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ATTENTION ALL SMOKERS! Aussie Hypocrisy, Gross Pictures, Money and Morality

 
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ATTENTION ALL SMOKERS! Aussie Hypocrisy, Gross Pictures, Money and Morality
Whether Aussies like it or not, Australia has passed a law that requires all tobacco companies to ditch the iconic packaging that identifies them. Now all cigarettes will be packaged in a plain black box with grotesque pictures of the extreme effects of smoking with only plain text identifying the brand.


December 1st, 2012 Australia introduced a law that requires all tobacco companies to package their tobacco products in plain black boxes depicting photos of the extreme effects of smoking tobacco.

The stated reasons are to "strip the glamour that surrounds smoking and to hinder the youth from taking up the habit".

This is all well and good on the surface, but the plausible deniability only goes so far when you consider that cigarettes are still being sold and the Australian government is still raking in millions of dollars in taxes. It's like a prostitute on the corner still working their beat but wearing no makeup because prostitution is bad and she doesn't want to be accused of promoting prostitution.

But hey, people have their addictions, and packaging (nor makeup) will stop them from the end result: buying to feed the habit.

Here is the link to the new law:
[link to www.health.gov.au]

I'm an ex-smoker of 20 years and yeah, it's good for people to quit, but the HYPOCRISY here is so wet and drippy that it makes me wanna puke!


Where has truth gone?

Next on the chopping block will be electronic cigarettes I guess. When they get big enough to make a difference. And they will....

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It's coming to America soon. What do you guys think? Wanna have all your cig packs look the same? Wanna look at obviously overtly extreme pictures of the consequences of smoking?

I've lived ALL MY LIFE and NEVER have seen ANYONE that has suffered what these pictures depict as a result of smoking.

So isn't that LYING!

Regardless of how you feel and what you think their motives are... this is government control and it is SERIOUS HYPOCRISY!

How much are we going to take??

Damn, it just burns me up how they can do this and sit back smelling squeaky clean while they are still raking in the profits.

They KNOW no one will stop smoking from this. It just makes them LOOK like they are trying to hinder it.

Plus, when you tell someone to sit down, it MAKES THEM WANT TO STAND UP.

I say tobacco sales will only go UP from this move.

Who can disagree???
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More info on the matter.

HOW can they "reduce smoking related diseases" without killing the cow that provides their milk? LOL

Fuckin' pisses me off, mate!

TOBACCOTARDS UNITE!!!

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Quote from the video:

"The case is being watched by OTHER COUNTRIES... LOOKING TO EXPLORE SIMILAR MEASURES..."

But will they outright ban smokes? I DON'T think so!

C'mon GLP smokers. Sound off!

So smoking laws are part of the gubbermint taking more control of our freedoms?

If we just sit back and let them do this (health morality or not) it's no different than NDAA or body scanners.

Too bad the Aussies aren't up. I know they'd get the shits and jump in......

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Only Cigs or chew too?
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It's coming to America soon. What do you guys think?
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


I think it's good. In a few ways. And on the other hand, bullshit. Let me pick your post apart, so you can get a better understanding.

I can see it being a good thing being viewed from outside the box, seein how there are a shit ton of young kids smoking cigarettes, and if a cigarette pack with a bunch of disgusting images can visually impact a young persons thought or consideration towards smoking a tobacco cigarette. Good. One less person smoking, means 1 life saved. I'm all for it. However...the bad - People only live once. (YOLO) - It's their decision weather they want to smoke or what not. There's a fine line there. But you shouldn't try to come between what one human wants to do with their life by putting something in between what they want, that you think is necessary, because your against what they're doing. - That's my rant. My opinion, and thoughts.




I've lived ALL MY LIFE and NEVER have seen ANYONE that has suffered what these pictures depict as a result of smoking.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


I can't say I have, and they definitely went over board. Some of those photos don't even look like they could be from smoking!


Plus, when you tell someone to sit down, it MAKES THEM WANT TO STAND UP.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Like a teenager when their parents tell them not to smoke pot ^_^

I say tobacco sales will only go UP from this move.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Maybe...but I think not, statistics don't lie (disclaimer - I don't have any evidence to back that up). But AUS says their smoking has decreased since the imagery.

All in all...

Good post. Nuff' said.

My question is this, what the hell were they thinking? O_o
And why would this make tobacco sales go UP?

Last Edited by Riddle Lo on 12/05/2012 12:53 PM
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Only Cigs or chew too?
 Quoting: *Evan*


Well, the fact is that Oz doesn't sell dip (chew) here. They say that nicotine is a "class 6 poison" and for some dumbass reason they won't allow dip (chewing tobacco) to be sold here.

You know? I'm an American that married an Aussie and I used "dip" to quit smoking. Then I moved here and they don't sell it. So I had to import and they charge freakin' OUTRAGEOUS duties on it.

But I didn't want to go back to smoking. My rescue was e-cigs.... but mate... I was a smoker for 20 years and this shit is just ridiculous.

If they sold dip here, they would most def include it. I'm sure. We'd have circular tins with no brand logo and gross pictures of like peoples brains ooozing out of their mouth! LOL

It got me pissed off because it's such a lie. They get away with it too! The sheeple just think the gubb is so much out for their welfare and they can't see past

PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY

Does ANYONE know what that means??

It's the dirty secret behind all that's put out in the media.

If you know what that means you'll see through 99% of the shit that gets put out.


Look good while really having an evil agenda.

'Nuff said....


stfu
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Only Cigs or chew too?
 Quoting: *Evan*


Well, the fact is that Oz doesn't sell dip (chew) here. They say that nicotine is a "class 6 poison" and for some dumbass reason they won't allow dip (chewing tobacco) to be sold here.

You know? I'm an American that married an Aussie and I used "dip" to quit smoking. Then I moved here and they don't sell it. So I had to import and they charge freakin' OUTRAGEOUS duties on it.

But I didn't want to go back to smoking. My rescue was e-cigs.... but mate... I was a smoker for 20 years and this shit is just ridiculous.

If they sold dip here, they would most def include it. I'm sure. We'd have circular tins with no brand logo and gross pictures of like peoples brains ooozing out of their mouth! LOL

It got me pissed off because it's such a lie. They get away with it too! The sheeple just think the gubb is so much out for their welfare and they can't see past

PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY

Does ANYONE know what that means??

It's the dirty secret behind all that's put out in the media.

If you know what that means you'll see through 99% of the shit that gets put out.


Look good while really having an evil agenda.

'Nuff said....


stfu
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Wow, I did not know they didn't sell dip there.

I learned something new today. Also learned I will never be living there...
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Wow, I did not know they didn't sell dip there.

I learned something new today. Also learned I will never be living there...
 Quoting: *Evan*


Hahahahaaa... good on ya mate! So you dip? What brand? I LOVED Cope Long Cut Straight but the company that imported it always sent me dip that was out of date or almost out of date.

Much more satisfied with ecigs and have gotten into e-dripping. You can get e-liquid that is like 54mg and it's bangin' because there's no chems or bad shit.

But Oz is pretty cool, just avoid the Yobbos. You know, the ones that act like they have brain rot and are perennially angry at anything anyone says.

Socialistic? Yes, but it still "feels" for free than the States. Maybe that's a deception though and maybe that's why Aussies seem to be so asleep.

A 9/11 incident in Australia might wake them up. But God I hope that never happens!!!
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It's coming to America soon. What do you guys think?
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


I think it's good. In a few ways. And on the other hand, bullshit. Let me pick your post apart, so you can get a better understanding.

I can see it being a good thing being viewed from outside the box, seein how there are a shit ton of young kids smoking cigarettes, and if a cigarette pack with a bunch of disgusting images can visually impact a young persons thought or consideration towards smoking a tobacco cigarette. Good. One less person smoking, means 1 life saved. I'm all for it. However...the bad - People only live once. (YOLO) - It's their decision weather they want to smoke or what not. There's a fine line there. But you shouldn't try to come between what one human wants to do with their life by putting something in between what they want, that you think is necessary, because your against what they're doing. - That's my rant. My opinion, and thoughts.




I've lived ALL MY LIFE and NEVER have seen ANYONE that has suffered what these pictures depict as a result of smoking.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


I can't say I have, and they definitely went over board. Some of those photos don't even look like they could be from smoking!


Plus, when you tell someone to sit down, it MAKES THEM WANT TO STAND UP.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Like a teenager when their parents tell them not to smoke pot ^_^

I say tobacco sales will only go UP from this move.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Maybe...but I think not, statistics don't lie (disclaimer - I don't have any evidence to back that up). But AUS says their smoking has decreased since the imagery.

All in all...

Good post. Nuff' said.

My question is this, what the hell were they thinking? O_o
And why would this make tobacco sales go UP?
 Quoting: Riddle Lo



Intelligent post.

The reason sales will go up is the fact of human nature. You take something away and the masses will WANT IT MORE.

Look at alcohol prohibition or how many potheads are clamouring for legalization.

SAME CONCEPT.

They know what they are doing. They come out smelling clean and yet have an evil agenda.

If you think I'm wrong, state YOUR case!
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OMG... was looking for a video of PISSED OFF SMOKERS and found THIS on YouTube! LOLOL!

Funny as shit!

Give the girl a GLP boost. She only has 77 views...

Bet she never knew it would be POSTED to the craziest forum on the net when she uploaded this. LOLOL



That's YouTube for ya. Ya never know WHAT YA GONNA GET!!
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Intelligent post.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Thanks rockon


Look at alcohol prohibition or how many potheads are clamouring for legalization.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric



You simply can't put a disgusting image on marijuana, packaged or not, maybe just in a baggy, easily a good debate, but what they did to the cigarettes was wrong. If it were weed though....I wouldn't care, I'd still smoke it. - Not that I do, but #justsayin

It's safe to say that this could easily piss off a very large amount of people, it's like fucking with someones money, weather you colored on the dollar bill, stole it, gave it to someone, shoved it in a pile of feces, w.e doesn't matter. Your still fucking with it. (I don't like people fuckin with my money) We'll...they're going to tick off a few thousand *cough* million *cough* people with this stunt. For it or not.....I see it from both sides, so I can't really have much further of an intelligent conversation. I can justify, and I can disagree as well. Just depends on how I'm feeling HA!





If you think I'm wrong, state YOUR case!
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


You're both. Right and Wrong lol

If you still smoked cigarettes what would you do personally, from your perspective, since you live there. If you STILL smoked tobacco cigs, how would this impact you? There are still cigarettes in the pack. lol

What's up with these e-cigs that ur talking about?

What if they put images like this on those!! HAHAHA!! That'd fuck with you ay?


-BTW-

That video was annoying as hell! Shame on her!

Left me thinking wtf

Last Edited by Riddle Lo on 12/05/2012 01:44 PM
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Whatever. As Dennis Leary said in his No Cure For Cancer routine, they could put them in an all black package, make the warning take up half the package, call them "Tumors," and we'd still smoke 'em.

I was recently in NYC where a pack of Marlboros is $12, and saw people smoking all over the place. Of course, they're probably having them mailed from Indian casinos, but there they were, in Bloomberg's mecca of health and fitness, puffing away on 60 cents/each cigarettes, ironically right next to Baruch College's bullshit nanny signs announcing their smoke free campus "Clean Zone."

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Intelligent post.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Thanks rockon


Look at alcohol prohibition or how many potheads are clamouring for legalization.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric



You simply can't put a disgusting image on marijuana, packaged or not, maybe just in a baggy, easily a good debate, but what they did to the cigarettes was wrong. If it were weed though....I wouldn't care, I'd still smoke it. - Not that I do, but #justsayin

It's safe to say that this could easily piss off a very large amount of people, it's like fucking with someones money, weather you colored on the dollar bill, stole it, gave it to someone, shoved it in a pile of feces, w.e doesn't matter. Your still fucking with it. (I don't like people fuckin with my money) We'll...they're going to tick off a few thousand *cough* million *cough* people with this stunt. For it or not.....I see it from both sides, so I can't really have much further of an intelligent conversation. I can justify, and I can disagree as well. Just depends on how I'm feeling HA!





If you think I'm wrong, state YOUR case!
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


You're both. Right and Wrong lol

If you still smoked cigarettes what would you do personally, from your perspective, since you live there. If you STILL smoked tobacco cigs, how would this impact you? There are still cigarettes in the pack. lol

What's up with these e-cigs that ur talking about?

What if they put images like this on those!! HAHAHA!! That'd fuck with you ay?


-BTW-

That video was annoying as hell! Shame on her!

Left me thinking wtf
 Quoting: Riddle Lo



Dude, I don't even smoke the cancer sticks anymore and this shit pissed me off.

They start messin' with my ecigarettes and....


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I missed the Aussies. I know if I posted this during the Aussies "awake" hours, this would have been more relevant.

So much for being a night owl.

Wake up Australia!!

LOL
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Fucking ridiculous.
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It's sad that Australia has become so "hypocritical" as you put it.
I lean towards the belief that white Australia can only blame itself, in that respect, for letting SO many Maltese people into the country; big-time hypocrites—as are many other non-white immigrunts.

As for you complaining about the Australian government forcing cigarrette manufacturers to re-package their products??? SO WHAT? WHY SHOULDN'T IT???

My advice to all you government-bashers, is to STOP over-analyzing and just have a healthy dose of cynicism towards all these (government "initiatives") things. They've done their homework—YEARS-AGO!!!!!
Their finance gurus told them that taking these "drastic" measures will reap bigger profits in terms of smoking-related cancer treatments, early retirements, versus taxes made directly from cigarrette sales!

Do I make sense in da' house???...

AMEN!
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It's sad that Australia has become so "hypocritical" as you put it.
I lean towards the belief that white Australia can only blame itself, in that respect, for letting SO many Maltese people into the country; big-time hypocrites—as are many other non-white immigrunts.

As for you complaining about the Australian government forcing cigarrette manufacturers to re-package their products??? SO WHAT? WHY SHOULDN'T IT???

My advice to all you government-bashers, is to STOP over-analyzing and just have a healthy dose of cynicism towards all these (government "initiatives") things. They've done their homework—YEARS-AGO!!!!!
Their finance gurus told them that taking these "drastic" measures will reap bigger profits in terms of smoking-related cancer treatments, early retirements, versus taxes made directly from cigarrette sales!

Do I make sense in da' house???...

AMEN!
 Quoting: TruthAddict 29155891


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Whatever. As Dennis Leary said in his No Cure For Cancer routine, they could put them in an all black package, make the warning take up half the package, call them "Tumors," and we'd still smoke 'em.

chuckle
 Quoting: ReVbo™


Freak man, I couldn't have put it better myself!

So true, and this is why they did it.

Do you REALLY think they would do this if it would HURT SALES..... thereby killing the TAX money they get???

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