7-year-old boy was beaten to death by his parents last week after he failed to read the Bible and do his homework

Yes, you are obviously another blind person that can't see. And lol @ this,

"You appear to be a judaizer."

Tell me, was Yeshua and the Apostles also Judaizers? Total crap. You appear to be another lawless apostate Lutheran Pauline anti-Christ. And Saul was not an Apostle, he was not one of the 12 recorded in the Bible as Apostles. I mean, how could he, he never even met Yeshua. And no, I will not play the fool and call the Messiah a stupid name like Jesus. His name was Yeshua. Jesus is Greek, he was Hebrew. I have very little patience for your sort. You and your ilk will have no excuse on the day of Judgement. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to the way.

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars. Revelation 2:2

I wonder who Yeshua was alluding to here.

Last Edited by TheSeventhGate on 12/05/2012 03:49 PM

What could be more terrifying.

The Law of Moses he wrote in a book and placed it inside the Ark of the Covenant. God's 10C law was written by God's finder in stone and was then placed inside the Ark. Two different laws.

Jesus explains to a disciple:

Mt.19:16 "And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. He said to him, Which? Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

The disciple asked, which law, not knowing if Jesus meant the law of Moses or God's 10C law. Then Jesus names a few to explain which law.

Then we are told exactly what was 'nailed to the cross' in Col 2:14-17 (KJV) - the sacrificial system that was a shadow of the coming Messiah.

Bit more here:

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Law of Moses vs.
God's Ten Commandments
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It is obvious that you are not saved and do not belong to Christ. You are a judaizer. You follow a false religion, and a "Jesus" of your own making.

Good explanation! Thanks for providing it.

They could have lied about the reasons they killed him. There may not have been a reason at all. Maybe the boy pointed out their faults and they didn't want to hear it... kids are honest.

Seven, That was meant to say: The Law of Moses he wrote in a book and placed it in the side of the Ark of the Covenant, while God's 10C Law tablets were placed in the Ark.

But you seem to have bigger problems if you deny Paul was accepted by all the early Christians as an Apostle anointed by Jesus.

Poor little boy :( kids don't deserve this and all because of a book i can imagine him crying wishing someone would get him the helk out of there. Parents are supposed to protect love and cherish children. This man and woman need to be introduced to Inquisition style tortue big time if they love there bible so much.

See.....this week its not listening, next week its something else and it snowballs.....you all know how that goes.
You learn this in that bible, it says that if your kids do not obey......and it says kids should hate their parents and slaves should listen to their masters.
Remember the bald man in there who the kids made fun of? Yep, Yahweh says kill 'em!!!!
Then you wonder why this chit happens.....ooookkkkkaaaaayyyyy!

25,000 die every day from hunger and there is none that morn them, ..... just sayin....

Reading shit like this just makes me sad.

Not so. The 'ten Commandments' come from the Law of Moses, the Torah. And there is no reference to them as the ten Commandments found in the Hebrew Bible, it was a mistranslation. They are called the ten statements.

See here.

For some reason, many people have the impression that there are only ten commandments. Everyone has heard of the "Ten Commandments," or at least they've heard of the movie.

I'll tell you a secret. There's no such thing!

Nowhere in the Torah is the phrase "ten commandments" used at all. When referring to these ten, the Torah always calls them the Aseres Had'vorim, the "Ten Statements," or the "Ten Words." In Aramaic, that comes out as "Aseres Hadibros," which is what we usually call them. It means the same thing: the "Ten Statements."

The Hebrew words for "Ten Commandments" would be "Aseres Hamitzvos." But no such term exists anywhere in the Torah or in Rabbinical Writings. Anywhere.

However, in Exodus 34:28, the King James' Bible uses the term "ten commandments" to translate the phrase, which is absolutely incorrect.

The original Hebrew, however, doesn't say that. The Hebrew says "Ten Statements." The same is true in Deuteronomy 4:13 and 10:14.

So get this: Millions of people in the world are confused because of a poor translation in the King James' Bible. They all think that when the Torah refers to "doing Hashem's Commandments," the Torah is referring to those Ten Statements that Hashem spoke at Mount Sinai, and no more! And the truth is, they're wrong!

To be sure, the Ten Statements are also Commandments. They are ten of the 613 Commandments of the Torah. Also, they represent ten categories of Commandments, which means that all the 613 can be represented by those ten, but there are far more than ten Commandments in the Torah. (The reason Hashem made those Ten Statements will be discussed, Hashem willing, in another article, possibly on the Holiday Gateway for Shavuos. No promise.)

So there are actually 613 Commandments in the Torah, but as I have shown above, most of them don't apply to most people.

So what are those Commandments? Well, I hope to get to that too, Hashem willing. But first, I hope to discuss more about the Jewish relationship with G-d.


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And to this.

"The disciple asked, which law, not knowing if Jesus meant the law of Moses or God's 10C law. Then Jesus names a few to explain which law."

No he didn't ask which Law, he was asking which Commandments to follow.

Mt.19:16 "And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. He said to him, Which? Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

A person of Christ that has very little patience...interesting. This entire forum is flooded full of sin and for every one person that is in TRUE UNION...there are close to 100 that are here on mission to push their own selfish ego driven agenda of Atheism.

I would rather die from hunger than torture.... just sayin

It is people like you who will hear these words from Yeshua.

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

there is not a single Bible quote in my post, only supportive citations

you are ashamed that your absurd, evil religion of yourself as a living god has been made manifest

you believe you are god...talk about insane

True if your IQ is over 80, people normally don't fall for the religous crap.

I don't care what the early Christians thought or followed, just what Yeshua the Messiah and the Apostles taught and anyone that goes counter to that is an anti-Christ and they are many.

Not true at all, truly intelligent people know there must be a God, it's only logical.

A factor that has been negated is the fact that the man involved was a "step parent". 80% of step parents HATE their spouses children! I mean HATE. You always see scenario's like this. Abuse involving the mothers boyfriend, or the fathers girlfriend so on and so forth...

I don't care what any of you say...it's a factor here. All you single and remarried women with children...watch out! I know, I know..."he's a good guy", or "he's not like that"...bleh!

Watch'em!!!!!!!!!!!

The true Christians...not the ones that go through the motions but then lead a double life...the real ones are out numbered by probably 100,000:1 if not even MORE! I pull those numbers out of thin air but it just shows how chalked full of sin our entire society has become. To disregard and see the physical as the reality and to dismiss the spirit is to be in Sin. Everything is of Gods creation...and you must look with eyes that see God IN ALL.

How about the dietary laws that got turfed?

Ac:10:11:
And saw heaven opened,
and a certain vessel descending unto him,
as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners,
and let down to the earth:
Ac:10:12:
Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth,
and wild beasts,
and creeping things,
and fowls of the air.
Ac:10:13:
And there came a voice to him,
Rise,
Peter;
kill,
and eat.
Ac:10:14:
But Peter said,
Not so,
Lord;
for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Ac:10:15:
And the voice spake unto him again the second time,
What God hath cleansed,
that call not thou common.

The 10 Commandments made it through fully intact.

Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas:2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
Jas:2:11:
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Jas:2:15:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
Jas:2:16:
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Jas:2:17:
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.

That would be one and the same.

give it a rest with the scripture already, FFS

It would also see the woman loved a stranger more than she loved her own child. I've raised my step-grandson since he was a month old, never once felt like beating him.

I don't need a god to tell me how to behave...what's good or bad...I KNOW instinctively what the results of my actions will be. FFS! A child screaming as an adult beats, bombs, shoots, mutilates and does whatever adults do in the year 2013 for whatever personal reasons and satisfaction the 'Adult' derives from such behavior says, just by looking, that we are devolving somehow...We are becoming advanced insects...with a Queen showing the way.

Last Edited by Lips Of Lucifer on 12/05/2012 04:12 PM

That is horrible, fucking religion takes yet another life.

look in the mirror

It's an important discussion. SeventhGate rejects NT Christianity, and follows a weird judaized religion. He needs to be reached.

Don't they appear as a different unreadable language to you?