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OBAMA: There Won't Be A Debt Ceiling Negotiation This Time!!!

 
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the effective tax rate is over 100% because after you pay what they say, they say you still owe for 'your' piece of the national debt, and that happens to be more than you have, and likely more than you've ever made.

Thew will take what they can get with impled threats, and when that no longer works they'll show up with a truck and a locksmith and put you on the street if you cant come up with 2 mill cash.
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This is no joke. My friend has ended up in this bullshit from the IRS. Basically they said he made $50,000 somewhere and he didn't pay the IRS. He never had 50 grand and now they want him to pay more than what he makes a month, plus huge interest for late payment. They garnished his wages and he can barely even buy food on the table now.
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sarcasm: But if he does not pay his USA taxes we will go over the fiscal cliff. Most people dont know this, but the majority of government expenditures is related to military defense of the entire world.

If he does not pay his taxes, some billionaire defense contractor in US military industrial complex will unleash his armies from a bunker in the Ozark Mountains (see the newest conspiracy theory episode)

There is pretty much no way that a foriegn power could invade the USA. even if we had no military spending. The founding father made sure of that with the right to bear arms.

Yes ... instead ... we need to fear little, limp wristed, nerdy D.C. transplants to The ozark mountains who build walt disney world looking castles ... I think his name is Garson, but eventually Jesse will find out
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Interesting article but a bit of a misleading title.

I hope we are going to see a lot of threads on this subject in the very near future because this is going to be very interesting. Whichever decision will be made, it will have major consequences for most likely the lower- and middle class.

Obama said a rise in the debt ceiling would have to be a part of a deal to avert the so-called "fiscal cliff. In essence, I agree with that. Except, we already know they are going to f*** this up royally.

Exhibit A:
This morning, the U.S. Treasury outlined the so-called "McConnell Provision," which would change the debt ceiling not into something that has to be raised, but something that has to be voted against. Under the proposal, the debt ceiling would automatically rise unless Congress voted against it.
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OBAMA: There Won't Be A Debt Ceiling Negotiation This Time by @brettlogiurato [link to read.bi]
 Quoting: Luisport


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Actually, it would be good for country (USA) for "Fiscal Financial Cliff" to fall!. All the scam ass "Entitlement Peoples will have to fend for themselves. (Mostly Blacks, Latinos and Especially the con ass, fake, fraud, criminal certain types of Jews (not all), including the "Hasadic/Orthodox/Religious/Russian Jews"

Bring it on and bring on "Martial Law" from the Looting, Robbing, Mugging, Attacking, Killing, that will come once many Entitlement/Welfare Funds get cut! Its about time..

rant
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Yes, it sounds like a good idea, but the problem is, they won't let the "Entitlement Peoples" fail.....they'll just tax and tax those working and THEN SEND THEM TO JAIL FOR NOT PAYING TAXES if they refuse to fund his programs.....

Eventually the whole system will fall because not enough people are working to support it, and then we are Greece, with thousands protesting in the streets, and everyone's lives in danger....while they figure out how to prop up the system for all those whiney-babies once again.
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FAIL-> On your Jail/Prison Part. The USDOJ and Justice System broke down and not economically viable to lock people up anymore, unless 2 things-

#1 You kill the bad ass People in the Jails/Prisons.

#2 The White Rich People that do light crimes, you lock them up and charge them for incarceration.

But by these 2 parts, it basically says USDOJ and Justice Sytsem broke down, in both the Courts and Jails/Prisons, which basically says AmeriKa is done!

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The Chart That Obama Should Have Checked Before He Started Speaking [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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BINGO!
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Why do people still fall for this hook, line, and sinker?

Last time around they hyped it up only to fizzle out in a compromise that nobody was happy with, but avoided the "cliff". Political points were tallied and we moved on.

Here we are again, media is amping it up, setting the stage for Obama to look like a hero. How? By making it sound impossible to find a solution up until the last minute. That way when the inevitable "compromise" is agreed upon, Obama looks like a hero, and Boehner looks like an obstructionist who almost destroyed the country but the country was saved by Obama.

That's the game being played here. That's all it is. If Obama can't trick Boehner into the compromise that will allow Obama to look like a hero, Obama will strongarm him, possibly threaten his family. That's the bottom line.

We'll talk again about this. Obama is using this as a game to further deify himself with help from the media making it sound impossible to achieve. The Republicans are going to come out looking like obstructionist white man pigs no matter how far they compromise. That is also a fact. Boehner could say you know what? Fine...2 trillion in new taxes, and 5 dollars in cuts to programs, and the general public will believe that Obama achieved a great compromise despite the obstructionist Boehner.

How do you think Obama got elected twice? The public was convinced that some warped description of what happened was reality.

Fiscal Cliff? Might as well be a broadway production.
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Obama's poker face.
Who is John Galt?
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Is funny that the reptards are all scared ,,,why they dont mention the lost of monnies from gw??/ or the lost billions of rumfy???? humbag.
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Night Of The Long Knives: 'Fake' Conservative John Boehner Purges The GOP [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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If the Republicans actually have balls, the won't raise the debt ceiling, PERIOD!

Keep the debt ceiling unchanged, and force the government to not take any more debt.


But the Republicans are PUSSIES, and surely they will raise the debt ceiling!

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If the Republicans actually have balls, the won't raise the debt ceiling, PERIOD!

Keep the debt ceiling unchanged, and force the government to not take any more debt.


But the Republicans are PUSSIES, and surely they will raise the debt ceiling!

s226
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Everyone in the permanent political class are pussies. Passive aggressive wastrels in both parties. They get paid to create this drama. The tax code (anti-christ) and the beast (threat of war) is the story these actors cant get enough of playing the part.

Fix the tax code or fix the debt. Then civilization might move past these reruns. These actors will be forced to allocate money properly and come up with a new, compelling story to tell.

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WASHINGTON - The White House budget office has asked all federal agencies for information to finalize contingency plans for automatic spending cuts due to go into effect in January should the Obama administration fail to reach agreement to avert the reductions, the White House said on Wednesday.

[link to www.jpost.com]
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from FRANK KERRY 5pts
9 minutes ago @John Huffman OBAMA,is acting like he won 48 states!

someone needs to remind him,49% of us

don't agree with his policies,the Republicans

will get blamed for going over the cliff,but he

won't come out untarnished,nor have decent

relations with the other side,he's misguided!


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from TERRY NONGIVEN 5pts
5 minutes ago This is the danger of the second term and term limits - he has NOTHING to loose. He is gainfully employed for the next 4 years, guarenteed to loose his job after those 4 years, and from there on out, $1million speaking engagements.
[link to www.marketwatch.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


I still don't believe that 51% of the country voted for this man. Someone needs to remind him that we know he's not legitimate, and that he will be held accountable (for everything) in due time.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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John Houlehan 5pts
7 minutes ago "That is a bad strategy for America...and it is not a game I will play," Obama said.

But he is willing to play the game of the fiscal cliff only if tax rate increases and debt ceiling is lifted?

[link to www.marketwatch.com]
 Quoting: Luisport



He is insane and/or attempting to destroy the USA. Only and idiot or global crony would say the want no debt ceiling.

PEOPLE!! We and the gov't need to live within our means! Sure, help the ones who need some assistance but even that can be cut some. The main is insane. Soon if not already, we are like serfs, what is the point of trying to work, to save money and/or invest it, if the gov't is only going to tax you and waste it!
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MELTZER SAYS FED DOESN'T `REALLY HAVE A PLAN' TO EXIT STIMULUS. Hope for Intelligent and rich life on Alpha Centauri is a plan
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WASHINGTON - The White House budget office has asked all federal agencies for information to finalize contingency plans for automatic spending cuts due to go into effect in January should the Obama administration fail to reach agreement to avert the reductions, the White House said on Wednesday.

[link to www.jpost.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


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Yeah!, its called "Martial Law" when the Shit hits the fan, when the looting, robbing, mugging, killing, assaulting, starts..

Plus the FEMA and death Camps too! for the American Sheeple!.

Problem is, that when FDR came into Office, (Presidency), that's when AmeriKa died, but could go back as far as Woodrow Wilson with the Federal Reserve Creation (1913).

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I'm am now more flexible.
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WASHINGTON - The White House budget office has asked all federal agencies for information to finalize contingency plans for automatic spending cuts due to go into effect in January should the Obama administration fail to reach agreement to avert the reductions, the White House said on Wednesday.

[link to www.jpost.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah!, its called "Martial Law" when the Shit hits the fan, when the looting, robbing, mugging, killing, assaulting, starts..

Plus the FEMA and death Camps too! for the American Sheeple!.

Problem is, that when FDR came into Office, (Presidency), that's when AmeriKa died, but could go back as far as Woodrow Wilson with the Federal Reserve Creation (1913).

rant
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Thread: FEMA & Government getting ready for massive die off! cited: ‘Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act’

Thread: President Obama signs Executive Order allowing for control over all US resources

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I wish they allowed the debt ceiling of each individual to be raised too. I would incur debts in millions and then die without any progeny to f**k the Banksters.
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there also doing it old DUI,s trffic tickets etc. saying since we switched over to computers we have no record of u paying it so pay it twice community service pay for DWI classes or goto jail
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Wow, funny you posted about this.
This happened to me this year.
I went to renew my license in April.
They told me I couldn't because they said they didn't have a copy of my DUI school certificate from 22 years ago!
I had to do the DUI school (again) and 9 weeks of drug & alcohol counseling for my 22 year old crime that the court had destroyed the record of in 1993.
Cost me more than it did in 1990.
It was disgusting and I felt very violated, but they had me by the balls.
I was at their mercy and they showed none.
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I just received an email from a friend (yes one of those) who was passing on info about a global financial reset that is to occur before Christmas. I don't know if this will happen or not, but it may account for O's apparent lack of concern regarding the fiscal cliff.

Quote: We are about to have revealed to us a new financial system and a re-set jubilee once-off event. Barrack Obama was playing both sides in being a Trojan horse.

I wish. And so does probably everyone else.
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The House will not adjourn the 112th Congress until a credible solution to the fiscal cliff has been announced.
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The Artificial Fiscal Cliff is not Credible!
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"sequestration" define

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in debt TO WHO?

let's not negotiate with them, I agree

let's strap the cunts to nukes, and let them fly... ala...

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Boehner Says Obama’s Rejection of Spending Cuts Preventing Deal
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BOEHNER: Obama's 'own words confirm that the responsible proposal put forward by Republicans can be implemented' [link to read.bi]
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BOEHNER: Obama's 'own words confirm that the responsible proposal put forward by Republicans can be implemented' [link to read.bi]
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Why does your IP match DoorBerts?
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BOEHNER: Obama's 'own words confirm that the responsible proposal put forward by Republicans can be implemented' [link to read.bi]
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Why does your IP match DoorBerts?
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what maches with what???
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Obama Pledge

I pledge allegiance to the unions
And to civil unrest in America
And to the Republic
I plan to destroy
Two Nations
Under funded
Divided
With misery and poverty for all

“Barack Obama thinks his job is to lead the mob, not the country.”
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But it was Obama that called the congressional negotiators "hostage-takers" in the Bush tax cut debate December 2010 in the lame duck session.

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BOEHNER: Obama's 'own words confirm that the responsible proposal put forward by Republicans can be implemented' [link to read.bi]
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Why does your IP match DoorBerts?
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what maches with what???
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Your Ip bounces match Doorberts Ping Bounces... Do I really need to explain this to you or are you going to continue to play dumb.
Ron Paul or Bust
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BOEHNER: Obama's 'own words confirm that the responsible proposal put forward by Republicans can be implemented' [link to read.bi]
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Why does your IP match DoorBerts?
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


what maches with what???
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Your Ip bounces match Doorberts Ping Bounces... Do I really need to explain this to you or are you going to continue to play dumb.
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Interesting! Do I need to register to see IP addresses?

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