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I assume since Syria's president has mixed the chemicals for Sarin gas and is moving his chemical combat troops that he will use them very soon.

TO the Pentagon, you need to be ready to use a small tactical nuclear weapon to destroy those weapons. It is too late to send troops to secure them. You need to be ready for nuclear war against Russia and China in the event they do something even more stupid than they have already been doing.

Considering China's foolish south seas actions China real colors are obvious. If you're going to have war with those that that will eventually attack the United States anyway, then it makes sense to see how serious China and Russia are about all out Nuclear war.

I think they will come to their senses, but if not you can rest assured Russia and China are not America's friends. It is time for a preventive nuclear stike on Syria. Israel is going to do it if you don't the minute one wild or intentional
shell from Syria with Sarin hits Israel's cities.

You need to forget about Iran or a peace with Iran. It will never happen no matter how hopeful you are.

War is going to happen either way, if you pretend that you can find peace without strength FORGET IT. America needs to be ready to fight a war that kills billions. The world does not care about America's power because America is trying so hard to be liked. Forget about being liked, forget about Russia and China. It is time to be serious about America's enemies. If China and Russia won't help in Syria be ready to attack them if they get in the way.

We all have to die someday, so if we must die let it be for doing the right thing. Not kissing everyone thinking they really want to help America.

This war is coming no matter what you do, fight it like you mean to win it, not be controlled by the fear of losing it or world war 3. Man up America and do what you're going to have to do anyway. Use your military like your serious about war and freedom as you are about peace.

PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH is all the rest of the world understands. So get on the phone and tell Russia and China what must be done in Syria and whaty will happen to them if they get in the way. If they back off and are willing to help you gain, if they threaten war, well you already knew that, do the right thing anyway.
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Assad’s chemical weapons units head out of Damascus toward Aleppo
DEBKAfile Special Report December 4, 2012, 9:51 PM (GMT+02:00)

Syrian chemical weapons

As NATO in Brussels gave the go-ahead Tuesday night, Dec. 4, for the deployment of Patriot surface-to-air missiles to protect Turkey against Syrian missiles, debkafile’s military and intelligence sources reported that convoys of the Syrian army’s chemical weapons units headed out of Damascus under cover of dark and turned north up the road to Aleppo. Their destination is not yet known.
The convoys were ferrying self-propelled cannons for firing shells loaded with poisonous sarin gas.
Syrian President Bashar Assad had evidently decided to ignore the warnings President Barack Obama issued Monday night that there would be consequences if he or anyone in Syria resorted to chemical warfare and each would be held accountable.

Our sources report that the Syrian ruler is aparently gambling dangerously on the Americans holding back from attacking the convoys as long as they deploy unconventional weapons, and would only react when they are used.

He is also taking advantage of the heavy winds, rain and cloud over this part of the eastern Mediterranean and counting on the weather to obstruct military operations against his chemical weapons units.

By the time the weather clears some time Thursday, the units will be in place in battle formation. Meanwhile, bombing the convoys in windy weather could cause the deadly gas to spread out of control in unpredictable directions.
In Brussels, a NATO official announced that the alliance had agreed to augment Turkey’s air-defense capabilities by deploying Patriot missiles to Turkey.
debkafile’s military sources report that by the time the missiles arrive, the Syrian chemical weapons units will almost certainly have reached their pre-planned positions. Furthermore, the Patriot air defense systems are not designed to counter artillery and would therefore be unable to stop shells loaded with poison gas.

debkafile reported earlier Tuesday, Dec. 4.
US forces in the region, Israel, Turkey and Jordan were all braced Monday night, Dec. 3 for action against Syria in case Syrian President Bashar Assad ordered his army’s chemical warfare units to go into action against rebel and civilian targets his own country. None of the Middle East capitals are talking openly about this eventuality to avoiding causing panic.
However, oblique references to the peril and preparations for action came from US officials during Monday. White House spokesman Jay Carney said: “We have an increased concern about the possibility of the regime taking the desperate act of using its chemical weapons.” Such a move “would cross a red line for the United States.”

Without going into specifics, Carney added: “We think it is important to prepare for all scenarios. Contingency planning is the responsible thing to do.”
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Prague was slightly more specific: Syrian action on chemical weapons remains a “red line” for the Obama administration, she said, and “would prompt action from the United States.”

Regarding contingencies, debkafile’s military sources report that the American force in Jordan and Jordanian units, who have been training for two months in tactics against Syrian chemical warfare units, are on a high state of preparedness. So, too, are the three special US command centers set up in Turkey, Jordan and Israel for coordinating such operations.

An American official “with knowledge of the situation” told Wired Magazine that “engineers working for the Assad regime in Syria have begun combining the two chemical precursors needed to weaponize sarin gas.”

Anchored opposite the Syrian shore is the USS Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group with 2,500 Marines. Facing it is the Russian Black Sea Fleet’s naval task force which too has hundreds of marines on its decks.

debkafile’s sources quote high-ranking officers in the Israel Defense Forces’ Northern Command as saying: “The coming hours and days are extremely critical for Syria. The situation on our northern front could blow up any moment.” They did not elaborate.

Later Monday, as the United Nations regional humanitarian coordinator for Syria, Radhouane Nouicer announced the pullout of nonessential international staff “because of the security situation,” Secretary Clinton flew into Brussels from Prague to discuss with NATO foreign ministers the deployment of Patriot anti-missile batteries at 10 points on the Turkish-Syrian border - a massive number.
NATO sources took note of the Syrian Foreign Ministry’s reply to the spreading reports. He said that the government “would not use chemical weapons, if it had them, against its own people under any circumstances.” This statement carried no promise about using such weapons against external forces, whether American, Turkish, Jordanian or Israeli.

In Istanbul, meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin told reporters at the end of his one-day visit: “What we are concerned about is Syria’s future. We don’t want the same mistakes to be repeated in the near future.” He went on to say: “We shall remember how some regimes supported the militants in Libya and how the situation ended with the killing of the American ambassador in Libya.”This was meant by the Russian president as a warning to the US not to get involved in the Syrian crisis as it did in Libya.
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No need to comment anyone, just want to make sure the NSA and CIA webots have time to flag this post. I assume they already have considered all these things but currently America has a lot of senior officers at the Pentagon that actually believe they can talk peace only to solve all these problems. This type of thinking is actually causing more problems than it is solving.

By the way for those that did not know, Sarin gas is very corrosive. Once mixed it will eat whatever it is put into usally within 45 days. Some shells use a multi bladder system that mixes when the shell is fired. In either case it is not a good thing once Sarin is weaponized. It is very hard to reverse it safely unless done in just a few days. Usally less than 14 days.

This is my last bump, may the Pentagon war planner really be ready for every situation. Do not assume anything and do not rull out anything. That is the hope of this post, be really ready for war and to win that war it if it comes to that.
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Are you crazy? A tactical nuclear weapon on Syria? Why????
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No need to comment anyone, just want to make sure the NSA and CIA webots have time to flag this post. I assume they already have considered all these things but currently America has a lot of senior officers at the Pentagon that actually believe they can talk peace only to solve all these problems. This type of thinking is actually causing more problems than it is solving.

By the way for those that did not know, Sarin gas is very corrosive. Once mixed it will eat whatever it is put into usally within 45 days. Some shells use a multi bladder system that mixes when the shell is fired. In either case it is not a good thing once Sarin is weaponized. It is very hard to reverse it safely unless done in just a few days. Usally less than 14 days.

This is my last bump, may the Pentagon war planner really be ready for every situation. Do not assume anything and do not rull out anything. That is the hope of this post, be really ready for war and to win that war it if it comes to that.
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YOU REALLY ARE TOOTIE FUCKING FRUITY.
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Are you crazy? A tactical nuclear weapon on Syria? Why????
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Same here man, saw "tactical nuke" and thought "ok, this is invalid..."
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Also Sarin is not corrosive. It is a nerve agent. Like the others it is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor.
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Op don't worry, God Almighty is in control of all things.
If you want to know His unconditional love and salvation only through Jesus/Yahshua Christ, knock and He will open the door.
His Holy words, The Word of God will not pass till all things are fulfilled.
Matthew 24
Mark 13
Luke 21
John
Isaiah 17
Deuteronomy 11
Revelation

God bless and Jesus/Yahshua Christ is Lord and Savior!
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Are you crazy? A tactical nuclear weapon on Syria? Why????
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Same here man, saw "tactical nuke" and thought "ok, this is invalid..."
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Tactical nuclear weapon use for this situation is already authorized by American first strike policy when all other options fail. It has been the nuclear first strike policy of America since 1993. It was brought in quietly so the joint chiefs and the president could authorize the use of small tactical nuclear weapons in the event Sadam Hussien used chemical weapons in the first gulf war. I assume you are a person who may not have been born yet, or a person that did not do much research on America nuclear first strike policy since 1993.

Source -
[link to www.pugwash.org]

Even though the US never formally adopted a policy of No First Use of nuclear weapons, most Americans likely believed that the US would not be the first to use nuclear weapons in a conflict. There were, of course, explicit exceptions to a reliance on retaliatory deterrence. The first involved the US and NATO declaring their intention to possibly use nuclear weapons against a conventional attack from the East, which policy continues to this day, despite the fact that the USSR and Warsaw Pact no longer exist. The second major exception entailed a possible nuclear response to a biological or chemical weapons attack made by a non-nuclear weapons state, as was obliquely made clear to Saddam Hussein during the Persian Gulf War.

Sorce - Wiki

This supersedes the doctrine of the Bush Administration set forth in "Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations" and written under the direction of Air Force General Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The new doctrine envisions commanders requesting presidential approval to use nuclear weapons to preempt an attack by a nation or a terrorist group using weapons of mass destruction. The draft also includes the option of using nuclear weapons to destroy known enemy stockpiles of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons.

Section VI: Sarine Nerve Gas (GB) - Reactivity Data

STABILITY: Stable when pure.

INCOMPATIBILITY: Attacks tin, magnesium, cadmium plated steel, some aluminums. Slight attack on copper, brass, lead, practically no attack on 1020 steel, Inconel & K-monel.

Hydrolyzes to form HF under acid conditions and isopropyl alcohol & polymers under basic conditions
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Are you crazy? A tactical nuclear weapon on Syria? Why????
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If Sarin gas is used with artillery shells proper preset elevation proximity fuses along with the correct weather so the gas will best disperse and aresol, then you could do a massive attack with about a 80 foot killing radius for each artillery shell. Since the Patriot system being deployed to Turkey cannot shoot down artillery shells or bombs, then basically you what you have is situation that can produce 75 to 95 percent kill rate in any of those 80 foot killing radius if all conditions are optimal.

Syria is only a few miles away from Israel and if Syria choose
to do so could attack Israel with a large enough attack in one hour to kill 100,000 people in one hour if their planning was done correctly. The Iron dome would stop some of them but would be quickly overwhelmed by sheer volume of fired shells in less than 15 minutes a good artillery company could fire. Syria's missile defense would be able to protect Syria from the IDF for at least an hour. In that hour Syria could kill 50,000 to 250,000 people if weather was perfect.

Also once an attack began of any type the fear of those weapons being dispersed to terrorists and lost during in the chaos of war will also prompt a nuclear attack.
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Words From the Father--Stephen Hanson



"PERSIA WILL REVOLT"

March 18, 2012

I was in the spirit and the Lord told me to begin writing,

"I tell you that a great army is assembling. For hordes are getting
ready to come across the ocean. The battle in
the Middle East has begun. For as in ancient times they came with
spears and hooks; now they come with
modern warfare. For the ancient country of Persia will muster their
forces with the aid of China. For when
the sanctions run out, and when their resources are depleted, then
they will come forth with a mighty arm.

For these events will fall like dominoes. The world's stage is poised
for these things to happen. The sounds
of hoof beats are heard on the horizon. America, you will be led into
a war; it won't be like the previous ones.
For they will be minor in comparison to this one. You think that you
have lost some freedoms now, but wait
to see what happens in the on-course of this one.

You have been warned repeatedly from the voices of my prophets. You
have been told of the breach of your
shores, and yet many of you still stand in complacency. Your forces
will be sent out, and the skirmishes will
begin. These things will rock the world's economy.

The eagles will fly, but few will take heed of their message. You
have been warned for preparedness.
Thus would say the spirit of the Lord."

Stephen Hanson

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