and PVC's along the way. I'm pretty sure that my stomach is the key to the whole thing because it's really messed up. I was taking Flecainide but had to stop because it hurt my stomach so much.

So what's going on with me? Is there anything I can do to stop it or even help it. I'm really getting tired of eating eggs and bland vegetables to avoid the worst of Afib.

65 yo, 210lb, male
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


You probably already did a lot to stop it if you stopped the drug that can cause all your symptoms.

[link to www.drugs.com]
 Quoting: Nine's


My first cardiologist put me on flecainide because I already had Afib and heart blockages. I don't know if PVCs were a problem then. The last cardiologist had me up to 300 mg flec a day and put me on something else that nearly killed me. He made himself unobtainable for over a week, and I put myself back on flec and worked my way back down. Now I take Flec only when my afib gets so bad that I can't stand it and on the order of 12 to 50gm. Just enough to get me back into some tolerable sinus rhythm.

I don't think that cardiologists have the answer for me. It's either just take the pill or how about some surgery? They're used to losing patients but have more patients than they can see, so it's not a problem getting new patients for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Have you tried Hawthorn? I do, when needed only, and I keep in mind that sometimes blood cleansers can peel the scales out of the blood system so fast sometimes they block the heart.
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Been on any wicked anti-biotics lately? It changes everything; all the good bacteria in your gut and your immune system goes caput. I've never been the same and it sucks the big weenie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28386399


Not lately, but...over the years. It is probably the start of it all.

I'm actually considering a fecal transplant. It might solve it all, but where the heck do you get one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


AC 28386399--Couple of other posters suggested really good probiotics. You might want to look in to trying some for a few months.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


I replied that I've tried several, with Jarrow's being the most expensive. I drink buttermilk, eat yogurt and have given a shot at drinking fermented tea. Recently I've been dissolving acidophilus tablets in my mouth. I can't see that any of them help more than 24 hours.
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There are lots of very smart people on GLP, and I need your help.


I used to eat anything and everything, but over the past few years I've developed an allergy to all meat, plus other stuff.
When I eat meat, I get Atrial Fibrilation. I've also experienced tachycardia and PVC's along the way. I'm pretty sure that my stomach is the key to the whole thing because it's really messed up. I was taking Flecainide but had to stop because it hurt my stomach so much.

So what's going on with me? Is there anything I can do to stop it or even help it. I'm really getting tired of eating eggs and bland vegetables to avoid the worst of Afib.

65 yo, 210lb, male
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


You probably already did a lot to stop it if you stopped the drug that can cause all your symptoms.

[link to www.drugs.com]
 Quoting: Nine's


My first cardiologist put me on flecainide because I already had Afib and heart blockages. I don't know if PVCs were a problem then. The last cardiologist had me up to 300 mg flec a day and put me on something else that nearly killed me. He made himself unobtainable for over a week, and I put myself back on flec and worked my way back down. Now I take Flec only when my afib gets so bad that I can't stand it and on the order of 12 to 50gm. Just enough to get me back into some tolerable sinus rhythm.

I don't think that cardiologists have the answer for me. It's either just take the pill or how about some surgery? They're used to losing patients but have more patients than they can see, so it's not a problem getting new patients for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Have you tried Hawthorn? I do, when needed only, and I keep in mind that sometimes blood cleansers can peel the scales out of the blood system so fast sometimes they block the heart.
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I have been taking hawthorn berry for a while but stopped recently. I can't see any difference.
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maybe you have a fallty SA node, or pacemaker hence the fibrilation.So you might need an artificial pacemaker. So see a cardiologist. Maybe atherosclerosis, clogging of your arteries causing backup. Either way make a change in diet and ecerise.
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I had a procedure at a Heart Hospital about 6 years ago because they thought that I might need stents, but I only had blockage of about 20% on one artery, so I elected to get the hell out of their and go home.

I had been taking EDTA regularly, plus the vodka, so I wasn't surprised that I was so clear.
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allergic to meats = do not eat meat.

Irregular heart rate can be from all the fat and cholesterol. It can also be from meds. Or due to MSG additives.

HBP?
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I bought some of that damn EDTA. It's a chemical and no longer take it. After a trip to the hospital myself I only take whole foods. No chemical sups.

The best way to clear blockages is a regular 3 day fast, and change in diet to less fat.
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How much do you drink? I'm thinking that it has something to do with your liver.
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I used to drink straight vodka everyday, maybe 4 or 5 shots, but I haven't had anything to drink in nearly a year. Yeah, I might have abused my liver a little bit. Too bad pot is illegal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Fo-Ti
Kelp
Mushrooms (Reishi, Shitake, Mitake,Chaga,Zhu Ling)

Check these out for liver repair.
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What about Sillymarin (SP?)
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Suggest you get tested by Enterolab of Texas.

[link to enterolab.com (secure)]


Enterolab is testing for gluten sevsitivity, chrons, IBS which are caused by an enterovirus.

Enterovirus also cuses diverculitis.

Enterovirus is cured by pancreatin, quercetin and glutathione (whey, selenium)
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I'm also thinking that wheat gluten may be the culprit. In this case, it is best to give up all grains except brown rice, quinoa, millet only. At least 3 weeks without any gluten in the diet should show major improvement (if gluten is the problem).

This is how I found out I was gluten intolerant. I took myself off all wheat, which is in just about everything. I did this for 3 weeks & all my symptoms disappeared.
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allergic to meats = do not eat meat.

Irregular heart rate can be from all the fat and cholesterol. It can also be from meds. Or due to MSG additives.

HBP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29002615


Meat has been off my menu for more than a year, except for a taste here and there. I initially thought that MSG was the problem and meat, mushrooms and cheese are naturally high in glutamates. So..it's still suspect. Virtually all prepared food has MSG or HFCS. I read All labels and know the many names of MSG.
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How much do you drink? I'm thinking that it has something to do with your liver.
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I used to drink straight vodka everyday, maybe 4 or 5 shots, but I haven't had anything to drink in nearly a year. Yeah, I might have abused my liver a little bit. Too bad pot is illegal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Fo-Ti
Kelp
Mushrooms (Reishi, Shitake, Mitake,Chaga,Zhu Ling)

Check these out for liver repair.
 Quoting: wabishkaeyabe 28671687



What about Sillymarin (SP?)
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Never heard of it.
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Suggest you get tested by Enterolab of Texas.

[link to enterolab.com (secure)]


Enterolab is testing for gluten sevsitivity, chrons, IBS which are caused by an enterovirus.

Enterovirus also cuses diverculitis.

Enterovirus is cured by pancreatin, quercetin and glutathione (whey, selenium)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29115322


I'm also thinking that wheat gluten may be the culprit. In this case, it is best to give up all grains except brown rice, quinoa, millet only. At least 3 weeks without any gluten in the diet should show major improvement (if gluten is the problem).

This is how I found out I was gluten intolerant. I took myself off all wheat, which is in just about everything. I did this for 3 weeks & all my symptoms disappeared.
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I guess that's the next thing for me to try, but, like I said, I eat very little bread or pasta. A slice of toast today was the 1st slice in several weeks. I have a taste of noodles every couple of days. Just a bite or two.
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I used to drink straight vodka everyday, maybe 4 or 5 shots, but I haven't had anything to drink in nearly a year. Yeah, I might have abused my liver a little bit. Too bad pot is illegal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Fo-Ti
Kelp
Mushrooms (Reishi, Shitake, Mitake,Chaga,Zhu Ling)

Check these out for liver repair.
 Quoting: wabishkaeyabe 28671687



What about Sillymarin (SP?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Never heard of it.
 Quoting: wabishkaeyabe 28671687





SILIMARIN EXTRACT
Milk Thistle Seed contains the chemical "silymarin" a super anti-oxidant which protects the liver from toxins and pollutants by preventing free radical damage. Silimarin Extract (Milk Thistle Seed) stimulates the production of new liver cells. It reduces toxicity and reverses liver damage caused by most prescription and over-the counter drugs, including, acetaminophen, Aspirin, nicotine, cholesterol-lowering drugs, chemotherapy drugs, psychotropic drugs, allergy drugs, blood pressure lowering drugs, and alcohol. It protects against pollutants such as carbon monoxide, pesticides and herbicides, by breaking them down from potentially lethal substances into those that are less destructive to the body. It has been used to treat liver disease, including hepatitis and cirrhosis. It improves blood platelet count and white blood cell count. It is believed to have an anti-cancer effect on both breast and prostate cancer. Silimarin Extract (Milk Thistle Seed) strengthens the heart and lungs; increases the flow of oxygen to the brain.
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chron's disease, maybe?
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Nope. The problem seems to be with my stomach itself, and not my intestines. But I could be wrong. Is Afib ever associated with Chron's?

I'm thinking that the Vegus nerve is irritated from my stomach and sets off my heart. Even in ice cold drink will cause my heart to pound for a few minutes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Everyone's pulse elevates after eating


Eating, swallowing and digestion all affect your nervous system. While the sympathetic branch of your nervous system is active while eating and swallowing, your parasympathetic nervous system takes over during digestion.

Read more: [link to www.livestrong.com]


Sympathetic nervous system:
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]


Have you tried Taurine? It may calm this response (insert "talk to your doctor before starting any new drug" disclaimer here)

"Taurine might also improve heart failure because it seems to lower blood pressure and calm the sympathetic nervous system, which is often too active in people with high blood pressure and CHF. The sympathetic nervous system is the part of the nervous system that responds to stress."


[link to www.webmd.com]

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Read an interesting article today on GMO foods and apparently the mobility of recombinant DNA sequences out of those foods and into you and your cells. It was postulated that if, say, you ate a lot of GMO soy you might have gut bacteria with GMO soy parts incorporated into them and that that would make them no longer digest soy. Other things like wheat sensitivity could be similar perhaps. Maybe yours. I can't find the link but it was in MSM today.
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This is what I was thinking. I know a lot of people starting to have trouble and they eat meat that is from the store and
most of it is GMO. They are causing people to get sick.

Have allergy tests to see if you are having trouble with more than meat. My niece is having trouble with a lot of foods.

Make sure you see a doctor to rule out any other illness.
leaving off meat and eating the most natural food you can find would be a start. If you start feeling better, you will be thankful you did!

Hope you feel better soon!
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Do you experience flushing and sweating after eating a high protein meal ?

It sounds to me as tho you may have something called postprandial tachycardia.
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Fo-Ti
Kelp
Mushrooms (Reishi, Shitake, Mitake,Chaga,Zhu Ling)

Check these out for liver repair.
 Quoting: wabishkaeyabe 28671687



What about Sillymarin (SP?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Never heard of it.
 Quoting: wabishkaeyabe 28671687





SILIMARIN EXTRACT
Milk Thistle Seed contains the chemical "silymarin" a super anti-oxidant which protects the liver from toxins and pollutants by preventing free radical damage. Silimarin Extract (Milk Thistle Seed) stimulates the production of new liver cells. It reduces toxicity and reverses liver damage caused by most prescription and over-the counter drugs, including, acetaminophen, Aspirin, nicotine, cholesterol-lowering drugs, chemotherapy drugs, psychotropic drugs, allergy drugs, blood pressure lowering drugs, and alcohol. It protects against pollutants such as carbon monoxide, pesticides and herbicides, by breaking them down from potentially lethal substances into those that are less destructive to the body. It has been used to treat liver disease, including hepatitis and cirrhosis. It improves blood platelet count and white blood cell count. It is believed to have an anti-cancer effect on both breast and prostate cancer. Silimarin Extract (Milk Thistle Seed) strengthens the heart and lungs; increases the flow of oxygen to the brain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Ah, yes, milk thistle. Well, I never heard of the extract, but I have heard of using the seed pods. It is thought to be very powerful and should be avoided. That by the medicine people here. They say too much can kill you and if you don't know how to use it, don't.

If it's on the market, and, hence, controlled, I don't see any problems, except possible side effects or drug interaction. Never heard of it for liver repair, but for some diseases that could be caused by liver damage. IDK Use at your own risk.

But do check out the one's I listed above, especially Fo-Ti.
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Do you experience flushing and sweating after eating a high protein meal ?

It sounds to me as tho you may have something called postprandial tachycardia.
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No to the flushing and sweating, but I've self-diagnosed myself with postprandial tachycardia. Neither of my cardiologists have mentioned that condition. Both of them acted like I was full of shit when I told them that eating set it off. In fact, just about every medical person of any type has looked at me like I was crazy when I mentioned it.
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chron's disease, maybe?
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Nope. The problem seems to be with my stomach itself, and not my intestines. But I could be wrong. Is Afib ever associated with Chron's?

I'm thinking that the Vegus nerve is irritated from my stomach and sets off my heart. Even in ice cold drink will cause my heart to pound for a few minutes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5676214


Everyone's pulse elevates after eating


Eating, swallowing and digestion all affect your nervous system. While the sympathetic branch of your nervous system is active while eating and swallowing, your parasympathetic nervous system takes over during digestion.

Read more: [link to www.livestrong.com]


Sympathetic nervous system:
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]


Have you tried Taurine? It may calm this response (insert "talk to your doctor before starting any new drug" disclaimer here)

"Taurine might also improve heart failure because it seems to lower blood pressure and calm the sympathetic nervous system, which is often too active in people with high blood pressure and CHF. The sympathetic nervous system is the part of the nervous system that responds to stress."


[link to www.webmd.com]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I've tried taurine in a limited way. No miraculous recovery.
I've been researching this condition for several years now and tried a lot of things. It would be nice to get a concensus about what caused it and Maybe how to fix it.
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Read an interesting article today on GMO foods and apparently the mobility of recombinant DNA sequences out of those foods and into you and your cells. It was postulated that if, say, you ate a lot of GMO soy you might have gut bacteria with GMO soy parts incorporated into them and that that would make them no longer digest soy. Other things like wheat sensitivity could be similar perhaps. Maybe yours. I can't find the link but it was in MSM today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28806063


This is what I was thinking. I know a lot of people starting to have trouble and they eat meat that is from the store and
most of it is GMO. They are causing people to get sick.

Have allergy tests to see if you are having trouble with more than meat. My niece is having trouble with a lot of foods.

Make sure you see a doctor to rule out any other illness.
leaving off meat and eating the most natural food you can find would be a start. If you start feeling better, you will be thankful you did!

Hope you feel better soon!
 Quoting: Daughter


Thank you
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I want to thank everyone for their thoughts and I'll be reviewing this very well to make sure I didn't miss anything.


I think that this is unrelated, but I want to thank whoever did the boron thread for it. I'm feeling better and my sister who was taking 3 to 4 Rx pain pills a day didn't need any pills on the second day of 1/4 tsp borax/ltr water. That is amazing. Less than a penny's worth of twenty mule team borax replaced 4 rx pain pills. I don't know if it was really a fluke, or if it's real, but we're both going to keep taking borax. I'll give an update on that in a few weeks.

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