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Welcome to the Fiscal Cliff. Just received this notice from payroll dept...

 
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Hi America , welcome to Austerity , have a nice day y'all.....


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What happened to the 'promise' no one making uner $250K would see a tax increase?

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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Thread: Why the American Left Won’t Stop Until It Has Ruined Everything
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Important changes to your tax withholding amounts effective January 1, 2013

The Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 that was signed into law in December 2010 will expire on December 31, 2012. What this means to you:

· The temporary 2% cut in employee Social Security withholding (from 6.2% to 4.2%) effective on January 1, 2011, will expire, and the rate will change back to 6.2%.

· The Social Security wage base is increasing from $110,100 to $113,700, resulting in the maximum tax being increased from $4,624.20 to $7,049.40.

· In addition, the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act of 2010 increases the Medicare part A payroll tax by 0.9% (from 1.45% to 2.35%) for all income above $200,000.
Other possible changes effective January 1, 2013:

Tax-related provisions of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) also are set to expire on December 31, 2012 impacting Federal Income Tax withholding. What this means:

· The 10% income tax bracket is eliminated; the lowest bracket will be 15%. The top four brackets will change as shown below. To:

25% to 28%
28% to 31%
33% to 36%
35% to 39.6%

· Optional flat rate tax on Supplemental Wages up to $1 million in a year increases from 25% to 28%.

· Mandatory flat rate on Supplemental Wages over $1 million in a year increases from 35% to 39.6%.

The information above reflects the legislation currently in effect. If the laws change, we will send an update as early as possible in January 2013.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25720208


OK, I know I'm not an American, but the wages they are giving as examples here are so far above what we make together as a couple, never mind alone, that I struggle to comprehend. $100,000.00 and $113,000.00 for wages... Dam, sign me up! I'd need a telescope to see those wages, based on where I am.
Can someone clarify, if this truly is considered a "base" wage, because I can assure you, that is considered a VERY high wage here.
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WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Don't forget your local taxes people. I was researching and I think most state taxes will be going up also.
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... so far Wisconsin is .05 or in the county north of us .055 ...
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... neighboring Minnesota is already .07+! ...
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I think you are wrong my friend FICA will go up 2% and bottom tax rate 5% So if you make 10.00 hr or 400.00 per week you will see your weekly deductions go up about 28.00 Better hit that HOPE AND CHANGE app on your OBAMA PHONE and tell BARRY this isn't the change you thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8528412


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... true ... but HOW MANY Of O's supporters work? ...
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FFS! It's over!

Push this bitch over the fiscal cliff already

It will be like culling buffalo old school style
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... will be interesting to see ...
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
 Quoting: tandym


Yes they will. And then Obama will declare "part time" is really more akin to "full time" and magically the unemployment rate will go down.

I'm not even joking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


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... FULL time is now 30 hours ...
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... used to be 40 ...
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
 Quoting: tandym


Yes they will. And then Obama will declare "part time" is really more akin to "full time" and magically the unemployment rate will go down.

I'm not even joking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


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... FULL time is now 30 hours ...
.
... used to be 40 ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Where and with full benefits?
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I think you are wrong my friend FICA will go up 2% and bottom tax rate 5% So if you make 10.00 hr or 400.00 per week you will see your weekly deductions go up about 28.00 Better hit that HOPE AND CHANGE app on your OBAMA PHONE and tell BARRY this isn't the change you thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8528412


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... true ... but HOW MANY Of O's supporters work? ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


Ah, now these are wage numbers I can relate to.

Out of curiosity, what would be considered an average middle class working wage in the States?
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Going Galt.
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Is this part of the "recovery"?
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Sure it is. The government is about to recover all that disposable income we were enjoying.
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they sure would like a bigger piece of the pie.
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If their "piece" gets much bigger, they'll have the whole darned thing and all we'll have is the aroma as it's baking!
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we should really get rid of money all together and worry about the one thing you only need to survive.

FOOD.
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Trouble is everbody will want someone else to grow it process it and serve it while they sit and talk on there OBAMA phone
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HAHA! too bad for no brains and the fact that no one can think for themselves to simply just grown their selves or hunt.
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Just wait until they pass that law telling us we can't deduct the interest on our houses any longer.
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C'MON!!!! WHERE ARE ALL YOU ASSHATS WHO VOTED FOR THIS *JERK* BECAUSE RO(Money) - soo clever - WAS GOING TO BE - SO BAD - FOR US!!! HE WOULD STEAL ALL OUR MONEY, AND HE WANTED TO SEE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. HE ONLY CARED FOR THE RICH, AND OBAMMY WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF US LOWLY JERKS.......NOTHING BAAAD WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. NOOOO, OBAMA WOULDN'T DO THAAAAT.....

WHEN WILL YOU JERKS 'FESS UP THAT YOU *DID* GET THE BIG, DRY, SCREW JOB FROM O'ZERO AND THE DEMS.

YES, I'M SCREAMING, YES, I'M ANGRY.

DEAL WITH IT. YOU HAD THIS COMING. NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO REASON, NOBODY WANTED TO HEAR THAT OBAMA WOULD BE LIKE A LITTLE DIC-K-TATOR, AND THINGS WERE GOING TO GET A WHOLE LOT WORSE AFTER HE WAS RE-ELECTED.

NOW. DEAL. WITH. IT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2712120


IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET...!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL OF YOU ARE ASS-U-ME-ING THAT IT ALREADY A DONE DEAL.

THE GOVERNMENT LIKES, (NO LOVES) TO SCARE THE PEOPLE.

THEY ARE ORGASMING WITH POWER WHEN THEY SEE YOU CRYING AND BEGGING.


.......................clappa
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I'm not an American, but the wages they are giving as examples here are so far above what we make together as a couple, never mind alone, that I struggle to comprehend. $100,000.00 and $113,000.00 for wages... Dam, sign me up! I'd need a telescope to see those wages, based on where I am.
Can someone clarify, if this truly is considered a "base" wage, because I can assure you, that is considered a VERY high wage here.
 Quoting: my2centsworth


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... yep ... looks good on paper ... until ... you look at the co$t of living in the u$a and all the regs you are under ...
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... AND ... the living co$t is different in every area ...
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"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." -- Henry Ford

"We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it." -- Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)

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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
 Quoting: tandym


Yes they will. And then Obama will declare "part time" is really more akin to "full time" and magically the unemployment rate will go down.

I'm not even joking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


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... FULL time is now 30 hours ...
.
... used to be 40 ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Where and with full benefits?
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


[link to newmediajournal.us]
Obamacare Mandate 30-Hour Week
As 'Full-Time' Employment
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
 Quoting: tandym


Yes they will. And then Obama will declare "part time" is really more akin to "full time" and magically the unemployment rate will go down.

I'm not even joking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791




Agreed! And it WILL happen, when Obama decides that he's not getting enough blood out of us turnips!

And then, what will happen to all of those businesses which thought they were being so smart in knocking their employees down to "part-time" status to avoid Obamacare?

Obama has already proven to be quite fluid in his definition of "rich" - he keeps making it lower. There is no doubt that he wil do the same with "part-time" and "full-time".
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Don't forget your local taxes people. I was researching and I think most state taxes will be going up also.
 Quoting: Corn Dog


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... so far Wisconsin is .05 or in the county north of us .055 ...
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... neighboring Minnesota is already .07+! ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


THE FUCKING DUMB-ASS PEOPLE, MOSTLY UNIONS VOTED TO RAISE OUR SALES TAX HERE IS CALIFORNIA.

CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT THESE DUMB-MOTHER-FUCKING UNION MEMBER VOTED TO RAISE OUR OWN SALES TAX.

THEY VOTED TO GIVE MORE MONEY TO POLITICIANS.

THAT'S THE POWER OF UNIONS AND WILL BE THE BANKRUPTCY OF CALIFORNIA...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAY DECEMBER 21, 2012 START AT CALIFORNIA'S UNION WORKERS DOORSTEP.

......................clappa
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Just STOP. STOP participating in the scam. Claim ten dependents and in essence tell them to go fuck themselves. EVERYBODY just stop.
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Wouldn't claiming more dependents than you actually have be considered some sort of "fraud"?

Personally I'd like to be able to claim my dog. She costs me almost as much as a kid!!
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Thanks for the warm welcome guys.
Be the God, we are all God. Universal peace and light.
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I just got part timed
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Fiscal cliff is BS we're already broke sheople ...wake up
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Decision time.

Do work for nothing
or
Do not work for nothing.

Do the math.

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Calling it a "Fiscal Cliff" is a poor analogy

We went over the fiscal cliff 3 years ago , its why we no longer have a "AAA" credit rating.

What we are seeing now is the "Bottom of the fiscal cliff".

We either wind up with huge tax increases on the middle class , or we see massive devaluation of the dollar ( which also screws over the middle class )

Pick your poison.
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
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^^that^^+100000
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Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses.
For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized. We are sorry ...
Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Work hard, increase production, prevent accidents and be happy.
Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy.

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