Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

Inuits of Alaska report bizarre changes in the position of the sun and the stars.

[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]

I keep seeing weird stuff too. I stopped asking about it. I used to rely on Star Hustler, but since he died, those kooks have messed up the show and it's just downright rubbish.

Fucking clouds. I'll try to wait them out as long as I can.

Well, actually Orion will not rise in a different place on the horizon in spring, it will just rise at a different time.

Jupiter.

Exactly, not everybody who lives in a trailer is broke...

I live in my trailer, it's very nice, large, fully equipped, totally paid for, has all the comforts of home, has it's own backup "grid" and access to the main grid and is on 100% paid for land. I pay no rent besides $200/year in property tax and if I don't like the neighbors (who are almost a mile away) or the situation here, I can drive off with my home and find a new cheap place. I work in manhattan and you would never guess if you looked at me. Only drawback is the crazy commute, which I can totally afford as I don't have a house note to slave over.

It's fun, cheap and flexible, as was said before, you should consider it as an option and get used to it, you may end up in far worse in the future.

Thanks for listening.

You mean a couple of guys who live in modern housing and ride out to hunt on snowmobiles think they remember the sun rising in a different place.

Jupiter was very near the moon.

Thanks, it must have been in conjunction, it was SO close!

So the universe doesn't need a chiropractic adjustment then?

All the space programs for every site every program are written by the Navy/Government. Nobody has to change apps. The programs come preloaded. They also get updates just like we do for their programs. Yes they can all be easily tweeked. Wake up.

How hard to you think this would be. Not hard at all. Alot of these sites are supplied by the Government also. Nobody checks too see who the site owners are thats all. The liers leading the sheep around. Everything is normal alright.


wow you must be a software developer!

actually, you're incorrect, "all the space programs for every site" are not written by "the navy/government".. you have no idea what you're talking about.




yes, yes they are YOU are very incorrect. not every app has deployed a sat in orbit (or heave telescope) to get the star maps...they are ALL fed by navy/govt launched sat

I'd suggest you read the article before you shoot your mouth off, you know what......never mind

All the space programs for every site every program are written by the Navy/Government. Nobody has to change apps. The programs come preloaded. They also get updates just like we do for their programs. Yes they can all be easily tweeked. Wake up.

How hard to you think this would be. Not hard at all. Alot of these sites are supplied by the Government also. Nobody checks too see who the site owners are thats all. The liers leading the sheep around. Everything is normal alright.


wow you must be a software developer!

actually, you're incorrect, "all the space programs for every site" are not written by "the navy/government".. you have no idea what you're talking about.




yes, yes they are YOU are very incorrect. not every app has deployed a sat in orbit (or heave telescope) to get the star maps...they are ALL fed by navy/govt launched sat


You're clueless. Sky programs utilize various sky survey data. Satellites need not even be involved. Those original images are available and have not changed. Get a grip.

Got the shot, now to download and analyze.

wow you must be a software developer!

actually, you're incorrect, "all the space programs for every site" are not written by "the navy/government".. you have no idea what you're talking about.




yes, yes they are YOU are very incorrect. not every app has deployed a sat in orbit (or heave telescope) to get the star maps...they are ALL fed by navy/govt launched sat


You're clueless. Sky programs utilize various sky survey data. Satellites need not even be involved. Those original images are available and have not changed. Get a grip.

Most consumer astronomy programs utilize VSOP87, which is French, not US Navy, NASA, etc and as the name implies, it was written in 1987. Still works.

The article is not new and neither is the documentary. My comment stands. Why don't YOU explain how those guys can be right about the sun rising in the wrong place and the world's astronomers don't know about it?

Well, I just Had to go look, didn't I? lol

The moonrise tonight is quite a bit further south than it rose at the full of the moon. Is there that much of a variation each month?
Orion is in about the same relation to the moon as from a few nights ago, but it is noticeably further to the South as well, instead of almost directly overhead where I usually notice it.

Somebody already said it... must be a glitch in the matrix!

Touche!

How about YOU read the article? Here is a quote from one of the film makers:


The scientific explanation is that the warming Arctic air is causing temperature inversions, which in turn cause the light of the sunset to refract so that the sun appears to be setting a few kilometres off-kilter. "There is so much garbage in the air, it's refraction that's causing our elders to think our world has tilted," Kunuk says.

But the filmmakers don't include that scientific explanation in the film, nor any other comments from the scientific community. Instead, the film deals strictly with the elders' observations and their belief that they have no control over climate change and they simply have to adapt.

So when is Astrodong coming back with his sage analysis?

Yes.



No, it isn't. It can't be unless the Moon has stopped orbiting Earth.



What is?



No, it's glitch in the science education system.

I never said the article was new. I like to consider possibilities, so shoot me. Amateur astronomers (guys/gals looking around from their backyard) can probably be credited with almost as many discoveries as 'world astronomers', who by the way are often locked into an intellectual paradigm that they refuse to budge from much like the scientists at the time who claimed to know for fact that the earth was flat. Are you aware the Milky Way is not our home galaxy? 'World Astronomers' don't like that getting out much either, doesn't look good for their paradigm. Just about every physical constant has been upended, we are in times of change, expansion, evolution. Here's my parting words. For those who believe, no explanation is necessary, for those who do not believe, no explanation is sufficient.

Thank God, can't sleep til I know the answer. I always look for Orion when I walk the dogs, tonight it was not where it usually is. Ihad to turn around and look south. Thought it was just me til I saw this thread.

Drum roll for the good Dr's verdict....

Thats a possible explantion and they wanted pure indegenous observations, from un brainwashed elders. I usually don't debate like this, not sure why I am tonight, hmmmmm

Sorry, but no matter how much people like to cite that example it's a myth. [link to en.wikipedia.org]



WTF are you talking about?



Right... they are 'hiding' that from the public... and WHY would that be, allededly?



Why would such a thing, if true, affect any paradigm?



"Believe"? Is this about religion? Oh... you have already run away.

LOL
Terral3 is behind this!

The longer it takes Astro the more I'm thinking its moved and he needs to figure out why. Otherwise a glance may have ended this mess rather quickly. Tho,I'm sure there is more to it than that.



Last Edited by Serendipitous on 12/06/2012 02:17 AM

The film makers simply got what they got. The idea that those "elders" have infallible memories and information is a little on the 'precious' side, don't you think?