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OBAMA: There Won't Be A Debt Ceiling Negotiation This Time!!!

 
Luisport (OP)

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Business Insider‏@businessinsider

BOEHNER: Obama's 'own words confirm that the responsible proposal put forward by Republicans can be implemented' [link to read.bi]
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Why does your IP match DoorBerts?
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


what maches with what???
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Your Ip bounces match Doorberts Ping Bounces... Do I really need to explain this to you or are you going to continue to play dumb.
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i really don't know why some people think that me and doorbert are the same person, i'm portuguese living in fatima and he is american living i don't know where!!!
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Eric Cantor‏@GOPLeader

The House will not adjourn the 112th Congress until a credible solution to the fiscal cliff has been announced.
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The Artificial Fiscal Cliff is not Credible!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134812


"sequestration" define

[link to www.auburn.edu]
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Anyway.. Anyone have more on this new buzz word they are using for our military?

SEQUESTRATION
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Tell that to China ye dolt.
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Why does your IP match DoorBerts?
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


what maches with what???
 Quoting: Luisport


Your Ip bounces match Doorberts Ping Bounces... Do I really need to explain this to you or are you going to continue to play dumb.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


i really don't know why some people think that me and doorbert are the same person, i'm portuguese living in fatima and he is american living i don't know where!!!
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I don't know either. You are clearly two different personality types. HF
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what maches with what???
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Your Ip bounces match Doorberts Ping Bounces... Do I really need to explain this to you or are you going to continue to play dumb.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


i really don't know why some people think that me and doorbert are the same person, i'm portuguese living in fatima and he is american living i don't know where!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


I don't know either. You are clearly two different personality types. HF
 Quoting: J-Honey


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If I knew it would help the country i'd give half my paycheck for the rest of my life. But I know that It would make no difference if every working american did the same....so what if, the national debt was say 1 million dollars, what difference would it make in future generations. There is to much rampant greed and un filtered power in the world to make life what it should be, peaceful and free, all borders wide open to you and me. I believe 1 day the powers that be, whom make life miserable for the populous will see what they do they cannot sustain and freedom in humanity will be the only thing that will set humanity free. It is in the stars above and cannot be changed, it will happen one day.Back to our roots the land of the brave the land of the free, it need to be true to the world not just the U.S.A., without politics, without religion just with humanity:

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless,
Tempest-tossed to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame is the imprisoned lightning,
And her name, Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand glows world-wide welcome;
Her mild eyes command the air-bridged harbor
That twin cities frame.
"Keep, Ancient Lands, your storied pomp!"
Cries she with silent lips.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless,
Tempest-tossed to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
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Interesting article but a bit of a misleading title.

I hope we are going to see a lot of threads on this subject in the very near future because this is going to be very interesting. Whichever decision will be made, it will have major consequences for most likely the lower- and middle class.

Obama said a rise in the debt ceiling would have to be a part of a deal to avert the so-called "fiscal cliff. In essence, I agree with that. Except, we already know they are going to f*** this up royally.

Exhibit A:
This morning, the U.S. Treasury outlined the so-called "McConnell Provision," which would change the debt ceiling not into something that has to be raised, but something that has to be voted against. Under the proposal, the debt ceiling would automatically rise unless Congress voted against it.
 Quoting: [link to www.businessinsider.com]

 Quoting: Psych


They will never vote against Obama's budget again. It will always be tied to raising the debt ceiling.

Congress gets cut out altogether.

What what .... none dare call it treason.

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Thread: TOP CONSERVATIVE BLOG: Fire John Boehner!!!
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GOOD RIDDANCE AMERICA .. YOU SUCK!
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I'm going to have a field day when we assimilate Canada. I'm gonna watch hockey and get some of that sweet, sweet Canadian tail er... I mean whiskey. Go Maple Leafs!
"I applied my heart to know wisdom, to know madness and folly, I perceived that this also was a chasing at the wind. For in much wisdom is much grief. He who increaseth knowledge, also increaseth sorrow."
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4:08p
Geithner: Republicans must accept higher tax rates 4:07p
Geithner says budget talks making some progress [link to www.marketwatch.com]
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge

Tiny Tim: "Prepared to go over the Cliff unless rates go up"

2 minzerohedge‏@zerohedge

Reality show idea: Tim Geithner does his taxes on live tv.
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Never owned a company
Never ran a company
Never earned anything
Had everything handed to him
No business sense

And yet he is running the United States ?????


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Luisport (OP)

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Business Insider‏@businessinsider

GEITHNER: We're 'Absolutely' Prepared To Go Over The Cliff If Republicans Don't Cave On Tax Hikes by @brettlogiurato [link to read.bi]
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There will be a negotiation.

THERE IS ALWAYS ONE.
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12/05/2012 04:22 PM

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Why does your IP match DoorBerts?
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


what maches with what???
 Quoting: Luisport


Your Ip bounces match Doorberts Ping Bounces... Do I really need to explain this to you or are you going to continue to play dumb.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


i really don't know why some people think that me and doorbert are the same person, i'm portuguese living in fatima and he is american living i don't know where!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


IP Bouncing...

Google it
Ron Paul or Bust
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what maches with what???
 Quoting: Luisport


Your Ip bounces match Doorberts Ping Bounces... Do I really need to explain this to you or are you going to continue to play dumb.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


i really don't know why some people think that me and doorbert are the same person, i'm portuguese living in fatima and he is american living i don't know where!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


IP Bouncing...

Google it
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


I'm telling you that i'm not doorbert! Belive it or not!
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There will be a negotiation.

THERE IS ALWAYS ONE.
 Quoting: J-Honey


When the government comes to the end of the rope, their neck snaps. The rope isn't a bungee cord this time around.

They are truly fracked by all their past negotiation lies and cooked books.

These guys couldn't write a credible budget if their lives depended on it.

In the chasm we slide ... fake negotiation and all.

There is one big fat NOTHING at the end of the rainbow.
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What part of Credit responsibility do they not understand?

How can I be charge $25. for a one day late payment on a $36.00 charge on a credit card but they can run wild on borrowing, spending and laugh at all of us?
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Never owned a company
Never ran a company
Never earned anything
Had everything handed to him
No business sense

And yet he is running the United States ?????


 Quoting: Morpheus



Good point, but just to be fair, have you learned about the Republican VP candidate Paul Ryan?
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If the Republicans actually have balls, the won't raise the debt ceiling, PERIOD!

Keep the debt ceiling unchanged, and force the government to not take any more debt.


But the Republicans are PUSSIES, and surely they will raise the debt ceiling!

s226
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Everyone in the permanent political class are pussies. Passive aggressive wastrels in both parties. They get paid to create this drama. The tax code (anti-christ) and the beast (threat of war) is the story these actors cant get enough of playing the part.

Fix the tax code or fix the debt. Then civilization might move past these reruns. These actors will be forced to allocate money properly and come up with a new, compelling story to tell.


yoda
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I'm a writer, but have been around big politicians a little (yuck) knowing what little I do, what you wrote it the closest to bullseye that I've read.
truth has a shine to it. thank you
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Yes, Luis. He has scared many of us already. Now the markets...UGH. Pray for us.

I just moved from the midwest to the east coast. I was there for three years. Store after store, and restaurant after restaurant closed. It was sad to see this. More to come, I'm afraid.
 Quoting: abeliever


Midwest hasn't had significant infrastructure investment in 50 years. I drove thru and it looked the same as when I was a kid --THE SAME BUILDINGS, BRIDGES ETC. Nothing new.

East coast is a little better in that regard.

In his first term, recall Obama just wanted "shovel ready projects" which means nothing big or ambitious. He's made noises about doing some major infrastructure this time, and it is well past time to do so.
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If the Republicans actually have balls, the won't raise the debt ceiling, PERIOD!

Keep the debt ceiling unchanged, and force the government to not take any more debt.


But the Republicans are PUSSIES, and surely they will raise the debt ceiling!

s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26339407


Everyone in the permanent political class are pussies. Passive aggressive wastrels in both parties. They get paid to create this drama. The tax code (anti-christ) and the beast (threat of war) is the story these actors cant get enough of playing the part.

Fix the tax code or fix the debt. Then civilization might move past these reruns. These actors will be forced to allocate money properly and come up with a new, compelling story to tell.


yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28878214


I'm a writer, but have been around big politicians a little (yuck) knowing what little I do, what you wrote it the closest to bullseye that I've read.
truth has a shine to it. thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11946116


Yes, I agree too. Whenever I meet someone from DC, it's like they are in this clique and don't want to talk to outsiders -- even from NY!
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Let's just rise the debt limit to a gazzilliontrizzillion dollars!

ohappy

That's $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00​0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000​,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,​000

(unless I forgot some zeros)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29126824


Don't worry, because now you can just add a number and more zeroes later on if you need to... when you need to. No one seems to care anymore.

Can't wait to see the first 1 million dollar bill!
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Of course there wont be. do away with it then we wont know how much money them crooked politicians are spending that they dont have. what a crock of fucking shit. wake the fuck up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fuck him.

Don't raise the debt ceiling. Go over the fiscal cliff.

Laugh your ass off.
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I'd say we should go off the cliff. This fucker is out to destroy us anyway. There's a myriad of ways he can do it.
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hes a BUFOON
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Cut spending on everything across the board by 50% and lower taxes by 20%.

Stop printing money! End The Federal Reserve!

Frater
LVX!
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Ooo I'm almost afraid.
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Fucking dumb ass Canadians.
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Yes, tax rates should raise for everyone. Personally, I would prefer a national sales tax. But, I hope they leave the home deduction intact. For a long term fix, they are going to have to deal with Social Security and Medicare.

They also need to quit allowing government workers (which included military) to retire after 20 years. Vest them, but don't let them collect until they reach retirement age, which should be pushed to 70. I'm tired of seeing all these 40- year-olds retiring.

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