7-year-old boy was beaten to death by his parents last week after he failed to read the Bible and do his homework

Seven, That was meant to say: The Law of Moses he wrote in a book and placed it in the side of the Ark of the Covenant, while God's 10C Law tablets were placed in the Ark.

But you seem to have bigger problems if you deny Paul was accepted by all the early Christians as an Apostle anointed by Jesus.

Poor little boy :( kids don't deserve this and all because of a book i can imagine him crying wishing someone would get him the helk out of there. Parents are supposed to protect love and cherish children. This man and woman need to be introduced to Inquisition style tortue big time if they love there bible so much.

See.....this week its not listening, next week its something else and it snowballs.....you all know how that goes.
You learn this in that bible, it says that if your kids do not obey......and it says kids should hate their parents and slaves should listen to their masters.
Remember the bald man in there who the kids made fun of? Yep, Yahweh says kill 'em!!!!
Then you wonder why this chit happens.....ooookkkkkaaaaayyyyy!

25,000 die every day from hunger and there is none that morn them, ..... just sayin....

Reading shit like this just makes me sad.

Not so. The 'ten Commandments' come from the Law of Moses, the Torah. And there is no reference to them as the ten Commandments found in the Hebrew Bible, it was a mistranslation. They are called the ten statements.

See here.

For some reason, many people have the impression that there are only ten commandments. Everyone has heard of the "Ten Commandments," or at least they've heard of the movie.

I'll tell you a secret. There's no such thing!

Nowhere in the Torah is the phrase "ten commandments" used at all. When referring to these ten, the Torah always calls them the Aseres Had'vorim, the "Ten Statements," or the "Ten Words." In Aramaic, that comes out as "Aseres Hadibros," which is what we usually call them. It means the same thing: the "Ten Statements."

The Hebrew words for "Ten Commandments" would be "Aseres Hamitzvos." But no such term exists anywhere in the Torah or in Rabbinical Writings. Anywhere.

However, in Exodus 34:28, the King James' Bible uses the term "ten commandments" to translate the phrase, which is absolutely incorrect.

The original Hebrew, however, doesn't say that. The Hebrew says "Ten Statements." The same is true in Deuteronomy 4:13 and 10:14.

So get this: Millions of people in the world are confused because of a poor translation in the King James' Bible. They all think that when the Torah refers to "doing Hashem's Commandments," the Torah is referring to those Ten Statements that Hashem spoke at Mount Sinai, and no more! And the truth is, they're wrong!

To be sure, the Ten Statements are also Commandments. They are ten of the 613 Commandments of the Torah. Also, they represent ten categories of Commandments, which means that all the 613 can be represented by those ten, but there are far more than ten Commandments in the Torah. (The reason Hashem made those Ten Statements will be discussed, Hashem willing, in another article, possibly on the Holiday Gateway for Shavuos. No promise.)

So there are actually 613 Commandments in the Torah, but as I have shown above, most of them don't apply to most people.

So what are those Commandments? Well, I hope to get to that too, Hashem willing. But first, I hope to discuss more about the Jewish relationship with G-d.


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And to this.

"The disciple asked, which law, not knowing if Jesus meant the law of Moses or God's 10C law. Then Jesus names a few to explain which law."

No he didn't ask which Law, he was asking which Commandments to follow.

Mt.19:16 "And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. He said to him, Which? Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

A person of Christ that has very little patience...interesting. This entire forum is flooded full of sin and for every one person that is in TRUE UNION...there are close to 100 that are here on mission to push their own selfish ego driven agenda of Atheism.

I would rather die from hunger than torture.... just sayin

It is people like you who will hear these words from Yeshua.

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

there is not a single Bible quote in my post, only supportive citations

you are ashamed that your absurd, evil religion of yourself as a living god has been made manifest

you believe you are god...talk about insane

True if your IQ is over 80, people normally don't fall for the religous crap.

I don't care what the early Christians thought or followed, just what Yeshua the Messiah and the Apostles taught and anyone that goes counter to that is an anti-Christ and they are many.

Not true at all, truly intelligent people know there must be a God, it's only logical.

The true Christians...not the ones that go through the motions but then lead a double life...the real ones are out numbered by probably 100,000:1 if not even MORE! I pull those numbers out of thin air but it just shows how chalked full of sin our entire society has become. To disregard and see the physical as the reality and to dismiss the spirit is to be in Sin. Everything is of Gods creation...and you must look with eyes that see God IN ALL.

How about the dietary laws that got turfed?

Ac:10:11:
And saw heaven opened,
and a certain vessel descending unto him,
as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners,
and let down to the earth:
Ac:10:12:
Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth,
and wild beasts,
and creeping things,
and fowls of the air.
Ac:10:13:
And there came a voice to him,
Rise,
Peter;
kill,
and eat.
Ac:10:14:
But Peter said,
Not so,
Lord;
for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Ac:10:15:
And the voice spake unto him again the second time,
What God hath cleansed,
that call not thou common.

The 10 Commandments made it through fully intact.

Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas:2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
Jas:2:11:
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Jas:2:15:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
Jas:2:16:
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Jas:2:17:
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.

That would be one and the same.

give it a rest with the scripture already, FFS

It would also see the woman loved a stranger more than she loved her own child. I've raised my step-grandson since he was a month old, never once felt like beating him.

I don't need a god to tell me how to behave...what's good or bad...I KNOW instinctively what the results of my actions will be. FFS! A child screaming as an adult beats, bombs, shoots, mutilates and does whatever adults do in the year 2013 for whatever personal reasons and satisfaction the 'Adult' derives from such behavior says, just by looking, that we are devolving somehow...We are becoming advanced insects...with a Queen showing the way.

Last Edited by Lips Of Lucifer on 12/05/2012 04:12 PM

That is horrible, fucking religion takes yet another life.

look in the mirror

It's an important discussion. SeventhGate rejects NT Christianity, and follows a weird judaized religion. He needs to be reached.

Don't they appear as a different unreadable language to you?

John 1:1 Eccl. 12:13
You posted it, not me.

Evil religion of myself?
I didn't even tell you what I believe personally, only spoke about moral good and bad.
Love vs hurting etc.

Once again.. I STUDY the reality I'm apart of!

LOL, no

true,!!!

They weren't turfed for Yeshua and all the Apostles kept the Law on eating clean foods.


Acts 10 tells about Peter�s vision of a great sheet descending from heaven. The sheet is filled with unclean animals, and a voice says, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." Peter says, "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."

This was many years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection. If Yeshua had "declared all foods clean" several years earlier, Peter certainly didn�t know anything about it! Yet many Christians believe that God sent this vision to tell Peter that He had "changed His mind" about the dietary laws, and abolished them. However, the context shows that the vision had nothing at all to do with a change in God�s dietary laws.

The message of the vision was that God was cleansing the Gentiles through their faith in the Messiah, and God wanted these Gentiles to be part of the body of Messiah, a body which at this time consisted of only native-born Jews and of proselytes who had undergone a full, formal conversion to Judaism. The unclean animals in the sheet were symbolic of the Gentile nations. This kind of symbolism would not have seemed unusual to Peter, a Jew who was familiar with the Scriptures. In the writings of the Prophets, the Gentile nations are symbolized by unclean animals such as the eagle, the lion, the bear, and the leopard. (See Ezekiel 17 and Dan. 7).

To properly understand Peter�s vision, we must put ourselves in Peter�s shoes. Like the Messiah he followed, Peter was a Torah-observant man. He knew God had clearly commanded His people to not eat certain animals. This is why he said, "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."

To put yourself in Peter�s shoes, imagine that you, as a born-again Christian man, go into a trance and see a great sheet let down from heaven. The sheet is filled with naked women. You hear a voice address you by name and say, "Arise, take and commit adultery!"

Like Peter, you would be taken aback by such a vision, because you know that the Scriptures dearly forbid such an act. The only conclusion you could draw from such a vision would be: a) it is of the devil; or b) it is of the Lord, but certainly not meant to be taken in a literal sense.

When the messengers of Cornelius arrived, Peter understood that the vision was indeed from the Lord. The fact that these men were Gentiles led Peter to understand the true meaning of the vision: "God hath shown me that I should call no MAN common or unclean" (Acts 10:28). Peter�s explanation makes it clear that the vision was meant to be understood in a figurative sense.

Peter had the brains to know that God would not command him to do something that the Scriptures clearly forbid. Peter understood that the vision had nothing at all to do with a change in the dietary laws; it was God�s way of showing Peter His intention to graft the Gentiles into the commonwealth of Israel through their faith in Israel�s Messiah. And those grafted into Israel should obey the commandments which God gave to Israel.


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Last Edited by TheSeventhGate on 12/05/2012 04:25 PM

your entire post reeks of lies and shame

you claim to study reality by listening to a pair of godless wizards babble and
believing in your own paltry intellect

try studying the Word of God, your Creator

the soul you save could be your own

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men
loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. (John 3:19)

look at this red karma i got...

"Stupid has nothing to do with Religion. What;s your excuse? Your parents as dumb as you?"

WTF does that even mean? lol, good grief.

Who knows.....who cares.....lol you got to someone though.....that's what matters!!!

I got a fun red one too.