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Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

 
Menow
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Ok sooooo.... I did what i always tell everyone else to do .. check stellarium before panicking... well I have to say that according to stellarium, Orion should be in the north east sky at about 45 degree angle up from the horizon with the location set to where i am at maroochydore, queensland australia... ok so lets go outside and check that shall we...

When I went outside to check it.. it is directly over my house, vertically up.. a little to the west of the north south line... WTF.. stellarium DOES NOT MATCH where it is.. if there are any other aussies online please check this also..

Stellarium and the location of Orion real time DO NOT MATCH.. this has never happened to me in 4 yrs of using it.. WTF!..
 Quoting: EW 28946474


ok WTF... i just checked the moon rise and set times for brisbane australia... the moon is already in the sky yet wtf is this saying ... Fri, 7 Dec 2012*
05:51 120° 13:12 76N° 20:32 240° 05:20 21:03.. yep.. not supposed to be rising for another 4 freaking hours... its 2am on the 7th of december here now.. how the fuck is the moon up???...

Ok.. now this shit is really freaking me out..
 Quoting: EW 28946474


Ok here is the thing with the moon.. i made a mistake, i read the meridan time not the rise time .. my bad .. however.. stellarium shows that the moon will not be rising till the meridan time on the moon chart.. so im totally confused now... according to stellarium, the moon should not be in the sky till 5 am ish.. is this a glitch in stellarium or has the shit hit the proverbial fan.. ??
 Quoting: EW 28946474


cruise
 Quoting: DUCM900


You are invited to show how modern sky programs don't match printed materials from DECADES ago.
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12/06/2012 11:27 AM
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.the whole sky has shifted
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Except that it hasn't.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Got a link for that...? Any proof..?
Maybe a video..?

lmao
 Quoting: Waterbug


You actually think that people have to make a video to disprove every wild claim made on the internet? Astro has already made vids showing sky objects to be exactly where they belong. Did you ignore them? Of course you did.

Links? How about you Google for astronomy forums. There are plenty of them. Funny how astronomers haven't noticed the sky being out of place. yawn
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.the whole sky has shifted
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Except that it hasn't.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Got a link for that...? Any proof..?
Maybe a video..?

lmao
 Quoting: Waterbug


Where is any link video or proof from the guy who said "the whole sky has shifted"?
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.the whole sky has shifted
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Except that it hasn't.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Got a link for that...? Any proof..?
Maybe a video..?

lmao
 Quoting: Waterbug


Where is any link, video or proof from the guy who said "the whole sky has shifted"?
Menow
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12/06/2012 11:32 AM
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It could be something completely bizarre to us all.

Like a huge gas release floating in the upper atmosphere, lensing the light causing distortions.

Continental twisting just before a large earthquake

Galactic longwave causing perception changes

Intelligent aliens fucking with us for laughs

Astros acct could be hacked
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Or, it could be that "trailer park guy" is full of shit.
Menow
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12/06/2012 11:38 AM
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However the guy seems telling the true, however he forgot to say that he always saw Orion rising on that place in that winter season this because it can moves a bit due to earth's axis inclination (not because everyday shilltards field rotation BS).

You know, even the sun change up to 15 degrees from East to South in winter time (rise) and up to 15 degrees from West to North in Summer time (set).

Anyway the sideway moon is a fact and its not normal at all.





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 Quoting: DUCM900


OMG... are you STILL pounding on this same nonsense?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I don't think that it's "NONSENSE!" I don't
recall seeing a "normal" moon phase with what
is filmed in that video, dude!
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


You have never seen a "half-moon" phase before?


Unless this is a video of a moon eclipse...there
is something VERY STRANGE about that moon!
Hmmmmm......
SK
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


How so? Please be specific.

P.S. If everyone is all "GEE...IT'S O.K....IT'S
JUST THE EARTH "WOOBLE!" when something odd happens
with the weather, etc. but how about the Earth
starting to move like a "SIN-WAVE" on it's eliptical?
If it was to do a temporary "dip" along an otherwise
normal rotation, then "bob-up" again, the position
of certain stars might seem out of place. Donnno!
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


Sorry, but I can't make any sense out of what you said there- starting with "... If everyone is all "GEE...". What" All GEE?
Menow
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12/06/2012 11:40 AM
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Do you people not understand that Earth rotates?
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Sorry but seem that an amoebas is smarter than you if you keep writing such a fool stuff.




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 Quoting: DUCM900


So you also don't understand that the constellations will be in different locations just a couple hours later?
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12/06/2012 11:42 AM
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"Shifted ever-so slightly"? A shift of enough to move Orion several degrees across the horizon would mean much of the world's population would be dead.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200



Merely a slight case of 'polar wander'.
Nothing to be alarmed about.
You are a nervous nellie, aren't you..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Slight"? That guy is claiming a shift of many degrees. No, I'm not the least bit nervous about it since it hasn't really happened.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Astro is on it.... claiming an anomaly.

Reboot..
 Quoting: Waterbug


You don't understand the difference between many degrees and a few arc-seconds?
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Merely a slight case of 'polar wander'.
Nothing to be alarmed about.
You are a nervous nellie, aren't you..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Slight"? That guy is claiming a shift of many degrees. No, I'm not the least bit nervous about it since it hasn't really happened.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Astro is on it.... claiming an anomaly.

Reboot..
 Quoting: Waterbug


You don't understand the difference between many degrees and a few arc-seconds?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who said that..?

I didn't designate it an anomaly.... Astro did..

Reboot.
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It could be something completely bizarre to us all.

Like a huge gas release floating in the upper atmosphere, lensing the light causing distortions.

Continental twisting just before a large earthquake

Galactic longwave causing perception changes

Intelligent aliens fucking with us for laughs

Astros acct could be hacked
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Or, it could be that "trailer park guy" is full of shit.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Don't be a moron.

What you are practicing is pseudoskepticism...the ridicule and attacking of a person making a claim and not the evidence for his claim

The guy on the video made a claim about what he believed he saw in the sky and your Queen Mother Astromut did in fact find an anomaly in his first attempt to "debunk" the claim.

Why don't you withdraw your head from you anus and wait for all the evidence to be produced before claiming anyone is full of anything...or grow a sack and admit that maybe this guy found something.
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12/06/2012 11:48 AM
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Anyway the sideway moon is a fact and its not normal at all.





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Let's try this again... Do you understand that the Moon has a north pole which faces the same direction as does Earth's north pole- toward Polaris?
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12/06/2012 11:50 AM
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"Slight"? That guy is claiming a shift of many degrees. No, I'm not the least bit nervous about it since it hasn't really happened.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Astro is on it.... claiming an anomaly.

Reboot..
 Quoting: Waterbug


You don't understand the difference between many degrees and a few arc-seconds?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Who said that..?

I didn't designate it an anomaly.... Astro did..

Reboot.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I said that. It is a question. Trailer Park Guy is claiming an anomaly of many degrees. Astro is talking about something which might be a problem with his camera, amounting to an amount nowhere near enough to be seen with the naked eye. Don't you understand that difference?
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However the guy seems telling the true, however he forgot to say that he always saw Orion rising on that place in that winter season this because it can moves a bit due to earth's axis inclination (not because everyday shilltards field rotation BS).

You know, even the sun change up to 15 degrees from East to South in winter time (rise) and up to 15 degrees from West to North in Summer time (set).

Anyway the sideway moon is a fact and its not normal at all.





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 Quoting: DUCM900


OMG... are you STILL pounding on this same nonsense?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I don't think that it's "NONSENSE!" I don't
recall seeing a "normal" moon phase with what
is filmed in that video, dude!
Unless this is a video of a moon eclipse...there
is something VERY STRANGE about that moon!
Hmmmmm......
SK

 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


...and consider also that this video was filmed in very high latitude. Anyway even in the equator zone where it can rotates just a bit due the wide earth's circumference, the sideway moon its not contemplated, infact you will never see just an image of that in the books as an photo/illustration as well.


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Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/06/2012 11:58 AM
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It could be something completely bizarre to us all.

Like a huge gas release floating in the upper atmosphere, lensing the light causing distortions.

Continental twisting just before a large earthquake

Galactic longwave causing perception changes

Intelligent aliens fucking with us for laughs

Astros acct could be hacked
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Or, it could be that "trailer park guy" is full of shit.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Don't be a moron.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094960


So Trailer Park Guy can't be full of shit?

What you are practicing is pseudoskepticism...the ridicule and attacking of a person making a claim and not the evidence for his claim
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094960


Umm... what "evidence" is that?

The guy on the video made a claim about what he believed he saw in the sky and your Queen Mother Astromut did in fact find an anomaly in his first attempt to "debunk" the claim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094960


So you, too, don't understand that the "anomaly" Astro is investigating is nowhere NEAR enough to be seen by eye? What Astro found already completely disproves Trailer Park Guy. How do not see that?

Why don't you withdraw your head from you anus and wait for all the evidence to be produced before claiming anyone is full of anything...or grow a sack and admit that maybe this guy found something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094960


Heh... right... Trailer Park Guy walked out of his trailer and made the biggest astronomical discovery in the history of mankind and tens of thousands of astronomers, all around the world, have missed it. Right...
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However the guy seems telling the true, however he forgot to say that he always saw Orion rising on that place in that winter season this because it can moves a bit due to earth's axis inclination (not because everyday shilltards field rotation BS).

You know, even the sun change up to 15 degrees from East to South in winter time (rise) and up to 15 degrees from West to North in Summer time (set).

Anyway the sideway moon is a fact and its not normal at all.





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 Quoting: DUCM900


OMG... are you STILL pounding on this same nonsense?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I don't think that it's "NONSENSE!" I don't
recall seeing a "normal" moon phase with what
is filmed in that video, dude!
Unless this is a video of a moon eclipse...there
is something VERY STRANGE about that moon!
Hmmmmm......
SK

 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


...and consider also that this video was filmed in very high latitude. Anyway even in the equator zone where it can rotates just a bit due the wide circumference, the sideway moon its not contemplated, infact you will never see just an image of that in the books as an illustration.


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What makes you say that vid was made at a "very high latitude"? Google "crescent moon" and see LOTS of images of the moon similar to that over many years.
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What if Astro verifies the anomaly..?

What then, menow..? Will you suck up all that shit you've spewed..?
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What if Astro verifies the anomaly..?

What then, menow..? Will you suck up all that shit you've spewed..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


I really dont care what astrotard will write.

Anyway plz don't feed the nonsense stupid trolls, the web is full of FOOLS & GARBAGE DISINFOS.


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regardless if he says "orion always rises from the back of my trailer" he needs to show what direction the back of his trailer points( N,S,E,OR W.) then ppl can atleast check any space programme.stellerium for instance but without the direction nobody can confirm or deny it..
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What if Astro verifies the anomaly..?

What then, menow..? Will you suck up all that shit you've spewed..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


When I have I said anything against a (supposed) anomaly on the scale Astro is looking into? I have not. Clearly you don't have a clue about the SCALE of these things and the VAST difference between Trailer Park Guy's claim and Astro's investigation.
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What if Astro verifies the anomaly..?

What then, menow..? Will you suck up all that shit you've spewed..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


I really dont care what atrotard will write.

Anyway plz don't feed the nonsense stupid trolls.


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 Quoting: DUCM900


So, once again, you are going to say that no science is presented to counter your "sideway moon" claim, but ignore what is presented. How droll. Here it is again:

Let's try this again... Do you understand that the Moon has a north pole which faces the same direction as does Earth's north pole- toward Polaris?
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So, once again, you are going to say that no science is presented to counter your "sideway moon" claim, but ignore what is presented. How droll. Here it is again:

Let's try this again... Do you understand that the Moon has a north pole which faces the same direction as does Earth's north pole- toward Polaris?
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It could be something completely bizarre to us all.

Like a huge gas release floating in the upper atmosphere, lensing the light causing distortions.

Continental twisting just before a large earthquake

Galactic longwave causing perception changes

Intelligent aliens fucking with us for laughs

Astros acct could be hacked
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Or, it could be that "trailer park guy" is full of shit.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Don't be a moron.

What you are practicing is pseudoskepticism...the ridicule and attacking of a person making a claim and not the evidence for his claim

The guy on the video made a claim about what he believed he saw in the sky and your Queen Mother Astromut did in fact find an anomaly in his first attempt to "debunk" the claim.

Why don't you withdraw your head from you anus and wait for all the evidence to be produced before claiming anyone is full of anything...or grow a sack and admit that maybe this guy found something.
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It could be something completely bizarre to us all.

Like a huge gas release floating in the upper atmosphere, lensing the light causing distortions.

Continental twisting just before a large earthquake

Galactic longwave causing perception changes

Intelligent aliens fucking with us for laughs

Astros acct could be hacked
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Or, it could be that "trailer park guy" is full of shit.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Don't be a moron.

What you are practicing is pseudoskepticism...the ridicule and attacking of a person making a claim and not the evidence for his claim

The guy on the video made a claim about what he believed he saw in the sky and your Queen Mother Astromut did in fact find an anomaly in his first attempt to "debunk" the claim.

Why don't you withdraw your head from you anus and wait for all the evidence to be produced before claiming anyone is full of anything...or grow a sack and admit that maybe this guy found something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094960


I already posted a substantive response to that. Are you just going to ignore it?
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Someone please tell that phat phuq about seasons...

O_o

The stupid... It hurts.
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Someone please tell that phat phuq about seasons...

O_o

The stupid... It hurts.
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Sorry, but the constellations don't move along the horizon with the changing seasons. Their rising times is what changes with the seasons.
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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
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Do you people not understand that Earth rotates?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Do you honestly believe they do not? I can't tell which is worse.

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Someone please tell that phat phuq about seasons...

O_o

The stupid... It hurts.
 Quoting: AxE


Sorry, but the constellations don't move along the horizon with the changing seasons. Their rising times is what changes with the seasons.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Hmm, LOL

The constellations that you see in the Northern Hemisphere's winter sky—Orion, Taurus, Canis Major, and others—gradually move westward with time, rising above the eastern horizon approximately four minutes earlier each evening. By late spring and early summer, the winter constellations are on the western horizon in the early evening and Leo, Bootes, Cygnus, and Sagittarius dominates the night sky. In the fall, Pegasus, Aquila, and Lyra brighten the heavens. A number of polar constellations (Cephus, Cassiopeia, and Ursa Minor in the north and Crux, Centaurus, and Pavo in the south) are visible all year as they rotate about points directly above the North and South Poles.

Read more: Constellation - Constellations, Stars, Celestial, and Ursa - JRank Articles [link to science.jrank.org]