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!!! Updates on Nj toxic spill !!! North east look out

 
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In the past 9 hours the clarksboro county haexpanded it area of evacuation . Since the derailment there has been a heavy dense fog hovering over the south
East and .. The middle of thecountry.. And expect further evacuations don't be deluded into the the false sense of security we have . Infact ... The very fact that the US gov promised everything is going to be alright was just about enough to bug out right there ( they the biggest liars out there) and also suddenly there is a visious strain of flu breaking out in fog covered regions... The puzzle does seem to fit very effortlessly .,.
This is just so you're aware ... They have made this info barely public.. Yet it has currently affected 7 or more states ... So think about the new fasion accessory for the ...season is the disposable dust mask. Think about it .
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Interesting, the inspectors won't go near it, until it is cleaned up. Good catch OP, thanks for alerting us, don't know what else to say.....
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Interesting, the inspectors won't go near it, until it is cleaned up. Good catch OP, thanks for alerting us, don't know what else to say.....
 Quoting: Isis One


To think about it the season best gag gift ... Would be the dust masks .. Like lol but seriously here you might just need this if you live in jersey Philly Maryland Delaware dc raliegh charolette Detroit and the list continues ...
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Interesting, the inspectors won't go near it, until it is cleaned up. Good catch OP, thanks for alerting us, don't know what else to say.....
 Quoting: Isis One


To think about it the season best gag gift ... Would be the dust masks .. Like lol but seriously here you might just need this if you live in jersey Philly Maryland Delaware dc raliegh charolette Detroit and the list continues ...
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I hear you, things are pretty jacked lately.
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
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it's just a bit south of Philly

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The Priority List of Hazardous Substances
That Will Be the Subject of Toxicological Profiles

The ATSDR 2011 Substance Priority List
2011
RANK SUBSTANCE NAME TOTAL
POINTS 2007
RANK CAS RN
1 ARSENIC 1665.5 1 007440-38-2
2 LEAD 1529.1 2 007439-92-1
3 MERCURY 1460.9 3 007439-97-6
4 VINYL CHLORIDE 1361.1 4 000075-01-4
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The Priority List of Hazardous Substances
That Will Be the Subject of Toxicological Profiles

The ATSDR 2011 Substance Priority List
2011
RANK SUBSTANCE NAME TOTAL
POINTS 2007
RANK CAS RN
1 ARSENIC 1665.5 1 007440-38-2
2 LEAD 1529.1 2 007439-92-1
3 MERCURY 1460.9 3 007439-97-6
4 VINYL CHLORIDE 1361.1 4 000075-01-4
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8290716



Good info ... And top five .. Yeah this is being kept to quiet
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it's just a bit south of Philly

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It must have hit the Delaware , from the one car they mention containing the tons of toxic material alone would be harmful to say the least.
How many cars were carrying and how many had spillage in or around the sight.
With this odd dense fog it's to convenient way to convenient .
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Interesting, the inspectors won't go near it, until it is cleaned up. Good catch OP, thanks for alerting us, don't know what else to say.....
 Quoting: Isis One


To think about it the season best gag gift ... Would be the dust masks .. Like lol but seriously here you might just need this if you live in jersey Philly Maryland Delaware dc raliegh charolette Detroit and the list continues ...
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 Quoting: Indego


I hear you, things are pretty jacked lately.
 Quoting: Isis One



How many need be infected before they make a public announcement ... That's what would cause concern. The facts are all there and yet even with the sudden flu like outbreak ... Yakno something they were in the process of dispoing of toxic chemical supposedly responsible for the fungal meningitis outbreak .(very similar symptoms to flu initially ).. Would they have been transporting the hazardous material by train cargo ... Could that toxic material also be in the wreckage as part of the cargo?
If so wouldn't it stand to reason that the "flu" outbreak is something far worse....
I know ... But the logistics would co-inside ... And the dates of disposal .. I'd bet that there was something on that train they definitely don't want us to know about .
Not now , not just yet ...
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How many need be infected before they make a public announcement ... That's what would cause concern. The facts are all there and yet even with the sudden flu like outbreak ... Yakno something they were in the process of dispoing of toxic chemical supposedly responsible for the fungal meningitis outbreak .(very similar symptoms to flu initially ).. Would they have been transporting the hazardous material by train cargo ... Could that toxic material also be in the wreckage as part of the cargo?
If so wouldn't it stand to reason that the "flu" outbreak is something far worse....
I know ... But the logistics would co-inside ... And the dates of disposal .. I'd bet that there was something on that train they definitely don't want us to know about .
Not now , not just yet ...
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And to think that Sandy was just a month early.
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So this stuff is used to make PVC right?

How many GLPers have PVC in their homes? Shower curtains perhaps? Vinyl floor tiles? Maybe even your shoes?

The toxins are also in the final product, loosely bonded and and they are attracted to fat...like humans. That means when you touch PVC, it readily absorbs into you.

Plastic, it just keeps on giving.
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So this stuff is used to make PVC right?

How many GLPers have PVC in their homes? Shower curtains perhaps? Vinyl floor tiles? Maybe even your shoes?

The toxins are also in the final product, loosely bonded and and they are attracted to fat...like humans. That means when you touch PVC, it readily absorbs into you.

Plastic, it just keeps on giving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27791132



Not exactly , I'm not turning already paranoid and rightfully so people fuckin crazy ... Be responsible ....
No PVC is not going to kill you unless you grind it and snort it ... Or some dumb shut like that .
The fact is the chemicals involved in making the polymer PVC are highly toxic and dangerous. It's safe to say that severity of what happened in Nj is a nightmare logistically speaking. There are a number of reasons , one being pandamomium ... Civil break down etc. And that starts from fear. But truth is in this matter it would be justified , considering just the minimal facts that we do know,
Stick to the facts not the hypothetical allegations.
Fact is tons of extremely harmful chemicals have spilled into the Delaware river , it is affecting water supply and Eco system . This is a fact . Check the info ... Even better fund more the more we post on it the better aware we are to avoiding the infected areas.
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I'm confused by your writing...why are you saying it's affecting 7 states? How are you correlating the fog to this spill?
I am not trying to insult you but I really can't follow the way you write and I live not far from those possibly affected areas so I'd like more info...
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I'm confused by your writing...why are you saying it's affecting 7 states? How are you correlating the fog to this spill?
I am not trying to insult you but I really can't follow the way you write and I live not far from those possibly affected areas so I'd like more info...
 Quoting: Ollo


I'm confused by your writing...why are you saying it's affecting 7 states? How are you correlating the fog to this spill?
I am not trying to insult you but I really can't follow the way you write and I live not far from those possibly affected areas so I'd like more info...
 Quoting: Ollo


The was first noticed above the spill sight , it's kept teams away. And within 24 hours over seven states were covered in a thick desnse fog.
Think about it just for a minute , directly following the fog in the saw affected areas have a suspicious "flu" outbreak and it's being kept out of the news intentionally, that's why you have no clue
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The was first noticed ?

You are making this hard dude.
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I'm confused by your writing...why are you saying it's affecting 7 states? How are you correlating the fog to this spill?
I am not trying to insult you but I really can't follow the way you write and I live not far from those possibly affected areas so I'd like more info...
 Quoting: Ollo


I'm confused by your writing...why are you saying it's affecting 7 states? How are you correlating the fog to this spill?
I am not trying to insult you but I really can't follow the way you write and I live not far from those possibly affected areas so I'd like more info...
 Quoting: Ollo


The was first noticed above the spill sight , it's kept teams away. And within 24 hours over seven states were covered in a thick desnse fog.
Think about it just for a minute , directly following the fog in the saw affected areas have a suspicious "flu" outbreak and it's being kept out of the news intentionally, that's why you have no clue
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 Quoting: Indego


Suburbs N. of NYC here ...

Beautiful warm day. But air is very still and foggy. We've had a bit of light drizzle, but no strong wind or rain that would cleanse the area if the air had some bad stuff in it.

Haven't noticed any flu-like symptoms around here ... well my older son got them after a party on Friday, but I assume that was because of the party not the atmosphere.

I understand what OP is saying. And believe me, if I wanted to be a grammar nazi or spelling nazi, I'd be the champ of that!
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[link to www.washingtonpost.com]


In the past 9 hours the clarksboro county haexpanded it area of evacuation . Since the derailment there has been a heavy dense fog hovering over the south
East and .. The middle of thecountry.. And expect further evacuations don't be deluded into the the false sense of security we have . Infact ... The very fact that the US gov promised everything is going to be alright was just about enough to bug out right there ( they the biggest liars out there) and also suddenly there is a visious strain of flu breaking out in fog covered regions... The puzzle does seem to fit very effortlessly .,.
This is just so you're aware ... They have made this info barely public.. Yet it has currently affected 7 or more states ... So think about the new fasion accessory for the ...season is the disposable dust mask. Think about it .
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 Quoting: Indego


I'm in South/Central Coastal NJ, and there was a weird looking fog most of yesterday. Also, was listening to the news about the town this happened in, and the kids were being held in school, people were told not to leave their houses and to "shelter in place". Something's going on there.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Vinyl chloride is usually stored in liquid form and vaporizes under normal pressure. This forms a dense fog that is denser than air and goes down.
It is a toxic substance.
[link to www.epa.gov]
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Something to this here ... There are multiple towns and countries being evacuated. Paulsboro county clarksboro county are two definite evac counties neighboring and surrounding counties soon to follow. Be alert , considering the news is keeping this hush hush
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Vinyl chloride is usually stored in liquid form and vaporizes under normal pressure. This forms a dense fog that is denser than air and goes down.
It is a toxic substance.
[link to www.epa.gov]
 Quoting: EMPerror


Good intel.
That's exactly what they have been describing this fog as ... And considering amount of chemicals spilled and reacting to the atmosphere would result in a large grey cloud. That they already have told us and they've also informed us of the strange flu like virus that began circulating atfter the derailment andthe same time the "fog" was first reported.
This matter has yet to be contained in fact the crash site has yet to be properly investigated . The harmful ramifications could be lethal .
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Just to set the record straight, a dust mask is of no value against a chemical spill. They work on particulates. You need an industrial gas mask with dual filters. They are available from Mine Safety Appliances for one. If it were me and my loved ones in the affected counties I would leave until the fumes blew away. There are no safe limits for this chlorine compound. There is nothing in your home worth the health and life of you and your family. Just sayin...
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Most Paulsboro evacuees allowed to return home
11 hrs ago | Source: Philly.com | See Full Story

Most of the Paulsboro residents evacuated after a freight train carrying a toxic chemical derailed last week on a bridge over the Mantua Creek were allowed to return home Friday as cleanup of the wreckage entered what a top official called a less-risky phase.


This sounds well and good but, what are the lasting effects locally
And nationally. Are the reports going to be made public ?
Note the dense cloud has already formed and is still lingering .
Notice the outbreaks of flu like symptoms similar to the side effects experienced by locals in the regions south and west of the wreckage.
The tests they run now are going to dictate a (possible) fallout on a regional level . And how long it is goig to last.
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Just to set the record straight, a dust mask is of no value against a chemical spill. They work on particulates. You need an industrial gas mask with dual filters. They are available from Mine Safety Appliances for one. If it were me and my loved ones in the affected counties I would leave until the fumes blew away. There are no safe limits for this chlorine compound. There is nothing in your home worth the health and life of you and your family. Just sayin...
 Quoting: Dust masks... 679850


First some protection is better than none. And modify it with a crushed piece of charcoal in a wet rag ... Sure it'll be shallow breathing but they key word there is breathing .
Adapt to overcome
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