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Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

 
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Remember The Truman Show?

Yeah, we are all inside The Truman Show...

Not just you and me, but millions of people...
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At this point its not so strange anymore discover taht...



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The computer programs will conceal anything off by changing the data to fit what is normal. Most science people will ignore their senses and just trust the computer programs. Everything is computerized now and blindly trusted. That is the answer to why hundreds of amateur astronomers are not screaming.



Soon, it will be investigated with manual equipment against books instead of computer programs and find something truly is off a bit possibly.
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Well, I just Had to go look, didn't I? lol

The moonrise tonight is quite a bit further south than it rose at the full of the moon. Is there that much of a variation each month?
 Quoting: lasombra


Yes.

Orion is in about the same relation to the moon as from a few nights ago,
 Quoting: lasombra


No, it isn't. It can't be unless the Moon has stopped orbiting Earth.

but it is noticeably further to the South as well, instead of almost directly overhead where I usually notice it.
 Quoting: lasombra


What is?

Somebody already said it... must be a glitch in the matrix!
hiding
 Quoting: lasombra


No, it's glitch in the science education system.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



"No, it's a glitch in the science education system" has to be the best GLP comeback ever! FTW!!!
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orion is peeping up over my horizon in an hour, a quick look at stellarium should debunk this quick snap.
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again, trusting a computer program to debunk.
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again, trusting a computer program to debunk.
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that just a shills tool.
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Orion (the whole constellation of stars) is in the wrong place, but the rest of the sky is correctly in position?

Okay. Who the h*** is moving around Orion?!?!?!?!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28390136


Touche!

cruise
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien




IT'S ME lol...I've been messing with Orion for a while now. Tonight I even made it laugh with Tintin'S Castophiore. "Margueritte, est-ce toi si c'est toi? Réponds-moi viiiiiite!" And then I spotted my casual shooting star.

Just trying to get an response from Orion. I will continue indeed!
 Quoting: Apopheros


So basically, Orion overdid it on the Grey Goose, passed out, and woke up in an unfamiliar place? Happens to all of us.
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orion is peeping up over my horizon in an hour, a quick look at stellarium should debunk this quick snap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29187124


again, trusting a computer program to debunk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25148952


I dont use a computer, I use my window, may ass, my toilet seat and turning my head to the right about 45 degrees and looking up about 0 degrees, and poof it's still there this morning
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If it were in the wrong place im sure it would be the biggest news story of all time, I highly doubt this is true

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Not like THE moon which has always been a staple of THE night has problems and never did before in their lifetimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27504274

Even as a child back in the 1980's, I can remember seeing the moon during the day sometimes. It's a myth that the moon in only present in the sky at night.

The problem is that most people don't pay any attention to such things until someone tricks them by pointing out the divergence from the myth, such as:
- the Sun is rising further south than normal (the Sun will continue to rise further south until the Winter Solstice, at which point it will start moving north until the Summer Solstice)

- the moon disappears (the moon is not always visible at night. sometimes its up during the day)

- Orion is not in the right position. Orion's position, like ALL of the space objects in our sky, will change position throughout the course of the year. This is because our planet rotates on a tilted axis and orbits around the sun - our perspective is constantly changing, but most people aren't aware enough to notice that ... they're too busy freaking out to take the time to understand WHY.
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Not like THE moon which has always been a staple of THE night has problems and never did before in their lifetimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27504274

Even as a child back in the 1980's, I can remember seeing the moon during the day sometimes. It's a myth that the moon in only present in the sky at night.

The problem is that most people don't pay any attention to such things until someone tricks them by pointing out the divergence from the myth, such as:
- the Sun is rising further south than normal (the Sun will continue to rise further south until the Winter Solstice, at which point it will start moving north until the Summer Solstice)

- the moon disappears (the moon is not always visible at night. sometimes its up during the day)

- Orion is not in the right position. Orion's position, like ALL of the space objects in our sky, will change position throughout the course of the year. This is because our planet rotates on a tilted axis and orbits around the sun - our perspective is constantly changing, but most people aren't aware enough to notice that ... they're too busy freaking out to take the time to understand WHY.
 Quoting: phoomp


Right, to me however that guy in the video, is not telling BS.

Or, do you think that the last time he did look at the sky was 6 month ago?

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Not only that, the SUN is in the wrong place too.

The LORD is revealing Himself to many people at this very moment. When I was a toddler I asked my mom how come God doesn't talk to people anymore like He did in the bible. The answer was because back then God talked to people but now he doesn't.

Well wouldn't you know just barely the other night God spoke to me? And it wasn't some sort of 'oh maybe this is the creator or an entity' ..no.. this was THE LORD because He TOLD ME HE IS TO BE CALLED LORD OR THE LORD. Now this happened the moment I rebuked the Devil in the name of God, while debating the concept of crime (how the devil is behind the wheel when people commit crime - lets face it who would rape old ladys right? One would have to be out of their mind right? Well they were for a few moments, just like if you are trying to drive on the freeway and think at the same time - do you see the car in front of you in that moment??)

So to the OP, you already know Orion is in the wrong place. My cousin is telling me the Sun is in the wrong place. The LORD told me I need to bring people to Him. And reports here are also coming from forum members that The LORD is telling them he is Pounding on the Door to their hearts, as the time is near.

Lots of people think Bible is buy bull, and Jesus is Gees us. But I say better safe than sorry, as I am a witness myself, with my own testimony available in these forums.

Your video proves to validate that things are not as they appear or as they should - let my writings above also prove the same. We don't know if there will be a pole shift, nuclear war or what not, but no worry if you're in Christ.
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Actually, it is illegal for MSM to disclose any abrupt changes that can incite mass panic w/o the governments permission first.

So don't expect the MSM to cover it. Even if amateur astronomers discover it, it won't be on the air.


Now, ask why EVERY modern clock has a network calibration tool? Especially since the quartz clock is accurate to only a few seconds error over thousands of years.

So why waste money, resources and bandwidth for something completely unnecessary?
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It's been over an hour. Either the shit hit the fan or he fell asleep. Like I should be doing. Or, maybe he is on the phone with NASA. Got to get past pressing 1 a dozen times before you can choose English to proceed. Then there's a ton of red tape to fight your way through which sends you to the janitor. After you convince him he doesn't need to sweep away and hide any dirt, you get a security. need to convince him you arent on GLP by talking about the latest on Fox news, then you get a scientist. When you convince him you aren't asking about Nibiru he may answer.

These things take time.
 Quoting: Serendipitous


It's probably gonna take a while. When he makes a video, he spends a good amount of time on it.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Not making a video. Somethings not adding up on the axial rotation measurement (and you all thought I was a "shill" - I'm honest, even when it's very likely nothing at all). Tonight I took a shortcut and just used my SLR with telephoto lens on a tripod rather than hauling out the whole telescope. I also only had a few minutes of a gap between clouds and then it was clouded up completely. But something about this picture I took isn't adding up...
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I'm consistently coming back to a distance of about 35 arcminutes for Polaris from the north celestial pole. That ain't right. It should be just shy of 41 arcminutes. Now, I've never calibrated this lens astrometrically before tonight, but I used the Polaris image itself as well as an earlier image I shot a few months back and they both resulted in about the same image scale of about 8.2 arcseconds per pixel at the resolution I'm using for analysis. Maybe I screwed my math up somewhere along the way, I'm running on very little sleep and I need to get some now if I'm every going to.

For the sake of sanity in the thread and so that people don't start killing themselves before I can solve this mystery, I've never tried to use my SLR camera by itself for this particular measurement before (I've always used my telescopes with the SLR catching the light at prime focus) and the 300mm telephoto lens I have is rather heavy. I'm thinking something settled or flexed on my camera tripod over the 8 minute exposure, causing the star trails to be artificially shifted by about 6 arcminutes (and for what it's worth, that's a small angle, one fifth the diameter of the moon's disc, it's not something Bubba in his trailer is going to notice just by casually looking and comparing by eye to a mountain range).

The telescopes I normally use are much beefier and sturdier. I'll repeat the measurement telescopically tomorrow. If telescopic measurement confirms it... I'll probably take a sniper bullet in the head because there's no way that kind of change could be kept secret without a mass assassination of every person like me.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I understand your frustration, but do you really have to use words like "Bubba" and "Trailer"? Even though this guy is wrong there is no need to offend him in such a way with such belittling language. Did that guy, in the video, offend you with words directed directly at you?

This is the kind of hateful language that has us in the present state we find ourselves today.

I respect your intelligence Astro but this kind of behavior is not necessary.

Namaste.

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Orion (the whole constellation of stars) is in the wrong place, but the rest of the sky is correctly in position?

Okay. Who the h*** is moving around Orion?!?!?!?!?
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Thats easy, ufo motherships positioning for the wormhole that will bring back the annunaki, its the agenda of the greys because the annunaki are there masters.
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Orion (the whole constellation of stars) is in the wrong place, but the rest of the sky is correctly in position?

Okay. Who the h*** is moving around Orion?!?!?!?!?
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Thats easy, ufo motherships positioning for the wormhole that will bring back the annunaki, its the agenda of the greys because the annunaki are there masters.
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Woops forgot this part, those motherships where always possing as stars or orions belt in this case.
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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
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It's been over an hour. Either the shit hit the fan or he fell asleep. Like I should be doing. Or, maybe he is on the phone with NASA. Got to get past pressing 1 a dozen times before you can choose English to proceed. Then there's a ton of red tape to fight your way through which sends you to the janitor. After you convince him he doesn't need to sweep away and hide any dirt, you get a security. need to convince him you arent on GLP by talking about the latest on Fox news, then you get a scientist. When you convince him you aren't asking about Nibiru he may answer.

These things take time.
 Quoting: Serendipitous


It's probably gonna take a while. When he makes a video, he spends a good amount of time on it.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Not making a video. Somethings not adding up on the axial rotation measurement (and you all thought I was a "shill" - I'm honest, even when it's very likely nothing at all). Tonight I took a shortcut and just used my SLR with telephoto lens on a tripod rather than hauling out the whole telescope. I also only had a few minutes of a gap between clouds and then it was clouded up completely. But something about this picture I took isn't adding up...
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I'm consistently coming back to a distance of about 35 arcminutes for Polaris from the north celestial pole. That ain't right. It should be just shy of 41 arcminutes. Now, I've never calibrated this lens astrometrically before tonight, but I used the Polaris image itself as well as an earlier image I shot a few months back and they both resulted in about the same image scale of about 8.2 arcseconds per pixel at the resolution I'm using for analysis. Maybe I screwed my math up somewhere along the way, I'm running on very little sleep and I need to get some now if I'm every going to.

For the sake of sanity in the thread and so that people don't start killing themselves before I can solve this mystery, I've never tried to use my SLR camera by itself for this particular measurement before (I've always used my telescopes with the SLR catching the light at prime focus) and the 300mm telephoto lens I have is rather heavy. I'm thinking something settled or flexed on my camera tripod over the 8 minute exposure, causing the star trails to be artificially shifted by about 6 arcminutes (and for what it's worth, that's a small angle, one fifth the diameter of the moon's disc, it's not something Bubba in his trailer is going to notice just by casually looking and comparing by eye to a mountain range).

The telescopes I normally use are much beefier and sturdier. I'll repeat the measurement telescopically tomorrow. If telescopic measurement confirms it... I'll probably take a sniper bullet in the head because there's no way that kind of change could be kept secret without a mass assassination of every person like me.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I understand your frustration, but do you really have to use words like "Bubba" and "Trailer"? Even though this guy is wrong there is no need to offend him in such a way with such belittling language. Did that guy, in the video, offend you with words directed directly at you?

This is the kind of hateful language that has us in the present state we find ourselves today.

I respect your intelligence Astro but this kind of behavior is not necessary.

Namaste.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I've always respected Astro's work even though he called me ignorant on another thread when I described how the sun was rising in the wrong place.

Which, by the way, it still is.

Anyway, Astro, be sure to post your findings. We're very interested.
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^^^

Just found your thread! Cool!
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Dr Astro started a new thread so he could continue to collect his paid disinformation shill money. He did it to DROP this thread, avoiding all the comments here, and got this thread unpinned and his new blather thread pinned instead.

Can't you people see how you are being lied to?
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And the dance continues...
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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
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it wasn't the same daytime was it?
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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
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interesting...
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my husband & I have noticed the sun setting in a different place from where we've watched it go down for 20 years.
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As if the sun always went down in the same place. It didn't and it doesn't and it never has.
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It's been over an hour. Either the shit hit the fan or he fell asleep. Like I should be doing. Or, maybe he is on the phone with NASA. Got to get past pressing 1 a dozen times before you can choose English to proceed. Then there's a ton of red tape to fight your way through which sends you to the janitor. After you convince him he doesn't need to sweep away and hide any dirt, you get a security. need to convince him you arent on GLP by talking about the latest on Fox news, then you get a scientist. When you convince him you aren't asking about Nibiru he may answer.

These things take time.
 Quoting: Serendipitous


It's probably gonna take a while. When he makes a video, he spends a good amount of time on it.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


As if he has to disprove every ridiculous notion about ths ky posted on GLP and hasn't already made vids showing things in the sky to be exactly where they belong.
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You all missed it. It's the satellites leaving the solar system. They're pushing the outermost layer of our solar system out of round and causing distortions. Anybody should have caught that.

But, more seriously, there were a lot of negative attacks against the op. If the dude says a star is out of its place, it either is out of place or it is not. From his point of view it might have at least looked out of place.

The moon's looking a little strange tonight. I hope nobody calls me a fat hillbilly for saying that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25166254


Good point, AC!
Sometimes you can really SPOT THE SHILLS....
they immediately log on after the OP starts his
thread....and ATTACK THE PERSON...ignoring TOTALLY
the message which he/she brings. That is typical
for shill--whether paid or not!
This person is obviously VERY UPSET ABOUT WHAT HE
IS SEEING. The placement of the stars when you
live in an arid region such as he is ARE HUGE
LANDMARKS. It would be like if you lived downtown
New York City....and woke up one morning to find
that the EMPIRE STATE BUIDING HAD MOVED 30 city blocks!
I think it would freak you out, right?
Anyways....I believe that HE BELIEVES what he is
saying--and we need to be grown ups and respect
people for even having the courage to come in here
and post their observations!
Maybe the FALSE SKY above him has a glitch in
the MATRIX PROGRAM....who knows?
....Just sayin'
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As the trolls say...not sure if serious.



Not to the man...but to the GLP attention. This must be a controlled burn. Expose it...shill it/deal with it...move on. Sorta like a TEE S making a white sun page on the front page.

Who cares about Orion being out of place when the damn moon hasnt been right in over a year?




Ya know for the bible to be such supposed bs it sure is funny its the only thing out there telling us there would be signs in the sun (white super bright sun)...moon (gone for over a week at a time) and stars (strange stars and now orion) in the end times/last days.

The shills hold tight to this because they got everything riding on this. Oh how they have played this disguised game for so long. Well time is almost up and they arent gonna have to play your internet buddies much longer. Soon the true them will come out and when that happens its gonna be too late for the un believers in the lord and the skeptics.
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On that note, I too have noticed that "Orion" is no longer rising off the eve of my house as it used too. It's now rising over my tree in the yard which is strange. Orion hasn't moved however. So something about my axial alignment has shifted. Or the ground under me has slightly swiveled. It's impossible for Orion to have moved. It's not impossible for me to have shifted ever-so slightly some degrees.


 Quoting: Top Hat


"Shifted ever-so slightly"? A shift of enough to move Orion several degrees across the horizon would mean much of the world's population would be dead.
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uh oh, don't usually pay much attention to these types of posts...but this guy (Astromut) is good.
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cruise

You're kidding right?
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However the guy seems telling the true, however he forgot to say that he always saw Orion rising on that place in that winter season this because it can moves a bit due to earth's axis inclination (not because everyday shilltards field rotation BS).

You know, even the sun change up to 15 degrees from East to South in winter time (rise) and up to 15 degrees from West to North in Summer time (set).

Anyway the sideway moon is a fact and its not normal at all.





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OMG... are you STILL pounding on this same nonsense?
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On that note, I too have noticed that "Orion" is no longer rising off the eve of my house as it used too. It's now rising over my tree in the yard which is strange. Orion hasn't moved however. So something about my axial alignment has shifted. Or the ground under me has slightly swiveled. It's impossible for Orion to have moved. It's not impossible for me to have shifted ever-so slightly some degrees.


 Quoting: Top Hat


"Shifted ever-so slightly"? A shift of enough to move Orion several degrees across the horizon would mean much of the world's population would be dead.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



Merely a slight case of 'polar wander'.
Nothing to be alarmed about.
You are a nervous nellie, aren't you..?

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