AmericaFAIL: Majority of Young Voters Favor Bigger Government

The majority of young voters are useless and will not survive long.

most excellent!

good to see the old guard finally changing.

im sure most people do want the government to solve problems.... and im sure alot would like them to do that by not makeing problems

Our problem is the politicians' irresistible temptation to spend--other people's money. If you don't believe it, have a look at this OMB chart posted recently by Ed Krayewski at Reason.com. Revenues went up starting in 2004 (after the tax rate cuts) until the Great Recession set in. Spending climbed in good times and bad.

[link to reason.com]

As Ron Hart points out, Bill Clinton's balanced budget contained spending of $1.7 trillion. "Adjusted for inflation, our federal government would be spending $2.3 trillion today and collecting $2.5 trillion in 'revenues,' resulting in a $200 billion surplus. But instead of increasing government spending in line with normal inflation, under Bush and Obama we are spending $3.8 trillion today. Democrats, who believe we have a 'revenue' problem instead of a 'spending' problem, must also think they have a bartender problem, not a drinking problem."

[link to www.ocregister.com]

Republicans are hardly better. They talk about a spending problem, but they rarely act as though they believe it. If they did, they wouldn't be fretting over the automatic (and meager) cuts in the Pentagon's outrageously bloated budget under sequestration. They'd be calling for more, considering that the U.S. government now spends more on the military than it did during the Cold War.

There's nothing romantic about taxation, and the patriot appeal is chicanery. Those who say otherwise are, wittingly or unwittingly, mere stalking horses for politicians looking to do more mischief.

This is why I don't really expect any kind of economic recovery in the foreseeable future and maybe not in our lifetimes.

A few notes: George W. Bush and supporters of the tax cut said federal revenue would go up after passing the cuts and it appears it did. In fact, federal receipts reached Clinton-era levels without Clinton-era tax rates in 2006, not long after all the cuts went into effect (passed in 2001 and 2003, they were tweaked with in 2005). Bush passed a tax cut as stimulus in 2008 and Barack Obama’s trillion dollar stimulus package in 2009 included some type of tax cuts as well, but does that chart look like a revenue problem or a spending problem?

And for those who would say “well of course the government has to spend more when the economy is hurting” only one question applies: has it helped? If you think so, I've got a tiger-repellant rock to sell you.

[link to reason.com]

:2 year old with :

Guess more young people don't understand the math

Thread: Why the American Left Won’t Stop Until It Has Ruined Everything

well yeah it has dawned on them the only way to stay indoors with food on the table is to work for govco if you are not a minority.

comfortable shoes , smart phone and a warm place to take a shit is all they can hope for

The fiscal cliff actually doesn't seem to be all that problematic. What is problematic is just that the economy is slowing and people are not coming to stores. The small retailers are saying customers are not coming into the stores. They don't have good traffic and they're losing a lot of sales to the internet.


The other thing that is actually quite disturbing is that – if I go give a speech to 400 or 500 people in a specific city, for instance a Chamber event, and it's a doom and gloom speech because I am a very big bear on the economy now – this is what has been happening: Some people will always come up and say, "Hey, you know, I agreed with this, I disagreed with that." But lately they've been adding, "But you're 100% right, this economy is much weaker than anybody in the press is letting you know or leading you to believe." And out of an audience of 400, I have recently been getting 25 to 40 people coming up to me after the event saying things like, "I didn't raise my hand because we're at an event where my competitors are sitting across the table from me and I didn't want to advertise this, but I'm folding my business after Christmas. My name is on top of the 100-year-old, four generation family business, or a 75-year-old, third-generation business, and I have to shut the doors. But I don't want to do it before Christmas because then I have to answer all these questions and I'm going to be an embarrassment to my family." That's a very powerful statement.

Bloomberg's Rich Yamarone

[link to www.kingworldnews.com]

Exactly.

I 2nd that.

Last Edited by *Evan on 12/05/2012 06:16 PM

This is how these moochers think!!!

That is not "thinking" at all.

Obama To Tax Middle Class Into Oblivion!

Watered-down values and ethics no doubt define the generations. Case in point: Following Jimmy Carter's first term, the nation couldn't get him out of Washington quickly enough. Fuel costs were insane. Inflation was insane. Industry was under assault. And our nation was still at odds over why we had been at war halfway around the world. What the hell has changed?

I am 45 years old. I was raised in a conservative New England (New Hampshire) community that was anchored in colonial values. Adults were ALWAYS addressed as Mr., Mrs., or Ms; You learned to stretch a penny to he geographic limits of the planet; And you sure as hell didn't ask anyone for anything or likewise embrace anything you didn't ask for. And yet, I could sense something was changing.

Upon reflection, I have no doubt that what started as a movement socially and economically when I was a child to reprogram the American mindset and system of values has come to fruition. Jimmy Carter was handed his walking papers in short order, because America, at its core and in the hearts of most Americans, was still fiercely independent, freedom-loving, and fiscally cognizant. But we have become the antithesis of that era, and to that, we owe the embrace young voters pay to bigger government and the success of a progressive society.

Those of us who hold these values are seeing the American dream fade - as the "give me' libs take the field. The end is in sight for the American demise.

Gallup: 53 Percent of Democrats Have ‘Positive Image’ of Socialism

[link to cnsnews.com]

Good posts OP. May I suggest posting up the "Tytler Cycle" oh great paying member? lol

"The historical cycle seems to be: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more."

"The historical cycle seems to be: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more."

I was referring to the graphic but thanks lol. Same effect.

Graphic on the way - just uploaded, awaiting mod approval

Do YOU, personally, BELIEVE that you have the Natural RIGHT to do whatever you WANT, free from Gubmint interference, until and UNLESS you harm OTHERS?

Do YOU, personally, BELIEVE that ANY person can be trusted with UNCHECKED POWER over others?

Do YOU, personally, think it is WISE to go into MASSIVE DEBT, unless there is NO other alternative?

"Progressives" HEM and HAW with questions ONE and THREE. They sure enough don't TRUST anyone to RULE them, and that is to their CREDIT. But they FEAR their OWN impulses, or those of the rest of us, and seem to feel that these are TRICK questions; that it is ACCEPTABLE to them that "experts", our "betters" direct EVERY ASPECT of our LIVES.

SOON, they will LEARN. Since question TWO is TRUE, there can BE no other answers to ONE and THREE...

For you Chris!