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Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

 
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Anyone here knows where was that video filmed?


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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9718093


Do you people not understand that Earth rotates?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Do you honestly believe they do not? I can't tell which is worse.

Say hi to Shepard for me!
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Then why don't they seem to realize that Orion will be in a different part of the sky during the same night just a couple hours later or earlier?
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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9718093


Do you people not understand that Earth rotates?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Do you honestly believe they do not? I can't tell which is worse.

Say hi to Shepard for me!
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Yeah, that fucking Menow has been trolling this whole thread, Obvious troll is obvious. Time to chat up a mod.

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Someone please tell that phat phuq about seasons...

O_o

The stupid... It hurts.
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Sorry, but the constellations don't move along the horizon with the changing seasons. Their rising times is what changes with the seasons.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Hmm, LOL

The constellations that you see in the Northern Hemisphere's winter sky—Orion, Taurus, Canis Major, and others—gradually move westward with time, rising above the eastern horizon approximately four minutes earlier each evening. By late spring and early summer, the winter constellations are on the western horizon in the early evening and Leo, Bootes, Cygnus, and Sagittarius dominates the night sky. In the fall, Pegasus, Aquila, and Lyra brighten the heavens. A number of polar constellations (Cephus, Cassiopeia, and Ursa Minor in the north and Crux, Centaurus, and Pavo in the south) are visible all year as they rotate about points directly above the North and South Poles.

Read more: Constellation - Constellations, Stars, Celestial, and Ursa - JRank Articles [link to science.jrank.org]
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Yes, and? The constellations don't rise at differing locations on the horizon as the seasons progress- they rise earlier. He is talking about Orion's "normal rising spot", as he says in the vid description.
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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9718093


Do you people not understand that Earth rotates?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Do you honestly believe they do not? I can't tell which is worse.

Say hi to Shepard for me!
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Yeah, that fucking Menow has been trolling this whole thread, Obvious troll is obvious. Time to chat up a mod.
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So somebody posting things you don't want to accept is grounds for complaining to a mod? Seriously?
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Anyone here knows where was that video filmed?


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I would guess Arizona.
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Anyone here knows where was that video filmed?


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Someone?

Thats to know when the Orion constellation started to rise in his location.
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12/06/2012 01:29 PM
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the earth has tilted at some degrees hence why the constellation orion has appeared in a different location. Same to as why the moon is tilted nearly sideways recentley.

Not rocket science. eyes open, no fear.
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My sister and I were getting out of the car the other night and as she started toward her own car to go home she asked me where Orion was.

I was busy getting stuff out of my car and didn't look up, but told her it was right over Mrs.-----'s house.

Her answer was that it wasn't.

So I looked, expecting to point it out, but she was right--it wasn't there.
It was quite a bit further north and higher up than it was just a couple of nights before when my son and I were looking at it. I had to really look to find it.

I don't know how it could've moved that far so fast, but I'm telling you exactly what happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9718093


Do you people not understand that Earth rotates?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Methinks ,,,menow is Dr Astro
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The more you are near the equator line, the more the objects in the sky moves less (I mean on the rise/set zone just up on the horizon line).

SO its supposed that the guy well knows his stuff, I mean that the constellation started to appear in winter pretty in the same horizon location.

That's why he claim the big differences. Period.




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Hello,

you can compare your view with the view of a sotfware named stellarium, you just have to put your gps coordinates and the date.

I think everything is normal.
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12/06/2012 01:34 PM
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[link to www.math.nus.edu.sg]
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12/06/2012 01:36 PM
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This video demonstration shows a massive pole shift and how the sky would look different.

Astro is talking about a very very small change that can't be seen with the naked eye, but if it moved, it could continue moving right?

[link to www.skywise711.com]
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the earth has tilted at some degrees hence why the constellation orion has appeared in a different location.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25109863


Except that it hasn't. Trailer Park Guy has not discovered something the world's astronomers have missed.

Same to as why the moon is tilted nearly sideways recentley.

Not rocket science. eyes open, no fear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25109863


No, not rocket science. It's called "field rotation" and affects sky objects observed from a rotating Earth. Look it up on telescope sites like MEADE.
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The more you are near the equator line, the more the objects in the sky moves less (I mean on the rise/set zone just up on the horizon line).

SO its supposed that the guy well knows his stuff, I mean that the constellation started to appear in winter pretty in the same horizon location.

That's why he claim the big differences. Period.




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 Quoting: DUCM900


Wrong. The constellations don't change rising locations on the horizon, no matter where you are on Earth.
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the earth has tilted at some degrees hence why the constellation orion has appeared in a different location. Same to as why the moon is tilted nearly sideways recentley.

Not rocket science. eyes open, no fear.
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Full Agreed.
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but if it moved, it could continue moving right?

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Not really. What makes you think that? The energy needed to shift Earth's rotation to a significant degree is MASSIVE.
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Someone please tell that phat phuq about seasons...

O_o

The stupid... It hurts.
 Quoting: AxE


Sorry, but the constellations don't move along the horizon with the changing seasons. Their rising times is what changes with the seasons.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Hmm, LOL

The constellations that you see in the Northern Hemisphere's winter sky—Orion, Taurus, Canis Major, and others—gradually move westward with time, rising above the eastern horizon approximately four minutes earlier each evening. By late spring and early summer, the winter constellations are on the western horizon in the early evening and Leo, Bootes, Cygnus, and Sagittarius dominates the night sky. In the fall, Pegasus, Aquila, and Lyra brighten the heavens. A number of polar constellations (Cephus, Cassiopeia, and Ursa Minor in the north and Crux, Centaurus, and Pavo in the south) are visible all year as they rotate about points directly above the North and South Poles.

Read more: Constellation - Constellations, Stars, Celestial, and Ursa - JRank Articles [link to science.jrank.org]
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Yes, and? The constellations don't rise at differing locations on the horizon as the seasons progress- they rise earlier. He is talking about Orion's "normal rising spot", as he says in the vid description.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Help me understand why on Dec 24th Orion's belt is aligned with the sunrise?
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Anyone here knows where was that video filmed?


 Quoting: DUCM900
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Beatty Nevada
that same youtube poster has this uploaded video on his channel

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Sorry, but the constellations don't move along the horizon with the changing seasons. Their rising times is what changes with the seasons.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Hmm, LOL

The constellations that you see in the Northern Hemisphere's winter sky—Orion, Taurus, Canis Major, and others—gradually move westward with time, rising above the eastern horizon approximately four minutes earlier each evening. By late spring and early summer, the winter constellations are on the western horizon in the early evening and Leo, Bootes, Cygnus, and Sagittarius dominates the night sky. In the fall, Pegasus, Aquila, and Lyra brighten the heavens. A number of polar constellations (Cephus, Cassiopeia, and Ursa Minor in the north and Crux, Centaurus, and Pavo in the south) are visible all year as they rotate about points directly above the North and South Poles.

Read more: Constellation - Constellations, Stars, Celestial, and Ursa - JRank Articles [link to science.jrank.org]
 Quoting: AxE


Yes, and? The constellations don't rise at differing locations on the horizon as the seasons progress- they rise earlier. He is talking about Orion's "normal rising spot", as he says in the vid description.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Help me understand why on Dec 24th Orion's belt is aligned with the sunrise?
 Quoting: AxE


What? It isn't. Orion is deep in the night sky in winter.
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5) And how are sure he is not telling the truth?
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Because if he was, most of us would be dead.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Not necessarily------------how do YOU know that?

All he said was that Orion's usual position was off.
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1. Never trust a guy that runs out if breath after taking 12 steps...
2. He lives in a trailer...
3. He wears a survival bracelet
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So all people who live in trialers and wear survival bracelets are wackos?

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????​??????????wtf?????????????????????????????????

I used to live in a trailer many years ago------does that make me a retarded nutzoid?

Sorry. I guess I don't live in a palace staffed with servants and homemade, ready-to-use bunkers like you.

Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeee​eeee me.
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5) And how are sure he is not telling the truth?
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Because if he was, most of us would be dead.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Not necessarily------------how do YOU know that?

All he said was that Orion's usual position was off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29217019


We know what he said. If Earth's axis suddenly shifted 25 degrees there would be MASSIVE ramifications. There would certainly be no internet and most of Earth's population would be dead.
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Hmm, LOL

The constellations that you see in the Northern Hemisphere's winter sky—Orion, Taurus, Canis Major, and others—gradually move westward with time, rising above the eastern horizon approximately four minutes earlier each evening. By late spring and early summer, the winter constellations are on the western horizon in the early evening and Leo, Bootes, Cygnus, and Sagittarius dominates the night sky. In the fall, Pegasus, Aquila, and Lyra brighten the heavens. A number of polar constellations (Cephus, Cassiopeia, and Ursa Minor in the north and Crux, Centaurus, and Pavo in the south) are visible all year as they rotate about points directly above the North and South Poles.

Read more: Constellation - Constellations, Stars, Celestial, and Ursa - JRank Articles [link to science.jrank.org]
 Quoting: AxE


Yes, and? The constellations don't rise at differing locations on the horizon as the seasons progress- they rise earlier. He is talking about Orion's "normal rising spot", as he says in the vid description.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Help me understand why on Dec 24th Orion's belt is aligned with the sunrise?
 Quoting: AxE


What? It isn't. Orion is deep in the night sky in winter.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You sir, aren't a tard, thanks for playing "don't troll my ass" ;)
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Hmm fat hillibilly astronomer, ill go with crazy thanks
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On what sort of proof?

Are you qualified to prove him wrong?

Just asking.....................................

And thanks for the "fat" reference. I'm fat and I resetn that.

Very much. Dumb-ass retard Illuminati sex-slave idiot fuck.
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You're not fat you're pleasantly plump. :)

hugs
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Thank you for the South Park reference for comfort. I am the poster of that original post.

Again, thanks. rockon
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Constellations 'moves' on the horizon as the sun 'moves' as well during the year. Nothing new here right?



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Constellations moves as the sun 'moves' as well during the year. Nothing new here right?
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Not sure what you are referring to.
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5) And how are sure he is not telling the truth?
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Because if he was, most of us would be dead.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Not necessarily------------how do YOU know that?

All he said was that Orion's usual position was off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29217019


We know what he said. If Earth's axis suddenly shifted 25 degrees there would be MASSIVE ramifications. There would certainly be no internet and most of Earth's population would be dead.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Then it does not necessarily have to be earth's axis, now----wouldn't it?

Could be one of a dozen things.

1) Could be an increase in the vibrational level of our reality, making us ready for some sort of "ascension" of some sort.

2) Could also be a combination of that AND an axis problem.

3) Could also be like the guy from Finland said early in the thread-----our reality is shifting and changing and it may accelretae by Dec 21.

4) The Finnish guy also said that if it WAS an axis problem, EVRYTHING would be off kilter by now.
So yes, you and he may have a point.

5) Just because it is is not an obvious axis problem does not mean soemthing is not happening here that earth-shaking and history-making. Some are being too literal and "obvious" here. Just saying.
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Constellations 'moves' on the horizon as the sun 'moves' as well during the year. Nothing new here right?



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This is for AxE user.
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Inuits of Alaska report bizarre changes in the position of the sun and the stars.

[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Of course some may say here:

"What do dumb, superstitious, still-half-primitive Indians know about astronomy and constellations anyway, right?" rolleyes1doh1agumball

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