Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

Figured so.
Do have a question though... Obviously, the moon appears to rise in a different location (further to the south tonight). How much 'swing' is there each month?
Be gentle Doc, astro-dummy here ;) I don't even know how to phrase the question correctly to google it.

Thanks in advance!

Not making a video. Somethings not adding up on the axial rotation measurement (and you all thought I was a "shill" - I'm honest, even when it's very likely nothing at all). Tonight I took a shortcut and just used my SLR with telephoto lens on a tripod rather than hauling out the whole telescope. I also only had a few minutes of a gap between clouds and then it was clouded up completely. But something about this picture I took isn't adding up...
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I'm consistently coming back to a distance of about 35 arcminutes for Polaris from the north celestial pole. That ain't right. It should be just shy of 41 arcminutes. Now, I've never calibrated this lens astrometrically before tonight, but I used the Polaris image itself as well as an earlier image I shot a few months back and they both resulted in about the same image scale of about 8.2 arcseconds per pixel at the resolution I'm using for analysis. Maybe I screwed my math up somewhere along the way, I'm running on very little sleep and I need to get some now if I'm every going to.

For the sake of sanity in the thread and so that people don't start killing themselves before I can solve this mystery, I've never tried to use my SLR camera by itself for this particular measurement before (I've always used my telescopes with the SLR catching the light at prime focus) and the 300mm telephoto lens I have is rather heavy. I'm thinking something settled or flexed on my camera tripod over the 8 minute exposure, causing the star trails to be artificially shifted by about 6 arcminutes (and for what it's worth, that's a small angle, one fifth the diameter of the moon's disc, it's not something Bubba in his trailer is going to notice just by casually looking and comparing by eye to a mountain range).

The telescopes I normally use are much beefier and sturdier. I'll repeat the measurement telescopically tomorrow. If telescopic measurement confirms it... I'll probably take a sniper bullet in the head because there's no way that kind of change could be kept secret without a mass assassination of every person like me.

thank you?

whom solved anything..?

screenshot of stellarium in my current position.

and just like it should be, its very close to east (slightly north)

you're gonna have to take my word for it, that i know which direction is east.

now, stop being a bunch of gullible thickies already!

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every local weather man: well folks the sky is fallin apart at the seams this month. as you can see starts are just all over the place with scatted ufos reported in 5 counties. back to Frank for sports.

Too late for that, I'm afraid.

Somethings wrong with his brain you heard him

I'm out in the garage (closed) with the car running...Lap top on the dash board...

Tell me everything is gonna be alright or it's curtains for Ray ray...

Orion,I have always liked that constellation. I always knew it to be a winter constellation. All summer long I could see it looking north from my back yard. This is new to me. Now that it is winter I see it from looking south,to me that is normal.

:aaah:

Looks the same as it always has. Still coming over the same hill at my house. Last 20 years Orion has been like clock work.

The moon is normal too! Its a wet moon...

no doom for you

The only thing odd i ever saw going on with orion was this...

The top left shoulder is Betelgeuse... They say its going to go super nova... Anytime... From now to a million or so years...

Well one night Betelgeuse was gone... Not there... I was like "wtf?!"

Did it go nova? Is it on vacation? Someone forgot to change its light bulb?

It was fucking gone!!! The i realized the problem... I was drunk as hell and wasnt even looking at Orion! I was so eager to see weird shit, so willing to discover something afoul... In my drunkness i didnt think... I didnt stop and act logical... I assumed that a star disappeared...

In my drunken ignorance i didnt stop and realize i didnt have a clue as to what i was looking at...

I was just glad i was too drunk to walk... Or else i might have posted something silly online about it...

Interesting. Thanks for your info, looking forward to what you capture tonight (whether it be okay or not)

Your self-importance knows no bounds. Fact is you're not the final word on anything.

Thank you!

Things that make you say - hummm

Thank space dog

Hey!, That's Beatty,Nevada. Bunch of kookie old folks live out there.However i don't think he's lying maybe we are in a weird un-uniform type of wobble spin and the Earth keeps trying to correct herself so somtimes she aligns and other times she slips and this causes all this weird earthquakes,weather,and star misalignments.Maybe.

Just to be clear trailer dude doesn't say Orion has moved relative to the position of other stars but in relation to where he is used to seeing it from his particular vantage point.

However the guy seems telling the true, however he forgot to say that he always saw Orion rising on that place in that winter season this because it can moves a bit due to earth's axis inclination (not because everyday shilltards field rotation BS).

You know, even the sun change up to 15 degrees from East to South in winter time (rise) and up to 15 degrees from West to North in Summer time (set).

Anyway the sideway moon is a fact and its not normal at all.





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It's going to be fine.

I moved it for a joke. I will go put it back.

This.

It's the earth that went off it's normal orbit. Last year I noticed the sun was setting WAY OFF from where it was for the previous 13 years since I've lived in this house.

As the trolls say...not sure if serious.



Not to the man...but to the GLP attention. This must be a controlled burn. Expose it...shill it/deal with it...move on. Sorta like a TEE S making a white sun page on the front page.

Who cares about Orion being out of place when the damn moon hasnt been right in over a year?




Ya know for the bible to be such supposed bs it sure is funny its the only thing out there telling us there would be signs in the sun (white super bright sun)...moon (gone for over a week at a time) and stars (strange stars and now orion) in the end times/last days.

The shills hold tight to this because they got everything riding on this. Oh how they have played this disguised game for so long. Well time is almost up and they arent gonna have to play your internet buddies much longer. Soon the true them will come out and when that happens its gonna be too late for the un believers in the lord and the skeptics.

Ya know there could be other reasons for the displacement of celestial bodies , and anomalies (such as vortex clouds) in our skies.

Holograms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Years ago, during a penumbral eclipse of the moon, (whereas the moon turned red)most of the United States saw the full eclipse; whereas in Liberty, Ky, it never happened, the moon never eclipsed , though you could see the shadow of the eclipse behind it.

It's been talked about, for many years, by rogue "insiders", that our military (deep black operations), had such technology, using chemtrails to create a reflective matter within our atmosphere, to literally create a projection screen of our atmosphere, to produce holograms.

Could the weird anomalies, that others and myself in the past have witnessed, be the workings of holograms? The night of the eclipse, I spoke to people all over the U.S.A., confirming the eclipse was happening, I could see the eclipse shadow, but the moon never eclipsed in Liberty, Ky. The eclipse I'm referring to happened in the Fall of 2004 or 2005.

So the real question here, is..........Are they using holograms in our atmosphere, of our night skies? If so why? And also if so, lol, WHAT ARE THEY HIDING FROM US??????????????

uh oh, don't usually pay much attention to these types of posts...but this guy is good. I shall be awaiting his next response...Thanks doc

keep this shit pinned til he(Astro) discounts it, please..

one of those, eh

Sorry but to me is a big ignorant in astronomy (or a shill even a troll posting the same crap).