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Welcome to the Fiscal Cliff. Just received this notice from payroll dept...

 
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As a Baby Boomer, may I also say that if the grand plan is to disparage us to our children and kill us off early after we've worked our whole life to be able to retire comfortably, then I'll be taking whatever I have left and enjoying early retirement, and all the freeloaders, entitled offspring of hard working Americans, and enablers of these crazy ideas and lifestyles can stick it where the sun don't shine. Have fun supporting your socialist and communist crap without the Baby Boomers!
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Whoever comes up with these media buzzwords needs to jump in a GM vehicle and drive right off that fucking cliff.
"Fiscal cliff" is hereby declared dead from overuse and lack of substance. Of course, there is no such thing. American economic collapse is all engineered, all manipulated and planned. Time to stop echoing government-induced media claptrap.
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if you don't want to pay so much in taxes just work for less money, that will help the economy anyways

proud 15%er: i make plenty and live a good life because i am not greedy
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
 Quoting: tandym


Yes they will. And then Obama will declare "part time" is really more akin to "full time" and magically the unemployment rate will go down.

I'm not even joking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


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... FULL time is now 30 hours ...
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... used to be 40 ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Where and with full benefits?
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01




Before I retired, I worked 30 hours/wk officially, although it usually ended up being closer to 40 because of all the extra work caused by "consolidating" jobs. That extra 10 was just a freebie, I even got the Union involved and the school said that my position had always been a three-quarter-time position and that it wasn't going to change, and that if I couldn't get all the work done in 30 hours then there was something wrong with ME. My position was called "3/4 time", and I got 3/4 benefits too.
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Yes they will. And then Obama will declare "part time" is really more akin to "full time" and magically the unemployment rate will go down.

I'm not even joking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


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... FULL time is now 30 hours ...
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... used to be 40 ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


Where and with full benefits?
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


[link to newmediajournal.us]
Obamacare Mandate 30-Hour Week
As 'Full-Time' Employment
CNSNews.com
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Well, finally some good news.
Who is John Galt?
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The funny part about the election is: Example OH. The whole satate was red except for the city areas and that was enough to win him the election. All the libtards live around the citys. And that is where the riotswill start when things go bad. Being a libertarian I disagree with both side most of the time but the color blue is blind as a bat. Way to go Sheep Bahhhhhh
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The elections are set up, the people do not vote the person in.

I can't believe how many people on this forum still believe that.
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As a Baby Boomer, may I also say that if the grand plan is to disparage us to our children and kill us off early after we've worked our whole life to be able to retire comfortably, then I'll be taking whatever I have left and enjoying early retirement, and all the freeloaders, entitled offspring of hard working Americans, and enablers of these crazy ideas and lifestyles can stick it where the sun don't shine. Have fun supporting your socialist and communist crap without the Baby Boomers!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487806


no one gives a puddle of runny cat shit about your bucket list bukakke .

the retail/service economy loves big spenders , the wealth you whine about will just pass through more hands as it is dispersed through the economy.
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Important changes to your tax withholding amounts effective January 1, 2013

The Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 that was signed into law in December 2010 will expire on December 31, 2012. What this means to you:

· The temporary 2% cut in employee Social Security withholding (from 6.2% to 4.2%) effective on January 1, 2011, will expire, and the rate will change back to 6.2%.

· The Social Security wage base is increasing from $110,100 to $113,700, resulting in the maximum tax being increased from $4,624.20 to $7,049.40.

· In addition, the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act of 2010 increases the Medicare part A payroll tax by 0.9% (from 1.45% to 2.35%) for all income above $200,000.
Other possible changes effective January 1, 2013:

Tax-related provisions of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) also are set to expire on December 31, 2012 impacting Federal Income Tax withholding. What this means:

· The 10% income tax bracket is eliminated; the lowest bracket will be 15%. The top four brackets will change as shown below. To:

25% to 28%
28% to 31%
33% to 36%
35% to 39.6%

· Optional flat rate tax on Supplemental Wages up to $1 million in a year increases from 25% to 28%.

· Mandatory flat rate on Supplemental Wages over $1 million in a year increases from 35% to 39.6%.

The information above reflects the legislation currently in effect. If the laws change, we will send an update as early as possible in January 2013.
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obammytax2 depress
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My husband and I believe that more 'full time' workers will be reduced to 'part time' before 2013 is over in order to head off the obamacare 'tax'.
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And employees will become contractors. My company already doesn't hire employees anymore.
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thanks liberals
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if you don't want to pay so much in taxes just work for less money, that will help the economy anyways

proud 15%er: i make plenty and live a good life because i am not greedy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17579430


How about we keep all or money and don't pay shit! Fuck this government.
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12/05/2012 06:51 PM
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You have a job, wtf?
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>>>> this




You know what's funny? Go back and watch early eps of of Law and Order, seasons aired 1990-1991. Know what they referenced? Unemployment, recession, Middle East conflict, and several other things relevant today. Bush was president. I'm not crazy about O but he's not the only one who made problems.
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if you don't want to pay so much in taxes just work for less money, that will help the economy anyways

proud 15%er: i make plenty and live a good life because i am not greedy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17579430


Not judging you or anything but the more you make the more you can give and help out others. And of course the less we give the government the more "we the people" can try to help out each other.
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I'm not an American, but the wages they are giving as examples here are so far above what we make together as a couple, never mind alone, that I struggle to comprehend. $100,000.00 and $113,000.00 for wages... Dam, sign me up! I'd need a telescope to see those wages, based on where I am.
Can someone clarify, if this truly is considered a "base" wage, because I can assure you, that is considered a VERY high wage here.
 Quoting: my2centsworth


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... yep ... looks good on paper ... until ... you look at the co$t of living in the u$a and all the regs you are under ...
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... AND ... the living co$t is different in every area ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


But my understanding is that we are more heavily taxed than the U.S. and our cost of living is higher than the U.S.
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Milk the US Citizen slave for just a little more to pay for your WAR machine and the Federal Reserve Banking system

You could demand lawful money per 12 USC 411 and avoid all of this, but that would require you do actually take a stand against all this.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20901334





you said it.




there is a way out, but everyone has their choices to make now don't they? Maybe easier to pass thru the eye of a needle.

a nation full of sheeple begets a government of wolves.
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Important changes to your tax withholding amounts effective January 1, 2013

The Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 that was signed into law in December 2010 will expire on December 31, 2012. What this means to you:

· The temporary 2% cut in employee Social Security withholding (from 6.2% to 4.2%) effective on January 1, 2011, will expire, and the rate will change back to 6.2%.

· The Social Security wage base is increasing from $110,100 to $113,700, resulting in the maximum tax being increased from $4,624.20 to $7,049.40.

· In addition, the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act of 2010 increases the Medicare part A payroll tax by 0.9% (from 1.45% to 2.35%) for all income above $200,000.
Other possible changes effective January 1, 2013:

Tax-related provisions of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) also are set to expire on December 31, 2012 impacting Federal Income Tax withholding. What this means:

· The 10% income tax bracket is eliminated; the lowest bracket will be 15%. The top four brackets will change as shown below. To:

25% to 28%
28% to 31%
33% to 36%
35% to 39.6%

· Optional flat rate tax on Supplemental Wages up to $1 million in a year increases from 25% to 28%.

· Mandatory flat rate on Supplemental Wages over $1 million in a year increases from 35% to 39.6%.

The information above reflects the legislation currently in effect. If the laws change, we will send an update as early as possible in January 2013.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25720208


Ben Dover and spread your cheeks mate.
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problem-reaction-solution

"We are approaching a fiscal cliff."

"Oh no! A fiscal cliff! Whatever are we to do? We need drastic measures or all is lost!"

"Here's Austerity up your ass. Enjoy."
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Is this part of the "recovery"?
 Quoting: Chip


No, this should satisfy the Republicans who want to tax people to death to pay on the debt they accumulated with five unfunded wars and massive tax cuts.
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you can't tax yourself into prosperity. like trying to pick up a bucket while you are standing in it.

the only thing that can save you is smaller government and a powerful burst of entrepreneurs and startups. they are on the going down the wrong road. doom is in the box.
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how sad that we call ourselves Patriots and do nothing in response to the tyranny hurled against us. We are the people, remember? Peaceful opposition.

This is 1000 times worse than what England was doing to us.

We are weak!
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Someone we know well, a hard worker said she's done paying her mortgage. Let them take the house. Started over before and will do it again. People have had enough in this neck of the woods (Maine).
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Oh hell yes...teacher here and taxes just went down!
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how sad that we call ourselves Patriots and do nothing in response to the tyranny hurled against us. We are the people, remember? Peaceful opposition.

This is 1000 times worse than what England was doing to us.

We are weak!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21681843


not weak. just not hungry enough yet. when more people start missing meals the shit will hit the fan.
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Hopefully, with all of these continued fuck ups, Americans wake up and realize both Democrats and Republicans are the fucking problem and the only solution is Libertarianism.

Fucking idiot people in our society who are brainwashed and regurgitate anything they read/hear/see on mainstream media.

It's fucking sad.
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Luckily these changes won't affect any Obama voters...
 Quoting: BRIEF


They will get in increase in their welfare.
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Is this part of the "recovery"?
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No, this should satisfy the Republicans who want to tax people to death to pay on the debt they accumulated with five unfunded wars and massive tax cuts.
 Quoting: Northman


Now THERE is the best bit of DEMENTED LOGIC I have heard all day.
...Republicans???....taxes??? lol

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The sad part is how people think their taxes are not going up. They are going up for EVERYONE you morans.
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Is this part of the "recovery"?
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No, this should satisfy the Republicans who want to tax people to death to pay on the debt they accumulated with five unfunded wars and massive tax cuts.
 Quoting: Northman


Like the one in Libya, Egypt, and soon to be Syria.
Oh wait...
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The sad part is how people think their taxes are not going up. They are going up for EVERYONE you morans.
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Yep.
The sheep are about to realize they have been slaughtered by there own stupidity and ignorance.

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if you don't want to pay so much in taxes just work for less money, that will help the economy anyways

proud 15%er: i make plenty and live a good life because i am not greedy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17579430


Not judging you or anything but the more you make the more you can give and help out others. And of course the less we give the government the more "we the people" can try to help out each other.
 Quoting: IRQ_1


Thinking like this kills innovation. There will no longer be any incentive to excel.