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Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

 
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Ya know there could be other reasons for the displacement of celestial bodies , and anomalies (such as vortex clouds) in our skies.

Holograms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Years ago, during a penumbral eclipse of the moon, (whereas the moon turned red)most of the United States saw the full eclipse; whereas in Liberty, Ky, it never happened, the moon never eclipsed , though you could see the shadow of the eclipse behind it.

It's been talked about, for many years, by rogue "insiders", that our military (deep black operations), had such technology, using chemtrails to create a reflective matter within our atmosphere, to literally create a projection screen of our atmosphere, to produce holograms.

Could the weird anomalies, that others and myself in the past have witnessed, be the workings of holograms? The night of the eclipse, I spoke to people all over the U.S.A., confirming the eclipse was happening, I could see the eclipse shadow, but the moon never eclipsed in Liberty, Ky. The eclipse I'm referring to happened in the Fall of 2004 or 2005.

So the real question here, is..........Are they using holograms in our atmosphere, of our night skies? If so why? And also if so, lol, WHAT ARE THEY HIDING FROM US??????????????
 Quoting: THE BAT 29196967




Well when clouds can go BEHIND the moon what else is that but a hologram? Has to be in our atmosphere then. And this isnt how it always was. But its whenever the imposter showed up mid 2011 after the moon went on its week or two vacation and returned the imposter.
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Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Also explains why the earth is off it's natural orbit.
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one of those, ehpeace
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Sorry but to me is a big ignorant in astronomy (or a shill even a troll posting the same crap).
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to each his own, I suppose. I find him to be very intelligent, and informative...
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And all things on the earth shall alter,
And shall not appear in their time:
And the moon shall alter her order,
And not appear at her time.
And in those days the sun shall be seen and he shall journey in the evening on the extremity of the great chariot in the west
And shall shine more brightly than accords with the order of light.
And many chiefs of the stars shall transgress the order (prescribed).
And these shall alter their orbits and tasks,
And not appear at the seasons prescribed to them.
And the whole order of the stars shall be concealed,
And the thoughts of those on the earth shall err concerning them,
Book of Enoch


The Figure 8 wobble of the Earth has been documented since 2004, and is caused by the near presence of Nibiru, aka Planet X, near the Sun.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Dr. Astro and Circuit Breaker are paid disinfo agents for those too dumb and blind to have figured that out.

Want to know why NASA tells you NOT to listen to Nancy Lieder? Have done that in the past and most recently on 11/28 on their NASA event.
[link to www.youtube.com]
Nancy Lieder and ONLY Nancy Lieder is mentioned. Not Ed Dames (kill shot from the Sun)? Not James McCanney (its all about comets)? Just Nancy Lieder is the worry?

Nibiru and Doomsday 2012: Questions and Answers
July 3, 2010
[link to astrobiology.nasa.gov]
What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in December 2012? The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. Zecharia Sitchin, who writes fiction about the ancient Mesopotamian civilization of Sumer, claimed in several books (e.g., The Twelfth Planet, published in 1976) that he has found and translated Sumerian documents that identify the planet Nibiru, orbiting the Sun every 3600 years. These Sumerian fables include stories of "ancient astronauts" visiting Earth from a civilization of aliens called the Anunnaki. Then Nancy Lieder, a self-declared psychic who claims she is channeling aliens, wrote on her website Zetatalk that the inhabitants of a fictional planet around the star Zeta Reticuli warned her that the Earth was in danger from Planet X or Nibiru. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012.


2012 Apocalypse Fears Unfounded, NASA says
December 9, 2011
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
Yeomans noted that well-known UFO aficionado Nancy Leider, who describes herself as being in contact with aliens from the star system Zeta Reticuli, first said Nibiru would cause widespread disaster in May 2003, only to later change her prediction to Dec. 21, 2012.


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Ya know there could be other reasons for the displacement of celestial bodies , and anomalies (such as vortex clouds) in our skies.

Holograms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Years ago, during a penumbral eclipse of the moon, (whereas the moon turned red)most of the United States saw the full eclipse; whereas in Liberty, Ky, it never happened, the moon never eclipsed , though you could see the shadow of the eclipse behind it.

It's been talked about, for many years, by rogue "insiders", that our military (deep black operations), had such technology, using chemtrails to create a reflective matter within our atmosphere, to literally create a projection screen of our atmosphere, to produce holograms.

Could the weird anomalies, that others and myself in the past have witnessed, be the workings of holograms? The night of the eclipse, I spoke to people all over the U.S.A., confirming the eclipse was happening, I could see the eclipse shadow, but the moon never eclipsed in Liberty, Ky. The eclipse I'm referring to happened in the Fall of 2004 or 2005.

So the real question here, is..........Are they using holograms in our atmosphere, of our night skies? If so why? And also if so, lol, WHAT ARE THEY HIDING FROM US??????????????
 Quoting: THE BAT 29196967




Well when clouds can go BEHIND the moon what else is that but a hologram? Has to be in our atmosphere then. And this isnt how it always was. But its whenever the imposter showed up mid 2011 after the moon went on its week or two vacation and returned the imposter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27504274


Yes, clouds behind the moon could suggest a hologram as well,lol. So this could possibly illustrate a theory that TPTB are hiding something from us in our night skies.

Hmmmmm! I wonder what the would be hiding?

Let's see:

1. Nibiru?????????????
2. A lot of anomalous booms happening all around the world, and hums, and all sorts of weird noises. Cloaked alien ships shooting each other senseless?
3. Jimmy Hoffa

Take your pick, but honestly somethings not adding up, except that hologram projections in our night skies are being used.
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DOOOOM
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Okkaaayyyy.....
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Okkaaayyyy.....
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Lol! The Jimmy Hoffa comment was a joke!
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to each his own, I suppose. I find him to be very intelligent, and informative...
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Y, he's so intelligent that he can't explain why the moon is on sideway mode, but haey, he wrote the same crap with no scientific evidence like that: "because of field rotation"
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Ya know there could be other reasons for the displacement of celestial bodies , and anomalies (such as vortex clouds) in our skies.

Holograms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Years ago, during a penumbral eclipse of the moon, (whereas the moon turned red)most of the United States saw the full eclipse; whereas in Liberty, Ky, it never happened, the moon never eclipsed , though you could see the shadow of the eclipse behind it.

It's been talked about, for many years, by rogue "insiders", that our military (deep black operations), had such technology, using chemtrails to create a reflective matter within our atmosphere, to literally create a projection screen of our atmosphere, to produce holograms.

Could the weird anomalies, that others and myself in the past have witnessed, be the workings of holograms? The night of the eclipse, I spoke to people all over the U.S.A., confirming the eclipse was happening, I could see the eclipse shadow, but the moon never eclipsed in Liberty, Ky. The eclipse I'm referring to happened in the Fall of 2004 or 2005.

So the real question here, is..........Are they using holograms in our atmosphere, of our night skies? If so why? And also if so, lol, WHAT ARE THEY HIDING FROM US??????????????
 Quoting: THE BAT 29196967




Well when clouds can go BEHIND the moon what else is that but a hologram? Has to be in our atmosphere then. And this isnt how it always was. But its whenever the imposter showed up mid 2011 after the moon went on its week or two vacation and returned the imposter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27504274


Yes, clouds behind the moon could suggest a hologram as well,lol. So this could possibly illustrate a theory that TPTB are hiding something from us in our night skies.

Hmmmmm! I wonder what the would be hiding?

Let's see:

1. Nibiru?????????????
2. A lot of anomalous booms happening all around the world, and hums, and all sorts of weird noises. Cloaked alien ships shooting each other senseless?
3. Jimmy Hoffa

Take your pick, but honestly somethings not adding up, except that hologram projections in our night skies are being used.
 Quoting: THE BAT 29196967


Yep, no idea how they are doing what they are doing. Just that they are doing it. The bible said it would be like this and its grossly being hidden and laughed at but the more critical thinkers see it so I know its real. Whats even more baffling then its happening is how in the world they can keep so many quiet about it when their memories and just good logic tells them otherwise. People just laugh about it and call others crazy and go on about there day. Not like THE moon which has always been a staple of THE night has problems and never did before in their lifetimes. This deception is so great one can feel its power sometimes. Its magnetism into apathy and "its ok" feelings. So in ways I can see how hard it must be for some of the sheep right now.
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to each his own, I suppose. I find him to be very intelligent, and informative...
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Y, he's so intelligent that he can't explain why the moon is on sideway mode, but haey, he wrote the same crap with no scientific evidence like that: "because of field rotation"
 Quoting: DUCM900



this is why i try to stay out of political, and religious threads as well..just no changing of ones mind, in this regard.

I will still await astros response...peace
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They did state somewhere that the Boxing Day tsumai change the tilt of the planet a little bit. Wonder how far the earths axis has tilted since the Boxing Day tsumai considering there have been a lot of very powerful earthquakes since this date(i.e. Japan earthquake).
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this is why i try to stay out of political, and religious threads as well..just no changing of ones mind, in this regard.

I will still await astros response...peace
 Quoting: exiled1


that's not about political at all, he just dont know/explain the crap he wrote everytime
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Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Also explains why the earth is off it's natural orbit.
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A++++++++

clappa

im sending this off to the the govt and abc news and other msm
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If something were in the "wrong place" hundreds of thousands of amateur astronomers and backyard astronomers would be blowing the whistle.

Their go-to equipment would not work.

Having said that, it still does, I used it last night.
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Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Also explains why the earth is off it's natural orbit.
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A++++++++

clappa

im sending this off to the the govt and abc news and other msm
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clappaclappa
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If something were in the "wrong place" hundreds of thousands of amateur astronomers and backyard astronomers would be blowing the whistle.

Their go-to equipment would not work.

Having said that, it still does, I used it last night.
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again with this s***

putin
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bump
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What about the Giza pyramids?
Stonehenge?
The Serpent Mound, Ohio?
Etc.
Aren't there various places on earth that chart the stars and are in a fixed position and have been forcenturies?
This is something that should be verifiable by those ancient landmarks.
Anyone near one of them?
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this is why i try to stay out of political, and religious threads as well..just no changing of ones mind, in this regard.

I will still await astros response...peace
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that's not about political at all, he just dont know/explain the crap he wrote everytime
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I was just using other examples of a mindset, which seems impossible to sway, no matter the evidence...arguing such matters often seems pointless, to me.
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Good grief !!!!

You people amaze me.

Orion is exactly where it is supposed to be.
The moon is exactly where it is supposed to be.
The sun is exactly where it is supposed to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18012248


When did you actually check?

How did you check?

What margin of error are you working with?

What equipment are you using?

Where did you source the data needed to verify?



Did you check at all or are you just assuming?
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wow, you are going to demand source data verification from a guy who says the moon, sun and orion are where they should be and yet automatically give credibility to some whackjob who admits he has been "sick in the brain" and points to clouds for the location of orion?

facepalm
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to each his own, I suppose. I find him to be very intelligent, and informative...
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Y, he's so intelligent that he can't explain why the moon is on sideway mode, but haey, he wrote the same crap with no scientific evidence like that: "because of field rotation"
 Quoting: DUCM900


When I first came here (not long ago really) I was totally freaked out by all the doom. I was so convinced of it I called him a shill, among other things. He really pissed me off because I was so SURE doom was there I couldn't even listen and comprehend the logical explanations.

Astro kept saying to look things up, do my own research, learn to use the tools available and educate myself - so I did. And he was right all along.

One of my complaints was that he was arrogant. Well you know what? He should be. He was bagging his head against the wall every day trying to show people the science behind some mysteries. I'd have been frustrated too dealing with hard heads like me!

The fact that he did indeed find an anomaly last night (albeit small) and reported it seals it for me, let alone the fact he lost sleep to do it for us. Like him or not, he's no shill. He earned that "Dr." title and we are fools if we don't appreciate his knowledge - and his time here for us.

No, I'm not kissing his ass - I'm just another random GLPer with nothing to gain by doing it. I'm admitting I was wrong. Believe me, 6 months ago I never would have thought I'd back him but I've learned a lot more than just tidbits of science on this forum. I learned I'm not half as smart as I thought I was, that doom isn't around every corner and I need to shut up and listen to the people that know what the hell they're talking about.

(Sorry, I'm cranky...zero sleep and a long day ahead)

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Good grief !!!!

You people amaze me.

Orion is exactly where it is supposed to be.
The moon is exactly where it is supposed to be.
The sun is exactly where it is supposed to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18012248


When did you actually check?

How did you check?

What margin of error are you working with?

What equipment are you using?

Where did you source the data needed to verify?



Did you check at all or are you just assuming?
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


wow, you are going to demand source data verification from a guy who says the moon, sun and orion are where they should be and yet automatically give credibility to some whackjob who admits he has been "sick in the brain" and points to clouds for the location of orion?

facepalm
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lol, no demand, simple questions.

If you like, I can type them out again and fill in the answers for the guy on the video.

If you read the thread, you will see my list of possible causes. Acid and boredom are few of the possibilities.

What I am ASKING is the persons method of receiving their knowledge. If you browse GLP enough, many "professionals" or "rational" people also make general assumptions.



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Fucking clouds. I'll try to wait them out as long as I can.
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Got the shot, now to download and analyze.
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Thank God, can't sleep til I know the answer. I always look for Orion when I walk the dogs, tonight it was not where it usually is. Ihad to turn around and look south. Thought it was just me til I saw this thread.

Drum roll for the good Dr's verdict....
 Quoting: Serendipitous


Alright, first up, I shot this image of Orion and astrometrically solved it. The constellation's right where it should be relative to the surrounding stars. The annotations were automatically generated as a result of the astrometric solution.
[link to nova.astrometry.net]
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Dr shill with his bullshit cover story....
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Orion (the whole constellation of stars) is in the wrong place, but the rest of the sky is correctly in position?

Okay. Who the h*** is moving around Orion?!?!?!?!?
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Last Night at 10:30pm obviously there were two bulls up in the sky. I had to do a double take to see which one was which. Another thing also it was Clear as a bell out and the really bright star would dim and then go bright and then dim and then go bright and on and on. Watched for about half an hour and then things settled down. There were no clouds. None. Their was no high atmospheric clouds either to account for the brightening or the diming. It was very strange.
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I've also been seeing stars to that for just over a year now, massive bright ones slowly pulsing, or starting off bright then going dim and staying dim. I've also seen some really weird stuff happening with Jupiter, although a few people were skeptical when I made a thread about it.

I agree that the sun - or earth in relation to it - appears to have changed position and also think the moon looks different. I have even seen a couple of 'UFOs' in the same time frame, although the seem like stars they're just moving round and behaving oddly. Not sure about Orion, although I agree this constellation is hugely significant right now
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Remember The Truman Show?

Yeah, we are all inside The Truman Show...

Not just you and me, but millions of people...
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Notice how Dr shill said Orion is right where it's supposed to be RELATIVE to the surrounding stars...the whole sky has shifted Dr, that's why Orion is out of place in relation to landmarks on earth as is the sun rising over different mountain peaks.

Get ready for the ride of your lives
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he had something very serious happen in his

brian

that's it, I don't need to know anymore.
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I see orion every time I look out my window sitting on the throne, and it's still there

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