OBAMA: There Won't Be A Debt Ceiling Negotiation This Time!!! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24957083 12/05/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the effective tax rate is over 100% because after you pay what they say, they say you still owe for 'your' piece of the national debt, and that happens to be more than you have, and likely more than you've ever made. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958 Thew will take what they can get with impled threats, and when that no longer works they'll show up with a truck and a locksmith and put you on the street if you cant come up with 2 mill cash. This is no joke. My friend has ended up in this bullshit from the IRS. Basically they said he made $50,000 somewhere and he didn't pay the IRS. He never had 50 grand and now they want him to pay more than what he makes a month, plus huge interest for late payment. They garnished his wages and he can barely even buy food on the table now. |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 29136456 12/05/2012 12:36 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ISO User ID: 26727474 12/05/2012 12:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do people still fall for this hook, line, and sinker? Last time around they hyped it up only to fizzle out in a compromise that nobody was happy with, but avoided the "cliff". Political points were tallied and we moved on. Here we are again, media is amping it up, setting the stage for Obama to look like a hero. How? By making it sound impossible to find a solution up until the last minute. That way when the inevitable "compromise" is agreed upon, Obama looks like a hero, and Boehner looks like an obstructionist who almost destroyed the country but the country was saved by Obama. That's the game being played here. That's all it is. If Obama can't trick Boehner into the compromise that will allow Obama to look like a hero, Obama will strongarm him, possibly threaten his family. That's the bottom line. We'll talk again about this. Obama is using this as a game to further deify himself with help from the media making it sound impossible to achieve. The Republicans are going to come out looking like obstructionist white man pigs no matter how far they compromise. That is also a fact. Boehner could say you know what? Fine...2 trillion in new taxes, and 5 dollars in cuts to programs, and the general public will believe that Obama achieved a great compromise despite the obstructionist Boehner. How do you think Obama got elected twice? The public was convinced that some warped description of what happened was reality. Fiscal Cliff? Might as well be a broadway production. |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 29136456 12/05/2012 12:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Business Insider‏@businessinsider Dow Now Up 130 After Reports Of Republican Defectors [link to read.bi] |
| Epic Beard Guy Constitutional Crusader User ID: 26240425 12/05/2012 12:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is not going to a debt ceiling negotiation, maybe the progressive repuglicans will grow a set of balls and tell him to stop giving away everything that we earn. It's time to take a stand. Everyone needs to write their senators and reps in Washington. Tell them 'NO MORE DEBT! CUT SPENDING AND BALANCE THE BUDGET! [link to www.senate.gov] [link to www.house.gov] Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
| Arial721 User ID: 24289757 12/05/2012 12:47 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He thinks he has a mandate becaues he got over 50% of the vote... but that inclues all the VOTER FRAUD where county after county had 100% VOTE for OBAMA ONLY.... like really... this was impossible. You can not tell me that out of thousands of vote NOT ONE did not show up or did not vote for him. Give me a FRICKEN BREAK. In addition that includes the voters who votes 2 or more times. So... he is so far out of it his ego just can not live in REALITY anymore. Last Edited by Sara13 on 12/05/2012 12:47 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29134812 12/05/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Outline.. Larger cuts and taxation, Gut SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Budget cut on military, social safety next will unravel. Food stamps and all those who depend on the Government Programs. Snap my fingers, here today gone tomorrow! Entitlements will be gone! Opening the door to destroy the safety net. Robbing our children! Peterson hedge fund to attack the SS, medicare and medicaid, CEO Wall Street driving this! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28918613 12/05/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOOD, let's have some fiscal sanity, reduce the size and scope of the federal government. Severe spending cuts are needed, then bring our troops home, use that savings to pay down the debt, legalize maryjane, tax it to eliminate the debt, then kick out the federal reserve, print our own money backed by us, get out of the United Nations and become what our forefathers envisioned. thanks |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 29136456 12/05/2012 12:50 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Business Insider‏@businessinsider REPORT: Several Republican 'Defectors' Sign Letter Endorsing Compromise On The Fiscal Cliff [link to read.bi] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29106373 12/05/2012 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Luis. He has scared many of us already. Now the markets...UGH. Pray for us. Quoting: abeliever I just moved from the midwest to the east coast. I was there for three years. Store after store, and restaurant after restaurant closed. It was sad to see this. More to come, I'm afraid. really? So it's like Europe countries now... all business closing! Yes it is scary..lots of businesses are just gone now..empty buildings empty malls.. Most Blockbuster stores gone. A lot of electronic stores gone. Fabric stores are rare and hard to find. Places we used to frequent are just sitting empty now. So it is like this in Europe too? That is scary. |
| OVRANALYZE User ID: 5527577 12/05/2012 01:03 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29134812 12/05/2012 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Luis. He has scared many of us already. Now the markets...UGH. Pray for us. Quoting: abeliever I just moved from the midwest to the east coast. I was there for three years. Store after store, and restaurant after restaurant closed. It was sad to see this. More to come, I'm afraid. really? So it's like Europe countries now... all business closing! Yes it is scary..lots of businesses are just gone now..empty buildings empty malls.. Most Blockbuster stores gone. A lot of electronic stores gone. Fabric stores are rare and hard to find. Places we used to frequent are just sitting empty now. So it is like this in Europe too? That is scary. I don't want to hi-jack this thread but your post gave me an idea. What if everyone posted pictures of their towns businesses closed down. I don't think people know how bad it is! I live in a affluent town with vacant stores everywhere. NO MORE DENIAL! Let us show the world the reality of RECESSION! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 12/05/2012 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Future Viewer User ID: 1344660 12/05/2012 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Business Insider‏@businessinsider Quoting: Luisport OBAMA: There Won't Be A Debt Ceiling Negotiation This Time by @brettlogiurato [link to read.bi] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, it would be good for country (USA) for "Fiscal Financial Cliff" to fall!. All the scam ass "Entitlement Peoples will have to fend for themselves. (Mostly Blacks, Latinos and Especially the con ass, fake, fraud, criminal certain types of Jews (not all), including the "Hasadic/Orthodox/Religious/Russian Jews" Bring it on and bring on "Martial Law" from the Looting, Robbing, Mugging, Attacking, Killing, that will come once many Entitlement/Welfare Funds get cut! Its about time.. The Real "Kronos"..(1957 Movie) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 12/05/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from FRANK KERRY 5pts Quoting: Luisport 9 minutes ago @John Huffman OBAMA,is acting like he won 48 states! someone needs to remind him,49% of us don't agree with his policies,the Republicans will get blamed for going over the cliff,but he won't come out untarnished,nor have decent relations with the other side,he's misguided! ShareFlag4LikeReply from TERRY NONGIVEN 5pts 5 minutes ago This is the danger of the second term and term limits - he has NOTHING to loose. He is gainfully employed for the next 4 years, guarenteed to loose his job after those 4 years, and from there on out, $1million speaking engagements. [link to www.marketwatch.com] Doesn't matter. His stance: "HE WON, we lost. GTFO" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1461756 12/05/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Renegade (Me too) User ID: 28510817 12/05/2012 01:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Luis. He has scared many of us already. Now the markets...UGH. Pray for us. Quoting: abeliever I just moved from the midwest to the east coast. I was there for three years. Store after store, and restaurant after restaurant closed. It was sad to see this. More to come, I'm afraid. Won't this raise the price of silver? Who is John Galt? |
| Renegade (Me too) User ID: 28510817 12/05/2012 01:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 12/05/2012 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Business Insider‏@businessinsider Quoting: Luisport OBAMA: There Won't Be A Debt Ceiling Negotiation This Time by @brettlogiurato [link to read.bi] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, it would be good for country (USA) for "Fiscal Financial Cliff" to fall!. All the scam ass "Entitlement Peoples will have to fend for themselves. (Mostly Blacks, Latinos and Especially the con ass, fake, fraud, criminal certain types of Jews (not all), including the "Hasadic/Orthodox/Religious/Russian Jews" Bring it on and bring on "Martial Law" from the Looting, Robbing, Mugging, Attacking, Killing, that will come once many Entitlement/Welfare Funds get cut! Its about time.. Yes, it sounds like a good idea, but the problem is, they won't let the "Entitlement Peoples" fail.....they'll just tax and tax those working and THEN SEND THEM TO JAIL FOR NOT PAYING TAXES if they refuse to fund his programs..... Eventually the whole system will fall because not enough people are working to support it, and then we are Greece, with thousands protesting in the streets, and everyone's lives in danger....while they figure out how to prop up the system for all those whiney-babies once again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16155040 12/05/2012 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| tandym User ID: 1667343 12/05/2012 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Business Insider‏@businessinsider Quoting: Luisport PETER SCHIFF: Eliminating The Debt Ceiling Would Be So Bad That It Could Be Good [link to read.bi] That is a REALLY GOOD article. Refreshingly unbiased. At first I thought it was going to swing left, then right, and in the end I was glad to see that the guy sees it and tells it like it is. |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 29136456 12/05/2012 01:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| tandym User ID: 1667343 12/05/2012 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kudos to them for keeping the wheels on for so long. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16155040 the fed is buying 90% of new debt by printing money, because there is no demand for fresh US debt.. we're in the final throes. in other news, I'll be buying more silver this week. Yepper. Its coming. 18 months or less is my bet. |
| JDSGUAM2 User ID: 15650562 12/05/2012 01:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17350972 12/05/2012 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| JDSGUAM2 User ID: 15650562 12/05/2012 01:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Business Insider‏@businessinsider Quoting: Luisport OBAMA: There Won't Be A Debt Ceiling Negotiation This Time by @brettlogiurato [link to read.bi] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, it would be good for country (USA) for "Fiscal Financial Cliff" to fall!. All the scam ass "Entitlement Peoples will have to fend for themselves. (Mostly Blacks, Latinos and Especially the con ass, fake, fraud, criminal certain types of Jews (not all), including the "Hasadic/Orthodox/Religious/Russian Jews" Bring it on and bring on "Martial Law" from the Looting, Robbing, Mugging, Attacking, Killing, that will come once many Entitlement/Welfare Funds get cut! Its about time.. Yes, it sounds like a good idea, but the problem is, they won't let the "Entitlement Peoples" fail.....they'll just tax and tax those working and THEN SEND THEM TO JAIL FOR NOT PAYING TAXES if they refuse to fund his programs..... Eventually the whole system will fall because not enough people are working to support it, and then we are Greece, with thousands protesting in the streets, and everyone's lives in danger....while they figure out how to prop up the system for all those whiney-babies once again. That is what I'm most concerned about! |
| T-Man User ID: 29080459 12/05/2012 01:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 7983171 12/05/2012 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 29136456 12/05/2012 01:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29147285 12/05/2012 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |