Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

You got the point of what I intended then..........thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. It would.

Then name 11 more.



Oh fuck....



There is no "axis problem".



Oh fuck...



Gee thanks.



Oh fuck... let's not be "literal"- let's be obtuse and vague and run our lives based on internet rumors, myths and hysterics, shall we? Why don't YOU go ahead and do that...

Actually, no one has described them that way at all. They are just some guys who live in modern housing and use snowmobiles and high-powered rifles when they hunt. They are not "elders-who-know-because-they-live-off-the-land".

:)

Oh, I get it..............skeptic materialist. Gotcha.

Guess there is nothing else to say then.........except........

Ok, it's all just a delusion of our paranoid believing brains and there's nothing going on right now.

We'll continue as a species on the upward track for the hundred years or so until we reach the stars and then we will start colonizing planets, after we will evolve to the extent where we achieve Immortality of the Body and get rid of such annoying things as Religion, Spirituality, and replace those with soemthing much more realistic and worthwhile, like worship of of such brilliant minds as Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris.

In the meantime, the "scientific method" states that ANYTHING that is outside of an "expert"'s usual knowledge is obviously wrong and can be easily explained by "physical causes combined with paranoid delusion."

Which is what most everybody in this site, except some very few truly enlightened and rational minds like you, have.

Thanks for reminding me of that. I will know know better than to question something you have decalred as fact. Please forgive everybody in this site that looks at things differently than you and has the gall to disagree with you.

We just don't know any better.

So tell me, honored sir..........

What is the cause of people seeing illusions of this sort?

Mass psychosis? End times hysteria? What?

I await your answer with bated breath and dunce cap on, honored sir.

Still, there is a stereotype in some quarters of "I'm an expert, and my expertise carries more 'weight' than some Indians that have been watching the stars for thousands of years and know their way them have."

It's not about what they are "seeing". It is about the interpretation of what they are seeing based on their memory, which they insist can't be wrong. That makes it a choice between their memory being faulty or the astronomical community all being in on a massive coverup of the whole thing. I'll ask you: Which is more likely?

Could be--------

OTOH, other people other than these snowmobile riding-Indians have been seeing things like these lately......

What is the explanation for those? ALL of them just mistaken interpretation?

If so----how come Dr. Astro says he found a problem too?

And where is he, anyway? he was supposed to get back to us with new findigns with other equipment.

So you don't believe there is any such thing as the science of astronomy or any people who have expertise in that area? "Indians"? What "Indians"? Where do we get to hear from these "Indians" who DO actually study the sky in a critical way? What about all the ancient monuments which still mark the solstices accurately? Do the "Indians" who built those monuments not count?

shameless

"Seeing things"? What does that mean? I think you mean interpreting things they see in the sky, hmm?



Yes. That and internet hysteria. Google: "The Seattle Windshield Pitting Epidemic" [link to www.google.com (secure)]



Do you know what an "arcminute" is? Astro's "problem" is not anywhere near the same scale as the "out of place" people are claiming.



It's daytime. I think he said he would try again tonight to get more accurate readings with a good telescope instead of a camera and tripod.

...just a little pole shift, no worries people.

Do you have an 'pay per post' contract? You must be workin' overtime in this thread.

Have anything factual to offer on the subject? I'm killing a little time till I have to get to work. Don't worry, though... I can still post from there.

OK then:
either fix it
or
bear with the new location.

Da duh !

Why do you want 'anything factual'? You would deny it in a second. And i would get banned again. I have dicussed these things often enough with you...

I have never had anything to do with having anyone banned- ever.

Discuss away. What facts do you have? Please avoid all the anecdotal stories from people who don't really know how the sky works.

aNONYMOUS cOWARD...
Have you done ANY RESEARCH on the Orion Constellation
or on the Orion Trapezium area at all?
I'm telling you AC, there is something VERY VERY
STRANGE about this constellation. NASA photos of
it are fantastic and beautiful....BUT THAT'S NOT
ALL!
There is currently a thread on GLP (actually 2
threads) that are trying to bring the RESEARCH
ON ORION out of the secret halls of the VATICAN
(where information about it's strangeness has bee
kept a secret for 100s of years!....Yet, the
shape and definite correspondences of locations
within the Nebula are ALL OVER THE VATICAN IN THEIR
PAINTINGS AND FRESCOS!
Please keep an open mind about ORION and do your
own research on it before you criticize this
OP!
Here is a link:
Thread: UHOH...12-03-12 Planet alignment SAME 10,900 B.C. Egypt AND Velokovski's "Collision?"
I reference the research of Danny Wilten and
all of his videos there!
WE HAVEN'T HEARD THE END OF THE ORION "STRANGENESS"
YET!
Cheers!
SK

OP--INTERESTING OBSERVATION!

May I ask you a question?
Do you want to know MORE ABOUT THE CONSTELLATION
"ORION?"
Everyone so far has been telling you that:
"OH! THIS couldn't possibly be happening....if
ORION had moved that far in the sky...we would
have a global pole shift....or the rest of the
sky would have moved!! Etc....Etc...Etc...
Let's say that THIS CHANGE IN POSITION over
your home is NOT for the whole world...but it
is some kind of bazaar message FOR YOU PERSONALLY!
Watch the following video....and check out the
rest of Danny Wilten's research--you really owe
it to yourself to FIND OUT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN
ABOUT THE CONSTELLATION THAT'S TRYING TO GET
YOUR ATTENTION!
Who cares if it isn't effecting the rest of
THE WORLD....It is obviously effecting YOUR
REALITY--find out what other people are seeing
in the Orion phenomenon and see if it rings
true for you. This is really HUGE, OP...and
it may change your life if you understand what
ORION is revealing to you and the people who
live in this area!
This video was posted on a GLP thread 7/07/2012.
IT was the so called"Break-through" video
announcement by researcher Danny Wilten and
he takes you step by step through what he has
found....KEEP AN OPEN MIND--He's not trying to
convert anyone to Egyptian religiouns, etc....
it is JUST ABOUT ASTRONOMY at this point! But
....then again, it could mean more to you
PERSONALLY! Don't worry about all the insults.
If ORION CHOOSES YOU and wants your attention
for whatever reason...I think you must be
pretty damned special!
[link to www.youtube.com]
Enjoy your JOURNEY...SEEING ORION IN A NEW
PLACE IN YOUR SKY IS A HUGE DEAL! Congratulations!
SK

You should be reported to mods for hijacking this thread with your BS. You can speak your piece and move on, but NO, you have to confront EVERYBODY on this thread, stupid ass shill, go hijack an obama lovers thread, ya dirty fuck stick.

Last Edited by M*walk on 12/06/2012 07:21 PM

Well, I'm convinced. Dude points camera at one spot and says Orion was there, then point camera at another spot and says now it's over there. Presents no evidence whatsoever, but he sounds pretty sure of himself, so it must be true. He even dropped an F-bomb a few times so we knew he was serious [/sarcasm]

Orion has always been located at:
Right Ascension: 5 hours
Declination: 5 degrees
Visible between latitudes 85 and -75 degrees
[link to www.astro.wisc.edu]
(you should be able to verify this at any library, so that you can be assured that "They" haven't modified the information)



Without providing alternate coordinates with which to verify (which should be easy enough to do for an amateur astronomer), his claim is worthless.

Last Edited by phoomp on 12/06/2012 10:31 PM

Do NONE of you people have software that pinpoints where stars should be using data that you give it for your own location?


ORION is where it should be.
Look it up.

Oh, they do, but they all believe that "They" have modified the software as part of some cover up.

i fear a galactic illegal parking ticket was served and it got towed away and impounded.... just pay the fines dudes.....

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 12/06/2012 11:29 PM

pole shift

Well, this is the third thread about orion in the wrong place since 2007.

Now, I am much more intrigued to know if Astromut confirmed the 6 arcseconds dicrepancy of polaris position he observed wrt where it should had been.

Whoever claims that a constellation if off its place, should compare positions on the same date on consecutive years. Anything else is just plain ignorance about how the apparent movement of sky objects works.

(red txt) and the sideway moon started to appear with minor frequency from 2007 as well. Is it only a coincidence that? I guess not.

Anyway what astroturd has wrote/write, its irrelevant, wonder why you mention him pretty much and know how many thread about the stuff are there.

Are you shilling?


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Last Edited by DVCMCM on 12/07/2012 05:03 AM