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To the athiests and agnostics I have a question.
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That's not evidence for even a monotheistic description of God. Let alone any specific one such as God described in the Bible or Allah in the Qu'ran.
If your argumentation can be used to provide "evidence" for the existence of a pantheon of gods (such as Hinduism or the Roman pantheon) then it is utterly pointless.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462 No it's not useless it simply isn't as simplistically definitive as you would like (a far to common fallacy of the empirically minded who like throw Occam at ever complex argument). To simply say it doesn't preclude the existence of other Gods in other religions so therefore it bunk, is completely unlogically dismissive of what it does say. I quite well pointed out that I thought the idea of God was completely unprovable. But that is different then saying there isn't evidence. I see far too many people claim "there is not one shred of evidence supporting the claim of God". It's not true. There is plenty of evidence. Plenty of historical evidence for most of the claims the bible makes. Can a reasonable argument be made for alternative explanations in most cases? Sure. But that by itself isn't falsification which is far too often the assumption. Uhm? Please show 1 contemporary non-Biblical piece of evidence or reference even of any supernatural occurrence that is described in the Bible. I understand what you are asking for but the evidence you "want" doesn't have to exist for there to be evidence. Dismissing the bible in kind is being dismissive of evidence that is available. It is perfectly reasonable especially given the date of the account that the bible is the only source. Not to mention that the bible isn't one source but actually an account written by multiple sources. It just happens to be compounded into one Volume. but since you asked for non-biblical here you go: Flavius Josephus (37-97 AD), court historian for Emperor Vespasian: " At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus. And his conduct was good and he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive; accordingly, he was perhaps the messiah concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders." (Arabic translation) He directly reports that there were Christians who in fact did claim that Jesus rose from the dead. You can be dismissive of these reports if you would like. You can come up with any number of reasonable explanations as to why they might say what they said. But the account remains evidence. You may not think they are very credible but they remain evidence despite your feelings on their credibility. Look up the word contemporary please (of which this is not an example). Nor does his testimony provide any reference to a supernatural act as described in the Bible (think darkness over all the land during the day for 3 hours at Jesus'es crucifixion as described in Mark 15:33).
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