Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

(red txt) and the sideway moon started to appear with minor frequency from 2007 as well. Is it only a coincidence that? I guess not.

Anyway what astroturd has wrote/write, its irrelevant, wonder why you mention him pretty much and know how many thread about the stuff are there.

Are you shilling?


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On what sort of proof?

Are you qualified to prove him wrong?

Just asking.....................................

And thanks for the "fat" reference. I'm fat and I resetn that.

Very much. Dumb-ass retard Illuminati sex-slave idiot fuck.

Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Also explains why the earth is off it's natural orbit.

a simple answer would be that the earth is experiencing a gradual geomagnetic shift. as in the continents are not in the right places anymore. as in climate change is the collective effects on organisms of being shifted out of their normal climate zones

I AM HAPPY to see that you guys aren't going to
put "off-track" by someone claiming to be an
"expert" on astronomy and "WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT
NOW IN SPACE"....
LISTEN, we are in uncharted territory right now.
There are influences on this planet which have
NO MODEL in current college/professional astronomy
book! Danny Wilten--just through his computer analyst
background and his love of ART discovered that there
was a BLACK HOLE in the center of ORION. We are talking
about A YEAR AGO when nobody was even looking at Orion
for this info! 2 Weeks ago NASA comes out with their
PUFFER-BELLY Astrophysicists claiming: "OH! WE HAVE
FOUND A BLACK HOLE IN THE CENTER OF THE ORION NEBULA!"
WOW! WHat a coincidence, huh?
I put this together for you because we DO NOT NEED
THE PUFFER-BELLIES telling us what we SEE with our
OWN EYES and can analyze with our own minds!!
I HAVE and idea why our OP is seeing the Orion
Constellation in THE WRONG PLACE.
I do NOT believe that he is lieing, nor is he
"mental" or a "hillbilly" or any other disparaging
remarks about his sincere effort to bring this
information forward for GLP!!
Here is a thread that is posted TODAY 12-03-12
concerning a GLP member doing excellent analysis
on an "EXTRA-SOLAR BODY" having an influence on
EARTHQUAKES.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE GRAVITATION/MAGNETICS
can bend light? If there is an EXTRA-SOLAR BODY
affecting our geomagnetics TO THE POINT TO CAUSE
8.0 pt+ earthquakes, the same body CAN AFFECT
THE LIGHT we see in the night sky from the stars--
and ESPECIALLY the larger constellations.
The LIGHT which normally would filter through and
show ORION over the back of the trailer--which OP
swears he has seen for 10 years--COULD BE BENDING
with the gravitation effects of the 'EXTRA-SOLAR
BODY' and bounce the light a number of degrees
where he NOW SEES ORION OVER THE MOUNTAINS.
THE PROOF OF THIS will be if OP watches the
position of ORION and sees if the constellation
CHANGES back to where he is normally used to seeing
it.
IF IT CHANGES, IT NOT ONLY PROVES THE LIGHT WAS
BENDING, BUT IT PROVES THAT THE EXTRA-SOLAR BODY
WHICH EFFECTING THE EARTH IS MOVING TOO! (see the link:
Thread: MEGA Earthquakes, Magnetic field anomalies, Earth Booms and Auroras NOT RANDOM! Proof there is an outside force affecting the Earth!
I didn't think this up, it is well-documented in
several places on the internet concerning the
effects of gravitational pull and magnetics on the
positioning of LIGHT!
PLEASE ENCOURAGE THE OP TO COME BACK IN A FEW
WEEKS AND LET US KNOW IF ORION'S POSITION HAS CHANGED!
(Remember! NO PUFFER-BELLIES ALLOWED!)
Cheers!
SK




Here the theads about Orion:

Thread: << ORION IS IN THE "WRONG" PLACE!! >> (2007)


Thread: the constellation ORION is in the wrong place! (2011)

The thread about the sideway moon are lots more (pretty obvious why).



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This guy hasn't presented anything TO prove wrong. All he's done is point at one part of the daytime sky, say "Orion used to be there", point at another part of the daytime sky, say "now Orion is there", and conclude that Orion has moved.

If he had *any* understanding of astronomy, he should be able to easily provide the necessary positional notation (declination, ascension, etc) of the new location. *That* is something that could be verified or disproven.

As it is, Orion's position in the sky is well documented, even in sources that "They" can't modify; you should be able to go to any library and check out a 10-15 year old sky atlas that will provide Orion's positional notation and verify for yourself that Orion is where it always has been.

It's not about what they are "seeing". It is about the interpretation of what they are seeing based on their memory, which they insist can't be wrong. That makes it a choice between their memory being faulty or the astronomical community all being in on a massive coverup of the whole thing. I'll ask you: Which is more likely?

...
Here is a thread that is posted TODAY 12-03-12
concerning a GLP member doing excellent analysis
on an "EXTRA-SOLAR BODY" having an influence on
EARTHQUAKES.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE GRAVITATION/MAGNETICS
can bend light? If there is an EXTRA-SOLAR BODY
affecting our geomagnetics TO THE POINT TO CAUSE
8.0 pt+ earthquakes, the same body CAN AFFECT
THE LIGHT we see in the night sky from the stars--
and ESPECIALLY the larger constellations.
The LIGHT which normally would filter through and
show ORION over the back of the trailer--which OP
swears he has seen for 10 years--COULD BE BENDING
with the gravitation effects of the 'EXTRA-SOLAR
BODY' and bounce the light a number of degrees
where he NOW SEES ORION OVER THE MOUNTAINS.
...

Oh, they do, but they all believe that "They" have modified the software as part of some cover up.

> Insert bullshit here <

Put your tomatoe plant where your mouth is, dude.

> Insert the rest of the bullshit here <

> Insert bullshit here <

THIS IS TRUE...(YES, I agree with your outrage at
the "fat Hillbilly" reference being REALLY VILE!)
And...yes, you can reference where ORION is located
and I am sure that the OP has probably already done
that.
THIS DOES NOT RING TRUE IF THE PROBLEM THE OP
IS DEALING WITH IS: The light in the sky above the
area of the Earth where OP lives is BEING DISTORTED
and bent by an "extra-solar" body. It is what some
of us would consider "A SIGN"--A WARNING--that is
being given NOT ABOUT ORION...BUT ABOUT A LARGE
APRROACHING EXTRA-SOLAR BODY BIG ENOUGH TO BEND
LIGHT!!
In my book, what OP is seeing is telling us:
"I'M HERE....GET READY!" and how wonderful to
bend the light of ORION when ORION is one of the
longest-running SACRED CONSTELLATIONS on the planet!
Cheers!
SK

Check out that one thead as well --> Thread: Sun Almost Rising In The SOUTH!




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Just to be clear trailer dude doesn't say Orion has moved relative to the position of other stars but in relation to where he is used to seeing it from his particular vantage point.

It's almost winter. What the hell do you expect.....

Yeah....he isn't talking about the rest of the stellar
pattern, here. He is talking about starlight to ground.
There isn't any way to disprove by the stellarium
program or from someone's telescope in a different
part of the country! lol!
The only way to figure it out is to have records of
the position of ORION AT THAT LOCATION over the trailer
partk and the NEW location--then compare that.
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR FOX MOULDER...DON'T YOU GUYS?
Anyone have David's phone number?
Cheers!
SK


Remember my comment about the light bending because
of an extra solar-body--If it is due to light
bending, then none of these telescope checks will work!

Yeah....he isn't talking about the rest of the stellar
pattern, here. He is talking about starlight to ground.
There isn't any way to disprove by the stellarium
program or from someone's telescope in a different
part of the country! lol!
The only way to figure it out is to have records of
the position of ORION AT THAT LOCATION over the trailer
partk and the NEW location--then compare that.
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR FOX MOULDER...DON'T YOU GUYS?
Anyone have David's phone number?
Cheers!
SK


Remember my comment about the light bending because
of an extra solar-body--If it is due to light
bending, then none of these telescope checks will work!

THIS IS TRUE...(YES, I agree with your outrage at
the "fat Hillbilly" reference being REALLY VILE!)
And...yes, you can reference where ORION is located
and I am sure that the OP has probably already done
that.
THIS DOES NOT RING TRUE IF THE PROBLEM THE OP
IS DEALING WITH IS: The light in the sky above the
area of the Earth where OP lives is BEING DISTORTED
and bent by an "extra-solar" body. It is what some
of us would consider "A SIGN"--A WARNING--that is
being given NOT ABOUT ORION...BUT ABOUT A LARGE
APRROACHING EXTRA-SOLAR BODY BIG ENOUGH TO BEND
LIGHT!!
In my book, what OP is seeing is telling us:
"I'M HERE....GET READY!" and how wonderful to
bend the light of ORION when ORION is one of the
longest-running SACRED CONSTELLATIONS on the planet!
Cheers!
SK

When did you actually check?

How did you check?

What margin of error are you working with?

What equipment are you using?

Where did you source the data needed to verify?



Did you check at all or are you just assuming?

When did you actually check?

How did you check?

What margin of error are you working with?

What equipment are you using?

Where did you source the data needed to verify?



Did you check at all or are you just assuming?

Yeah! I think this A hole is just assuming.

When did you actually check?

How did you check?

What margin of error are you working with?

What equipment are you using?

Where did you source the data needed to verify?

Did you check at all or are you just assuming?

Dec. 6, 2012, ca. 21:00 - Dec. 7, 2012, ca 01:30 UTC - Trapez Stars in the Orion Nebula, M43, Beteigeuze, Rigel and Moon


RA/DEC coordinates


Max +/- 1 arcmin


Meade LX5 10" SC on a stationary polar aligned mount.
Polar aligned since years without any correction.



Newcomb-Engelmann, Populäre Astronomie, Sechste Auflage, 1921



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