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Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

 
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wouldnt that mean earth is in the wrong place?
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Yeah, pole shift.

I believe him. I move around too much to have noticed, but he has been looking at it for years in the same place.
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Well, I just Had to go look, didn't I? lol

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No, it's glitch in the science education system.
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My only question for you is, How much time do you actually spend outside under the stars on that high horse of yours?

Except for rare work demands, like the last couple of nights, I spend most of my time outside from sunrise into the late evening. Not even an amature astronomer, so yeah... the 'science' of it is not my strong point, but I likely have more genuine familiarity than most.

Matrix comment was tongue in cheek... guess all that science education of yours didn't include any of the finer points of humour, huh?
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I never said the article was new. I like to consider possibilities, so shoot me. Amateur astronomers (guys/gals looking around from their backyard) can probably be credited with almost as many discoveries as 'world astronomers', who by the way are often locked into an intellectual paradigm that they refuse to budge from much like the scientists at the time who claimed to know for fact that the earth was flat. Are you aware the Milky Way is not our home galaxy? 'World Astronomers' don't like that getting out much either, doesn't look good for their paradigm. Just about every physical constant has been upended, we are in times of change, expansion, evolution. Here's my parting words. For those who believe, no explanation is necessary, for those who do not believe, no explanation is sufficient.
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I didn't say "world astronomers", I said "the world's astronomers" as in ALL of them, not a particular high-ranking segment.
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Orion (the whole constellation of stars) is in the wrong place, but the rest of the sky is correctly in position?

Okay. Who the h*** is moving around Orion?!?!?!?!?
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Touche!

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IT'S ME lol...I've been messing with Orion for a while now. Tonight I even made it laugh with Tintin'S Castophiore. "Margueritte, est-ce toi si c'est toi? Réponds-moi viiiiiite!" And then I spotted my casual shooting star.

Just trying to get an response from Orion. I will continue indeed!

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Inuits of Alaska report bizarre changes in the position of the sun and the stars.

[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]
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You mean a couple of guys who live in modern housing and ride out to hunt on snowmobiles think they remember the sun rising in a different place.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I'd suggest you read the article before you shoot your mouth off, you know what......never mind
 Quoting: Isis One


How about YOU read the article? Here is a quote from one of the film makers:


The scientific explanation is that the warming Arctic air is causing temperature inversions, which in turn cause the light of the sunset to refract so that the sun appears to be setting a few kilometres off-kilter. "There is so much garbage in the air, it's refraction that's causing our elders to think our world has tilted," Kunuk says.

But the filmmakers don't include that scientific explanation in the film, nor any other comments from the scientific community. Instead, the film deals strictly with the elders' observations and their belief that they have no control over climate change and they simply have to adapt.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Thats a possible explantion and they wanted pure indigenous observations, from un brainwashed elders. I usually don't debate like this, not sure why I am tonight, hmmmmm

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Well, I just Had to go look, didn't I? lol

 Quoting: lasombra


No, it's glitch in the science education system.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


My only question for you is, How much time do you actually spend outside under the stars on that high horse of yours?
 Quoting: lasombra


I'm not the one making wild claims about things being out of place in the sky. I'm not sure how much higher a horse could be than in doing that.

Except for rare work demands, like the last couple of nights, I spend most of my time outside from sunrise into the late evening. Not even an amature astronomer, so yeah... the 'science' of it is not my strong point, but I likely have more genuine familiarity than most.
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And? Are you claiming that things in the sky are "out of place"?

Matrix comment was tongue in cheek... guess all that science education of yours didn't include any of the finer points of humour, huh?
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Actually, it seems to be YOUR lack of sense of humor which missed my return quip.
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it's ok..... i put it back....


.... sry vacuuming the universe.....

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OMG! HOW DID WE MISS THIS?!?!?

This universe out of alignment catastrophe has been going on for SIX years almost.

Thread: << ORION IS IN THE "WRONG" PLACE!! >>
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it's ok..... i put it back....


.... sry vacuuming the universe.....
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scRy vacumming the universe...*
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OMG! HOW DID WE MISS THIS?!?!?

This universe out of alignment catastrophe has been going on for SIX years almost.

Thread: << ORION IS IN THE "WRONG" PLACE!! >>
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It's much more noticeable now.
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Well, I just Had to go look, didn't I? lol

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No, it's glitch in the science education system.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


My only question for you is, How much time do you actually spend outside under the stars on that high horse of yours?
 Quoting: lasombra


I'm not the one making wild claims about things being out of place in the sky. I'm not sure how much higher a horse could be than in doing that.

Except for rare work demands, like the last couple of nights, I spend most of my time outside from sunrise into the late evening. Not even an amature astronomer, so yeah... the 'science' of it is not my strong point, but I likely have more genuine familiarity than most.
 Quoting: lasombra


And? Are you claiming that things in the sky are "out of place"?

Matrix comment was tongue in cheek... guess all that science education of yours didn't include any of the finer points of humour, huh?
 Quoting: lasombra


Actually, it seems to be YOUR lack of sense of humor which missed my return quip.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


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Fucking clouds. I'll try to wait them out as long as I can.
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Got the shot, now to download and analyze.
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Thank God, can't sleep til I know the answer. I always look for Orion when I walk the dogs, tonight it was not where it usually is. Ihad to turn around and look south. Thought it was just me til I saw this thread.

Drum roll for the good Dr's verdict....
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Why shouldn't Orion be "in the south"? It certainly should be any time starting at least 2 hours ago.
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OMG! HOW DID WE MISS THIS?!?!?

This universe out of alignment catastrophe has been going on for SIX years almost.

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It's much more noticeable now.
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All the space programs for every site every program are written by the Navy/Government. Nobody has to change apps. The programs come preloaded. They also get updates just like we do for their programs. Yes they can all be easily tweeked. Wake up.

How hard to you think this would be. Not hard at all. Alot of these sites are supplied by the Government also. Nobody checks too see who the site owners are thats all. The liers leading the sheep around. Everything is normal alright.
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wow you must be a software developer!

actually, you're incorrect, "all the space programs for every site" are not written by "the navy/government".. you have no idea what you're talking about.

iamwith
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yes, yes they are YOU are very incorrect. not every app has deployed a sat in orbit (or heave telescope) to get the star maps...they are ALL fed by navy/govt launched sat


You're clueless. Sky programs utilize various sky survey data. Satellites need not even be involved. Those original images are available and have not changed. Get a grip.

Most consumer astronomy programs utilize VSOP87, which is French, not US Navy, NASA, etc and as the name implies, it was written in 1987. Still works.


Did you read about climate change from the Inuit Elders?
Here's the link again.
[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]

Jesus/Yahshua Christ said in Luke 21:20-28
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Isaiah 24:1-5
1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.
4 The earth mourneth [and] fadeth away, the world languisheth [and] fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
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You know, if he comes back and says it is the wrong place my tomato plants are coming in permanently. That would be doom indeed.

I give that a 5% probability.
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It's not in the wrong place. it is where it always is.
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Thread: I asked God while gazing at Orion "What is Death?"

But seriously, last week I asked Orion "what is death?" Maybe it shook it a little bit, coming from the AC you know... ;)
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1doh1
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All the space programs for every site every program are written by the Navy/Government. Nobody has to change apps. The programs come preloaded. They also get updates just like we do for their programs. Yes they can all be easily tweeked. Wake up.

How hard to you think this would be. Not hard at all. Alot of these sites are supplied by the Government also. Nobody checks too see who the site owners are thats all. The liers leading the sheep around. Everything is normal alright.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


wow you must be a software developer!

actually, you're incorrect, "all the space programs for every site" are not written by "the navy/government".. you have no idea what you're talking about.

iamwith
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yes, yes they are YOU are very incorrect. not every app has deployed a sat in orbit (or heave telescope) to get the star maps...they are ALL fed by navy/govt launched sat
 Quoting: Jesus/Yahshua is salvation! 25746694


You're clueless. Sky programs utilize various sky survey data. Satellites need not even be involved. Those original images are available and have not changed. Get a grip.

Most consumer astronomy programs utilize VSOP87, which is French, not US Navy, NASA, etc and as the name implies, it was written in 1987. Still works.
by: Astro



Did you read about climate change from the Inuit Elders?
Here's the link again.
[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]

Jesus/Yahshua Christ said in Luke 21:20-28
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Isaiah 24:1-5
1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.
4 The earth mourneth [and] fadeth away, the world languisheth [and] fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
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Orion is in the right place...we're just in the wrong (or a different) place. In my opinion, there has definitely been a polar shift--my husband & I have noticed the sun setting in a different place from where we've watched it go down for 20 years. The distance from where it previously set to now appears to be just about the same as OP indicated in the video--a couple of hundred feet. It used to set due west from our home; now it's moved to the northwest. This, coupled with those of us who have noticed the "Cheshire Cat" moon phase (with the crescent lying on its side instead of standing on end), is proof enough for me. Further proof is the video of native Alaskans discussing that the sun now rises in a different place than it has for generations ( [link to www.youtube.com] ). Although I haven't verified any of the facts, the following article also has some interesting information: [link to modernsurvivalblog.com]
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wouldnt that mean earth is in the wrong place?
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I believe it means the earth's axis of tilt has seriously deviated.

This is a precursor of a pole shift. It is prophesied for the End Time in biblical prophesy (but not called that), and such events have been recorded in the spoken history of many peoples all over the world.
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orion is peeping up over my horizon in an hour, a quick look at stellarium should debunk this quick snap.
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Here come da judge, here come da judge.

I'm dating myself there, I know.

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Orion is in the right place...we're just in the wrong (or a different) place. In my opinion, there has definitely been a polar shift--my husband & I have noticed the sun setting in a different place from where we've watched it go down for 20 years. The distance from where it previously set to now appears to be just about the same as OP indicated in the video--a couple of hundred feet. It used to set due west from our home; now it's moved to the northwest. This, coupled with those of us who have noticed the "Cheshire Cat" moon phase (with the crescent lying on its side instead of standing on end), is proof enough for me. Further proof is the video of native Alaskans discussing that the sun now rises in a different place than it has for generations ( [link to www.youtube.com] ). Although I haven't verified any of the facts, the following article also has some interesting information: [link to modernsurvivalblog.com]
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No. your just trippin.
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Good grief !!!!

You people amaze me.

Orion is exactly where it is supposed to be.
The moon is exactly where it is supposed to be.
The sun is exactly where it is supposed to be.
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When did you actually check?

How did you check?

What margin of error are you working with?

What equipment are you using?

Where did you source the data needed to verify?



Did you check at all or are you just assuming?
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spotlight check,,,face check....que crickets
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OMG! HOW DID WE MISS THIS?!?!?

This universe out of alignment catastrophe has been going on for SIX years almost.

Thread: << ORION IS IN THE "WRONG" PLACE!! >>
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OMG! HOW DID WE MISS THIS?!?!?

This universe out of alignment catastrophe has been going on for SIX years almost.

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Here come da judge, here come da judge.

I'm dating myself there, I know.

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No judge here but a messenger of truth and love, is Jesus/Yahshua Christ your personal Lord and Savior? If you knock He will open the door to you, His love is unconditional and just.
God bless
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Oh, Jesus! What's wrong with you? One unknown nutjob says in a Youtube video that Orion rises from the wrong place and everyone on GLP agrees with him and it gets pinned too. Have you ever watched the sky by yourself? Orion rises from the place that it should be rising, and no, stars don't just jump some tens of thousands of light years in a single year, nor they would do that with keeping formation to what the inhabitants of Earth would see...Orion is in place and with the other stars in place with respect to the constellation.
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dancedance

Here come da judge, here come da judge.

I'm dating myself there, I know.

Tired and giddy
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 Quoting: Serendipitous


No judge here but a messenger of truth and love, is Jesus/Yahshua Christ your personal Lord and Savior? If you knock He will open the door to you, His love is unconditional and just.
God bless
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Oh, sorry that post was for Dr. Astro, we are awaiting his verdict. Jesus and I are friends from way back. I don't have to knock anymore, I just think about it and He shows up. Very informal.

Did u expect to be judged? I'm not a Christian, I don't do that. Everyone walks his own path, sometimes I walk with them a while and sometimes I just smile and wave as they go by.

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