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"Wake up America" is republitard for "if you voted for Romney this wouldn't happen."

What a bunch of tards
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wrong again with your nonsense didn't vote for romney and not a republican. I vote with my head and for america dumbass. You might make your quota today if you try hard enough shill
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Now everyone, take a breath and a step back.

The politicians on both sides are going to play this in order to work you all up and then at the last minute will work something out to make themselves look grand.

It's just a shell game inside a dog and pony show.

Frater
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There is absolutely nothing they can do to look good in my eyes.

Just so sick of the BS.
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Agreed, I don't like them either.
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Just STOP. STOP participating in the scam. Claim ten dependents and in essence tell them to go fuck themselves. EVERYBODY just stop.
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
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As has been widely reported all over MSM, that has already happened and will continue to happen.

No rocket science there.
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Scenario 1: Tax cuts under the extension of the Bush-era tax cuts for all






Rate

Single Filers

Married Joint Filers

Head of Household Filers



10%

$0 to $8,950

$0 to $17,900

$0 to $12,750



15%

$8,950 to $36,250

$17,900 to $72,500

$12,750 to $48,600



25%

$36,250 to $87,850

$72,500 to $146,400

$48,600 to $125,450



28%

$87,850 to $183,250

$146,400 to $223,050

$125,450 to $203,150



33%

$183,250 to $398,350

$223,050 to $398,350

$203,150 to $398,350



35%

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up
Scenario 2: Tax brackets under the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts for all






Rate

Single Filers

Married Joint Filers

Head of Household Filers



15%

$0 to $36,250

$0 to $60,550

$0 to $48,600



28%

$36,250 to $87,850

$60,550 to $146,400

$48,600 to $125,450



31%

$87,850 to $183,250

$146,400 to $223,050

$125,450 to $203,150



36%

$183,250 to $398,350

$223,050 to $398,350

$203,150 to $398,350



39.60%

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up


Scenario 3: Tax brackets under the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts for high-income






Rate

Single Filers

Married Joint Filers

Head of Household Filers



10%

$0 to $8,950

$0 to $17,900

$0 to $12,750



15%

$8,950 to $36,250

$17,900 to $72,500

$12,750 to $48,600



25%

$36,250 to $87,850

$72,500 to $146,400

$48,600 to $125,450



28%

$87,850 to $183,250

$146,400 to $223,050

$125,450 to $203,150



33%

$183,250 to $203,600

$223,050 to $247,000

$203,150 to $227,300



36%

$203,600 to $398,350

$247,000 to $398,350

$227,300 to $398,350



39.60%

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up
WAKE UP AMERICA
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Now, is this video below a joke, or for real?

People sure are out there stirring the shit with industrial sized mixers

add a big dose of higher prices, lower wages, fewer jobs...and you have the ingredients for a violent backlash somewhere

hope I'm wrong, but history disagrees...


 Quoting: IssueX


that's Glozel. she is a comedian.

i'm starting to think this calcified pineal gland stuff is real.
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Scenario 1: Tax cuts under the extension of the Bush-era tax cuts for all






Rate

Single Filers

Married Joint Filers

Head of Household Filers



10%

$0 to $8,950

$0 to $17,900

$0 to $12,750



15%

$8,950 to $36,250

$17,900 to $72,500

$12,750 to $48,600



25%

$36,250 to $87,850

$72,500 to $146,400

$48,600 to $125,450



28%

$87,850 to $183,250

$146,400 to $223,050

$125,450 to $203,150



33%

$183,250 to $398,350

$223,050 to $398,350

$203,150 to $398,350



35%

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up
Scenario 2: Tax brackets under the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts for all






Rate

Single Filers

Married Joint Filers

Head of Household Filers



15%

$0 to $36,250

$0 to $60,550

$0 to $48,600



28%

$36,250 to $87,850

$60,550 to $146,400

$48,600 to $125,450



31%

$87,850 to $183,250

$146,400 to $223,050

$125,450 to $203,150



36%

$183,250 to $398,350

$223,050 to $398,350

$203,150 to $398,350



39.60%

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up


Scenario 3: Tax brackets under the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts for high-income






Rate

Single Filers

Married Joint Filers

Head of Household Filers



10%

$0 to $8,950

$0 to $17,900

$0 to $12,750



15%

$8,950 to $36,250

$17,900 to $72,500

$12,750 to $48,600



25%

$36,250 to $87,850

$72,500 to $146,400

$48,600 to $125,450



28%

$87,850 to $183,250

$146,400 to $223,050

$125,450 to $203,150



33%

$183,250 to $203,600

$223,050 to $247,000

$203,150 to $227,300



36%

$203,600 to $398,350

$247,000 to $398,350

$227,300 to $398,350



39.60%

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up

$398,350 and up
WAKE UP AMERICA
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


Thanks for this! I use to teach extra classes online, but I see now, it throws me into the next tax bracket. Not worth it.

Going Galt.

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Who is John Galt?
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we should really get rid of money all together and worry about the one thing you only need to survive.

FOOD.
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“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Until the train wreck is finished there's NOTHING we can do about it.

There is no new frontier, there is no new world, there is nowhere to escape the disaster that is government.

Fact is, the powers that were separated as outlined in the constitution have joined forces against us, and the free press is no longer bias.

The best we can hope for is for the coming disaster to begin. The only way we will be able to change any of what Washington D.C. has built is to let it implode... not one of us, including those in ivory buildings, will avoid the pain of the change to come...

Learn to live with it, and take what little dollars they let you keep and buy Gold and Silver because when the dead presidents become worthless, and they will.. he who has Gold will be the one known as FREEMAN.


I say good, let Uncle Sambo tax us into bankruptcy. It may be painful but those that sold their vote for phones, extended unemployment, food stamps, and a thrill up their leg, will be the ones who truly suffer when it all comes crashing down...

All they need do is watch what Obama doesn't do for Detroit..

[link to www.myfoxdetroit.com]

They voted for him and now they expect him to do something for them, but he won't because this was his "last election" and his "flexibility" is reserved for Putin.
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“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Until the train wreck is finished there's NOTHING we can do about it.

There is no new frontier, there is no new world, there is nowhere to escape the disaster that is government.

Fact is, the powers that were separated as outlined in the constitution have joined forces against us, and the free press is no longer bias.

The best we can hope for is for the coming disaster to begin. The only way we will be able to change any of what Washington D.C. has built is to let it implode... not one of us, including those in ivory buildings, will avoid the pain of the change to come...

Learn to live with it, and take what little dollars they let you keep and buy Gold and Silver because when the dead presidents become worthless, and they will.. he who has Gold will be the one known as FREEMAN.


I say good, let Uncle Sambo tax us into bankruptcy. It may be painful but those that sold their vote for phones, extended unemployment, food stamps, and a thrill up their leg, will be the ones who truly suffer when it all comes crashing down...

All they need do is watch what Obama doesn't do for Detroit..

[link to www.myfoxdetroit.com]

They voted for him and now they expect him to do something for them, but he won't because this was his "last election" and his "flexibility" is reserved for Putin.
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Well said, true and to the point. WAKE UP AMERICA
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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You got to love that hope and change norespect
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Rope and chains, you say?
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Just STOP. STOP participating in the scam. Claim ten dependents and in essence tell them to go fuck themselves. EVERYBODY just stop.
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Think we can get away with this?
Who is John Galt?
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Just STOP. STOP participating in the scam. Claim ten dependents and in essence tell them to go fuck themselves. EVERYBODY just stop.
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Think we can get away with this?
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Until the IRS shows up at your door with shotguns.
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I am seriously dreading what ever they finally do with the tax situation. I wish they would stop playing games and make a choice so we know what we will have to deal with next month.

I am going to have to figure in the worst case scenario and be glad if it is not as bad as I expect. I have made changes in our monthly budget to prepare for this, I just hope it will be enough.
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Now, is this video below a joke, or for real?

People sure are out there stirring the shit with industrial sized mixers

add a big dose of higher prices, lower wages, fewer jobs...and you have the ingredients for a violent backlash somewhere

hope I'm wrong, but history disagrees...


 Quoting: IssueX


her name is glozell & it was done as a spoof. she does comedic stuff all the time...but still, i'm sure there are many, many, many out there that really think that way.



[link to www.youtube.com]
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Yep.

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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
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Well, Obamacare makes it really easy now for employers to eliminate employee benefits since the fines to pay for not insuring employees are cheaper that the employer contributions if they are part of the plan.

Basically, Obama gave all these businesses a nice cost shift break to reduce their overhead in paying for health insurance.
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This is an ingenious plan by Obama to get all the beans in the obamacare pot. Like bacon with your beans?
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
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so true except for some do-gooders that have no idea they just voted themselves a big tax hike. i say give them do-gooders what they deserve. feed the monster. lol
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C'MON!!!! WHERE ARE ALL YOU ASSHATS WHO VOTED FOR THIS *JERK* BECAUSE RO(Money) - soo clever - WAS GOING TO BE - SO BAD - FOR US!!! HE WOULD STEAL ALL OUR MONEY, AND HE WANTED TO SEE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. HE ONLY CARED FOR THE RICH, AND OBAMMY WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF US LOWLY JERKS.......NOTHING BAAAD WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. NOOOO, OBAMA WOULDN'T DO THAAAAT.....

WHEN WILL YOU JERKS 'FESS UP THAT YOU *DID* GET THE BIG, DRY, SCREW JOB FROM O'ZERO AND THE DEMS.

YES, I'M SCREAMING, YES, I'M ANGRY.

DEAL WITH IT. YOU HAD THIS COMING. NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO REASON, NOBODY WANTED TO HEAR THAT OBAMA WOULD BE LIKE A LITTLE DIC-K-TATOR, AND THINGS WERE GOING TO GET A WHOLE LOT WORSE AFTER HE WAS RE-ELECTED.

NOW. DEAL. WITH. IT.
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Damn...I CAN reach my ankles.
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This should help - RE: Earnings brackets
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Important changes to your tax withholding amounts effective January 1, 2013

The Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 that was signed into law in December 2010 will expire on December 31, 2012. What this means to you:

· The temporary 2% cut in employee Social Security withholding (from 6.2% to 4.2%) effective on January 1, 2011, will expire, and the rate will change back to 6.2%.

· The Social Security wage base is increasing from $110,100 to $113,700, resulting in the maximum tax being increased from $4,624.20 to $7,049.40.

· In addition, the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act of 2010 increases the Medicare part A payroll tax by 0.9% (from 1.45% to 2.35%) for all income above $200,000.
Other possible changes effective January 1, 2013:

Tax-related provisions of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) also are set to expire on December 31, 2012 impacting Federal Income Tax withholding. What this means:

· The 10% income tax bracket is eliminated; the lowest bracket will be 15%. The top four brackets will change as shown below. To:

25% to 28%
28% to 31%
33% to 36%
35% to 39.6%

· Optional flat rate tax on Supplemental Wages up to $1 million in a year increases from 25% to 28%.

· Mandatory flat rate on Supplemental Wages over $1 million in a year increases from 35% to 39.6%.

The information above reflects the legislation currently in effect. If the laws change, we will send an update as early as possible in January 2013.
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What are the tax brackets? How much earnings are required to fit in the below?
25% to 28%
28% to 31%
33% to 36%
35% to 39.6%

Anyone know?
 Quoting: Renegade (Me too)

 Quoting: bella1


Thanks for the link to Forbes. After looking at it it seems to me there are a lot of middle class that will get boned, as the threshhold of jumping from the 15% to the 28% bracket will drop from $72,500 to $60,500. That's gonna leave a mark on a lot of two income families for sure.
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I remember seeing that 'farm price supports' will be cut also. Driving up the cost of food, I'm sure....
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The farmers will just grow zillions of acres of corn so the US Navy can have their green biofuel at a cost of $26 per galloon. Suck it up. Fritos without corn...enjoy.
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
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Now, is this video below a joke, or for real?

People sure are out there stirring the shit with industrial sized mixers

add a big dose of higher prices, lower wages, fewer jobs...and you have the ingredients for a violent backlash somewhere

hope I'm wrong, but history disagrees...


 Quoting: IssueX


Twenty seconds of this DISGRACE is all I could handle.
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Omg you tard its obvious parody look at her others videos. Look for "Glozell"


You are just perfect product of corporate/bankers/tptb propaganda , dumb stupid fuck that cant even verify source of the information , that belies he is free and have anything meaningful to say.
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
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Yup!
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For Sure. WAKE UP AMERICA
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
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Now, is this video below a joke, or for real?


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Excellent video to put up for target practice I say.
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God damn I'm curious...
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
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Now, is this video below a joke, or for real?

People sure are out there stirring the shit with industrial sized mixers

add a big dose of higher prices, lower wages, fewer jobs...and you have the ingredients for a violent backlash somewhere

hope I'm wrong, but history disagrees...


 Quoting: IssueX


Twenty seconds of this DISGRACE is all I could handle.
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Omg you tard its obvious parody look at her others videos. Look for "Glozell"


You are just perfect product of corporate/bankers/tptb propaganda , dumb stupid fuck that cant even verify source of the information , that belies he is free and have anything meaningful to say.
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God damn, the prophecy was fullfilled.
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we should really get rid of money all together and worry about the one thing you only need to survive.

FOOD.
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Trouble is everbody will want someone else to grow it process it and serve it while they sit and talk on there OBAMA phone
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
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Yes they will. And then Obama will declare "part time" is really more akin to "full time" and magically the unemployment rate will go down.

I'm not even joking.
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This is what I think Obama will do to get his one-payer fully socialized medicine into effect. He will suddenly declare 20 hours or some such as full time and require employers to insure even those working that amount. It will then force even more out of business and cost more jobs but I don't think he even has a clue as to cause and effect.

When he said he had 7th grade math, that may be the one time he told the truth.
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
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Yup. Well said. Actually it will, they ill get more cash and 'free stuff'
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