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| 535 User ID: 1326993 12/05/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a plan for a conspiracy. Quoting: 535 1326993 It cannot be a true conspiracy until the plan comes to fruition. If it does not, and the plan is exposed, the burden of proof is on those who exposed the plan. If it does, again the burden of proof fall on those who seek to expose the conspiracy. It is only a conspiracy when a plan is successful and burden of proof is high for those seeking to expose it. This is the only reason why conspiracy planning for unpalatable action is far more agreeable and politically expedient than overt non-backed action. Plausible deniability, nothing more. Agreed, but it isnt an action until it has been put in motion, therfore it cannot be a conspiracy until it happens. The assumption is that something has not been put into motion. The act of beginning to put a plan together to cover and conspire is, in and of itself, conspiratorial. It is a small difference, but an important one. There are conspiratorial ideas, followed by conspiracy planning, and finally... the execution of the conspiracy itself. The execution step begins the many small acts that, if taken individually, are not conspiracy in any way. However, if matching to the plan, as an aggregate they are all conspiratorial actions with a predetermined outcome. It is not until all of the small acts of low political danger, timing window independent, and physical danger are complete that the larger acts which require execution in a limited window of time to complete has begun. This is typically when the most care must be taken. The moment there is a high percentage chance for massive negative political, military, or social fallout contrary to the conspiracy is when the plans will take one of two general paths. 1. The plan continues forward as the chances for completion are still high. 2. The plan is discarded immediately, all those in a position to expose the powerful are permanently removed. Those facing catastrophic exposure decide that the chances for completion has become lower than the probability of disastrous personal consequence. This is why once a conspiracy takes place, everyone involved stick to the story. This is why they back the plan, regardless of exposure after the fact. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain. This is why it is successful. This is why things are unfolding in the only manner that they can. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29161766 12/05/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 Read Part 2 - It's all a False Flag [link to www.canadafreepress.com] It's going down exactly as the United States planned before Benghazi sidelined them...temporarily. Part 1 is quite interesting too. for truth and russia and is in the mix along with iranI just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. The funny thing is that they have written out this script a long time ago yet people do not believe. Its all about the NWO. The really funny thing is if this invisible empire of these secret NWO people exist and they are so harmful to us as population why dont we resolve it. You should go next door to your neighbor and gather neighbors in youe neighborhood and you do this nation wide until you have the whole country going to washington and demand a mass resignation of congress and the Oval office. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22916852 12/05/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 Read Part 2 - It's all a False Flag [link to www.canadafreepress.com] It's going down exactly as the United States planned before Benghazi sidelined them...temporarily. Part 1 is quite interesting too. for truth and russia and is in the mix along with iranI just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. Agreed the press will not tell us, but something started a worldwide buzz that chemical weapons are coming into play. It is our duty as responsible people to observe the coming actions. If you read both articles you will understand why. It will make more sense to you then. It's really better to read part one first and part two will make more sense. These articles were written last week and its playing out just as this "Intelligence Insider" said it would. Especially this part. You will understand why the cover up for Benghazi too. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28763511 12/05/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3128289 You said something needs to be done about assad....WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT SOMETHING IS??????? THINK... Fuck you really are hopeless. If you quote the incident with the quote function I can clarify it, if not its a speculation of an impression you have of something I said and we will both look silly in trying to defend our position. page 6? 7? Dude i dont remember verbatim. You voiced concern over the chem weapons and mentioned something needed to be done and im TELLING you that what will be done was GOING to be done eventually. Hence the clark reference. You called him (or most likely her) on the logical conclusion of his support of hearsay (planted stories to the media). War and death. He doesnt give a shit that he is the enabler, the problem. He feels comfortable with their rhetoric: any disagreement is a "conspiracy theory", implying he is tapped into the real truth. Something must be done about it, implying and knowing full well he is enabling his govt to action. And he is playing their game. Assad has chem weapons. Of course, they are a deterrent against israel's nukes. Remember? But for the first time idiots realize non nuke states have chem weapons. It's like city people seeing Venus as Niburu. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 12/05/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read Part 2 - It's all a False Flag Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 [link to www.canadafreepress.com] It's going down exactly as the United States planned before Benghazi sidelined them...temporarily. Part 1 is quite interesting too. Miko Peled has a few vids out on youtube where he states that the beef with Iran is a distraction to take the focus off what is going on in Gaza and the West Bank, those are the prizes the Jews are after. Here is a sample. [link to www.youtube.com] god help me if they ever give me a drone leftclick |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29161766 12/05/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a plan for a conspiracy. Quoting: 535 1326993 It cannot be a true conspiracy until the plan comes to fruition. If it does not, and the plan is exposed, the burden of proof is on those who exposed the plan. If it does, again the burden of proof fall on those who seek to expose the conspiracy. It is only a conspiracy when a plan is successful and burden of proof is high for those seeking to expose it. This is the only reason why conspiracy planning for unpalatable action is far more agreeable and politically expedient than overt non-backed action. Plausible deniability, nothing more. Agreed, but it isnt an action until it has been put in motion, therfore it cannot be a conspiracy until it happens. The assumption is that something has not been put into motion. The act of beginning to put a plan together to cover and conspire is, in and of itself, conspiratorial. It is a small difference, but an important one. There are conspiratorial ideas, followed by conspiracy planning, and finally... the execution of the conspiracy itself. The execution step begins the many small acts that, if taken individually, are not conspiracy in any way. However, if matching to the plan, as an aggregate they are all conspiratorial actions with a predetermined outcome. It is not until all of the small acts of low political danger, timing window independent, and physical danger are complete that the larger acts which require execution in a limited window of time to complete has begun. This is typically when the most care must be taken. The moment there is a high percentage chance for massive negative political, military, or social fallout contrary to the conspiracy is when the plans will take one of two general paths. 1. The plan continues forward as the chances for completion are still high. 2. The plan is discarded immediately, all those in a position to expose the powerful are permanently removed. Those facing catastrophic exposure decide that the chances for completion has become lower than the probability of disastrous personal consequence. This is why once a conspiracy takes place, everyone involved stick to the story. This is why they back the plan, regardless of exposure after the fact. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain. This is why it is successful. This is why things are unfolding in the only manner that they can. I admire how you layed out the sequence of motion, but that is different than action that has been put into motion. Execution of action (i.e motion) begins when thought moves atoms in time and space. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 12/05/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29161766 If you quote the incident with the quote function I can clarify it, if not its a speculation of an impression you have of something I said and we will both look silly in trying to defend our position. page 6? 7? Dude i dont remember verbatim. You voiced concern over the chem weapons and mentioned something needed to be done and im TELLING you that what will be done was GOING to be done eventually. Hence the clark reference. You called him (or most likely her) on the logical conclusion of his support of hearsay (planted stories to the media). War and death. He doesnt give a shit that he is the enabler, the problem. He feels comfortable with their rhetoric: any disagreement is a "conspiracy theory", implying he is tapped into the real truth. Something must be done about it, implying and knowing full well he is enabling his govt to action. And he is playing their game. Assad has chem weapons. Of course, they are a deterrent against israel's nukes. Remember? But for the first time idiots realize non nuke states have chem weapons. It's like city people seeing Venus as Niburu. do u pay taxes? do u really think there is any secrets about assad fuk man the whole world is watching i bet my life u owe 567,000 dollars for this war |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29161766 12/05/2012 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. Agreed the press will not tell us, but something started a worldwide buzz that chemical weapons are coming into play. It is our duty as responsible people to observe the coming actions. If you read both articles you will understand why. It will make more sense to you then. It's really better to read part one first and part two will make more sense. These articles were written last week and its playing out just as this "Intelligence Insider" said it would. Especially this part. You will understand why the cover up for Benghazi too. Thank you |
| Ohwell User ID: 18725998 12/05/2012 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. The funny thing is that they have written out this script a long time ago yet people do not believe. Its all about the NWO. The really funny thing is if this invisible empire of these secret NWO people exist and they are so harmful to us as population why dont we resolve it. You should go next door to your neighbor and gather neighbors in youe neighborhood and you do this nation wide until you have the whole country going to washington and demand a mass resignation of congress and the Oval office. Geeee! Would that include people like you? I cant even begin to discuss with you the depths of the invisible prison cells we live in and the dream-like state of existence of the masses of this planet. Critical thought is gone down the drain as shown many times even in this thread. David Rockefeller 1994 UN Speech: "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nation will accept the New World Order." This is one of your elites addressing the UN talking about a MAJOR CRISIS to happen for the Nations to accept the NWO, yet people soak it in like they are in a trance or something. Unless crisis now means goodness. Arent we seeing crisis being contrived? This speech happened, its in your face. It is not my responsibility to put things in people's head if they cant engage their brain functions. Last Edited by Ohwell on 12/05/2012 11:16 PM |
| 535 User ID: 1326993 12/05/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. The funny thing is that they have written out this script a long time ago yet people do not believe. Its all about the NWO. The really funny thing is if this invisible empire of these secret NWO people exist and they are so harmful to us as population why dont we resolve it. You should go next door to your neighbor and gather neighbors in youe neighborhood and you do this nation wide until you have the whole country going to washington and demand a mass resignation of congress and the Oval office. Interesting. May I ask 5 questions that perhaps you would find time to answer? I would be most grateful. 1. What makes you believe that there is not a hidden, or invisible, empire? 2. What empirical evidence, if any, have you noted that has swayed you to the conclusion that "secret NWO people" do not exist? 3. Is there any empirical evidence, if given by your preferred media medium, that could be added which would result in reinforcement of your point of view? 4. What actions would you, if any, be willing to take in convincing others of your point of view? 5. What actions would you recommend to convince others that certain public or quasi-public figures are not to be taken as belonging to any "secret" groups? Thank you in advance. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22916852 12/05/2012 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 I just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. Agreed the press will not tell us, but something started a worldwide buzz that chemical weapons are coming into play. It is our duty as responsible people to observe the coming actions. If you read both articles you will understand why. It will make more sense to you then. It's really better to read part one first and part two will make more sense. These articles were written last week and its playing out just as this "Intelligence Insider" said it would. Especially this part. You will understand why the cover up for Benghazi too. Thank you No. Thank YOU for reading the article. Please pass it on to others. People need to know. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3128289 12/05/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a plan for a conspiracy. Quoting: 535 1326993 It cannot be a true conspiracy until the plan comes to fruition. If it does not, and the plan is exposed, the burden of proof is on those who exposed the plan. If it does, again the burden of proof fall on those who seek to expose the conspiracy. It is only a conspiracy when a plan is successful and burden of proof is high for those seeking to expose it. This is the only reason why conspiracy planning for unpalatable action is far more agreeable and politically expedient than overt non-backed action. Plausible deniability, nothing more. Agreed, but it isnt an action until it has been put in motion, therfore it cannot be a conspiracy until it happens. So with your logic hitler never conspired against jews? That 'after the fact' mentality is whats allowed history to repeat...again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29161766 12/05/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29161766 If you quote the incident with the quote function I can clarify it, if not its a speculation of an impression you have of something I said and we will both look silly in trying to defend our position. page 6? 7? Dude i dont remember verbatim. You voiced concern over the chem weapons and mentioned something needed to be done and im TELLING you that what will be done was GOING to be done eventually. Hence the clark reference. You called him (or most likely her) on the logical conclusion of his support of hearsay (planted stories to the media). War and death. He doesnt give a shit that he is the enabler, the problem. He feels comfortable with their rhetoric: any disagreement is a "conspiracy theory", implying he is tapped into the real truth. Something must be done about it, implying and knowing full well he is enabling his govt to action. And he is playing their game. Assad has chem weapons. Of course, they are a deterrent against israel's nukes. Remember? But for the first time idiots realize non nuke states have chem weapons. It's like city people seeing Venus as Niburu. Is this direct at me? |
| 535 User ID: 1326993 12/05/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a plan for a conspiracy. Quoting: 535 1326993 It cannot be a true conspiracy until the plan comes to fruition. If it does not, and the plan is exposed, the burden of proof is on those who exposed the plan. If it does, again the burden of proof fall on those who seek to expose the conspiracy. It is only a conspiracy when a plan is successful and burden of proof is high for those seeking to expose it. This is the only reason why conspiracy planning for unpalatable action is far more agreeable and politically expedient than overt non-backed action. Plausible deniability, nothing more. Agreed, but it isnt an action until it has been put in motion, therfore it cannot be a conspiracy until it happens. The assumption is that something has not been put into motion. The act of beginning to put a plan together to cover and conspire is, in and of itself, conspiratorial. It is a small difference, but an important one. There are conspiratorial ideas, followed by conspiracy planning, and finally... the execution of the conspiracy itself. The execution step begins the many small acts that, if taken individually, are not conspiracy in any way. However, if matching to the plan, as an aggregate they are all conspiratorial actions with a predetermined outcome. It is not until all of the small acts of low political danger, timing window independent, and physical danger are complete that the larger acts which require execution in a limited window of time to complete has begun. This is typically when the most care must be taken. The moment there is a high percentage chance for massive negative political, military, or social fallout contrary to the conspiracy is when the plans will take one of two general paths. 1. The plan continues forward as the chances for completion are still high. 2. The plan is discarded immediately, all those in a position to expose the powerful are permanently removed. Those facing catastrophic exposure decide that the chances for completion has become lower than the probability of disastrous personal consequence. This is why once a conspiracy takes place, everyone involved stick to the story. This is why they back the plan, regardless of exposure after the fact. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain. This is why it is successful. This is why things are unfolding in the only manner that they can. I admire how you layed out the sequence of motion, but that is different than action that has been put into motion. Execution of action (i.e motion) begins when thought moves atoms in time and space. I am quite sure that the first initial step of pen to paper in the initial planning stages fulfills your requirements. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29161766 12/05/2012 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a plan for a conspiracy. Quoting: 535 1326993 It cannot be a true conspiracy until the plan comes to fruition. If it does not, and the plan is exposed, the burden of proof is on those who exposed the plan. If it does, again the burden of proof fall on those who seek to expose the conspiracy. It is only a conspiracy when a plan is successful and burden of proof is high for those seeking to expose it. This is the only reason why conspiracy planning for unpalatable action is far more agreeable and politically expedient than overt non-backed action. Plausible deniability, nothing more. Agreed, but it isnt an action until it has been put in motion, therfore it cannot be a conspiracy until it happens. So with your logic hitler never conspired against jews? That 'after the fact' mentality is whats allowed history to repeat...again. History writes he did conspire against the Jews*, but the conspiracy wasnt known until after the fact. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 12/05/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 I just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. The funny thing is that they have written out this script a long time ago yet people do not believe. Its all about the NWO. The really funny thing is if this invisible empire of these secret NWO people exist and they are so harmful to us as population why dont we resolve it. You should go next door to your neighbor and gather neighbors in youe neighborhood and you do this nation wide until you have the whole country going to washington and demand a mass resignation of congress and the Oval office. Geeee! Would that include people like you? I cant even begin to discuss with you the depths of the invisible prison cells we live in and the dream-like state of existence of the masses of this planet. Critical thought is gone down the drain as shown many times even in this thread. David Rockefeller 1994 UN Speech: "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nation will accept the New World Order." This is one of your elites addressing the UN talking about a MAJOR CRISIS to happen for the Nations to accept the NWO. Arent we seeing crisis being contrived? This speech happened, its in your face. It is not my responsibility to put things in people's head if they cant engage their brain. iswear on my soul they tell u before they do it we will invade syria and iran they told us back in 2001 the bhengazia thing sent them back thnks to iran and russian troops then we made a nato dude kill himself this is it folks if we invade syria russia iran china and god knows who else will help |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29161766 12/05/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29161766 Agreed, but it isnt an action until it has been put in motion, therfore it cannot be a conspiracy until it happens. The assumption is that something has not been put into motion. The act of beginning to put a plan together to cover and conspire is, in and of itself, conspiratorial. It is a small difference, but an important one. There are conspiratorial ideas, followed by conspiracy planning, and finally... the execution of the conspiracy itself. The execution step begins the many small acts that, if taken individually, are not conspiracy in any way. However, if matching to the plan, as an aggregate they are all conspiratorial actions with a predetermined outcome. It is not until all of the small acts of low political danger, timing window independent, and physical danger are complete that the larger acts which require execution in a limited window of time to complete has begun. This is typically when the most care must be taken. The moment there is a high percentage chance for massive negative political, military, or social fallout contrary to the conspiracy is when the plans will take one of two general paths. 1. The plan continues forward as the chances for completion are still high. 2. The plan is discarded immediately, all those in a position to expose the powerful are permanently removed. Those facing catastrophic exposure decide that the chances for completion has become lower than the probability of disastrous personal consequence. This is why once a conspiracy takes place, everyone involved stick to the story. This is why they back the plan, regardless of exposure after the fact. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain. This is why it is successful. This is why things are unfolding in the only manner that they can. I admire how you layed out the sequence of motion, but that is different than action that has been put into motion. Execution of action (i.e motion) begins when thought moves atoms in time and space. I am quite sure that the first initial step of pen to paper in the initial planning stages fulfills your requirements. Pen and paper would be an intial step of motion (i.e. moving of atoms), but cannot be proven to be a conspiracy until the paper that was written on was discoverd. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28763511 12/05/2012 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read Part 2 - It's all a False Flag [link to www.canadafreepress.com] It's going down exactly as the United States planned before Benghazi sidelined them...temporarily. Part 1 is quite interesting too. for truth and russia and is in the mix along with iranI just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. In a nutshell,,, Actually this story has been circulating for a while. But it really hit the MSM last couple of weeks. As if we didnt know. But it was quickly buried. I guess it is tooo accurate for some. Washington Post We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety. According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.” note the author, below... Retired Adm. James A. Lyons was commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior U.S. military representative to the United Nations. [link to www.washingtontimes.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 12/05/2012 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 Read Part 2 - It's all a False Flag [link to www.canadafreepress.com] It's going down exactly as the United States planned before Benghazi sidelined them...temporarily. Part 1 is quite interesting too. for truth and russia and is in the mix along with iranI just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. In a nutshell,,, Actually this story has been circulating for a while. But it really hit the MSM last couple of weeks. As if we didnt know. But it was quickly buried. I guess it is tooo accurate for some. Washington Post We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety. According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.” note the author, below... Retired Adm. James A. Lyons was commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior U.S. military representative to the United Nations. [link to www.washingtontimes.com] still asleep i swear peeps need to wake the f up or u are going to not wake on day |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3128289 12/05/2012 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a plan for a conspiracy. Quoting: 535 1326993 It cannot be a true conspiracy until the plan comes to fruition. If it does not, and the plan is exposed, the burden of proof is on those who exposed the plan. If it does, again the burden of proof fall on those who seek to expose the conspiracy. It is only a conspiracy when a plan is successful and burden of proof is high for those seeking to expose it. This is the only reason why conspiracy planning for unpalatable action is far more agreeable and politically expedient than overt non-backed action. Plausible deniability, nothing more. Agreed, but it isnt an action until it has been put in motion, therfore it cannot be a conspiracy until it happens. So with your logic hitler never conspired against jews? That 'after the fact' mentality is whats allowed history to repeat...again. History writes he did conspire against the Jews*, but the conspiracy wasnt known until after the fact. Nice job genius now we're getting somewhere. Now how many of those jews had the internet? My point=made. Are you going to let a new Hitler arise? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22916852 12/05/2012 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 Read Part 2 - It's all a False Flag [link to www.canadafreepress.com] It's going down exactly as the United States planned before Benghazi sidelined them...temporarily. Part 1 is quite interesting too. for truth and russia and is in the mix along with iranI just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. In a nutshell,,, Actually this story has been circulating for a while. But it really hit the MSM last couple of weeks. As if we didnt know. But it was quickly buried. I guess it is tooo accurate for some. Washington Post We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety. According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.” note the author, below... Retired Adm. James A. Lyons was commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior U.S. military representative to the United Nations. [link to www.washingtontimes.com] Problem is...most people DON'T know. They believe what they are hearing on TV and the Press Releases about it (What the WH wants the people to think). Thank you for reading the article. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 12/05/2012 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22916852 Read Part 2 - It's all a False Flag [link to www.canadafreepress.com] It's going down exactly as the United States planned before Benghazi sidelined them...temporarily. Part 1 is quite interesting too. for truth and russia and is in the mix along with iranI just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. In a nutshell,,, Actually this story has been circulating for a while. But it really hit the MSM last couple of weeks. As if we didnt know. But it was quickly buried. I guess it is tooo accurate for some. Washington Post We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety. According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.” note the author, below... Retired Adm. James A. Lyons was commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior U.S. military representative to the United Nations. [link to www.washingtontimes.com] is serb rusian? thread got buried for asking sorry if this one goes |
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| 535 User ID: 1326993 12/05/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 535 1326993 The assumption is that something has not been put into motion. The act of beginning to put a plan together to cover and conspire is, in and of itself, conspiratorial. It is a small difference, but an important one. There are conspiratorial ideas, followed by conspiracy planning, and finally... the execution of the conspiracy itself. The execution step begins the many small acts that, if taken individually, are not conspiracy in any way. However, if matching to the plan, as an aggregate they are all conspiratorial actions with a predetermined outcome. It is not until all of the small acts of low political danger, timing window independent, and physical danger are complete that the larger acts which require execution in a limited window of time to complete has begun. This is typically when the most care must be taken. The moment there is a high percentage chance for massive negative political, military, or social fallout contrary to the conspiracy is when the plans will take one of two general paths. 1. The plan continues forward as the chances for completion are still high. 2. The plan is discarded immediately, all those in a position to expose the powerful are permanently removed. Those facing catastrophic exposure decide that the chances for completion has become lower than the probability of disastrous personal consequence. This is why once a conspiracy takes place, everyone involved stick to the story. This is why they back the plan, regardless of exposure after the fact. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain. This is why it is successful. This is why things are unfolding in the only manner that they can. I admire how you layed out the sequence of motion, but that is different than action that has been put into motion. Execution of action (i.e motion) begins when thought moves atoms in time and space. I am quite sure that the first initial step of pen to paper in the initial planning stages fulfills your requirements. Pen and paper would be an intial step of motion (i.e. moving of atoms), but cannot be proven to be a conspiracy until the paper that was written on was discoverd. Your logic is shifting and failing. It does not make sense at this point. Proven to whom? You? Russia but not China? Vietnam but not Thailand? Hitler with the Jewish population of Europe was a perfect example. Simply because many people in the Americas or the West did not know about the conspiracy does not mean that others were also in the dark. This was never, and will never be, about proving a conspiracy because that would require the most odeous of blanket statements: "everyone knows that xxxxxx". Everyone cannot and will not agree it is or was a conspiracy. There are currently many Holocaust deniers. To them, no conspiracy has ever been proven. In fact, they believe the Holocaust itself is the conspiracy rather than believing the one in which 6 million Jews died. The current situation has been in the works for quite some time. As each nation in the Middle East falls, the final recycling of the entire region becomes closer. I will say no more on the subject. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28620479 12/05/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My God this is such nonsense, what proof do they have that Assad is loading chemcial weapons to use on his own population and why would he even do that?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4177522 This is just more bullshit, and sarin, yeah right... I think intelligence from three of the best agencies in the world (U.S., Israel, and Turkey) all watching these sites 24/7 is fairly good proof. You are correct. These are the same (very best in the world) that showed us Saddam Hussein had all those stockpiles of chemical weapons ready to be used and even those nifty mobile missle launchers (semi truck based) that Colin Powell showed everyone at the U.N.... Yea, same groups - the best in the world to pass their agenda! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12646667 12/05/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @RT_com: US Senate vote pushes for Pentagon military action in Syria [link to t.co] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28763511 12/05/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wish more people would read both articles. People need to know. I'm so frustrated listening to the Press tell us a story...which isn't at all what is really happening. The United States is behind the whole incident. Assad is NOT going to gas his people...the US is and will blame it on Assad..they are attempting to remove Assad and install the Muslim Brotherhoold. It's all in the articles. In a nutshell,,, Actually this story has been circulating for a while. But it really hit the MSM last couple of weeks. As if we didnt know. But it was quickly buried. I guess it is tooo accurate for some. Washington Post We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety. According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.” note the author, below... Retired Adm. James A. Lyons was commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior U.S. military representative to the United Nations. [link to www.washingtontimes.com] Problem is...most people DON'T know. They believe what they are hearing on TV and the Press Releases about it (What the WH wants the people to think). Thank you for reading the article. Well now it is in the mainstream. Why argue about it when you can link a former C&C of the USPac Fleet? Yup, Al Qeada alphabet jihadies have been used by the West and Saudi since the beginning. So where does this place the 9/11 official conspiracy theory? The ball is in their court... But more importantly, what is the aim of all this? Is the strategy Brezinsky's grand chess board into Central Asia? To control countries by controlling their oil sources?, And to accomplish this are the tactics do destabilize, then destroy a series of countries into harmless (to the grand plan) dysfunctional and ultra religious emirates? Immoral and evil people afoot.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 12/05/2012 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29161766 I admire how you layed out the sequence of motion, but that is different than action that has been put into motion. Execution of action (i.e motion) begins when thought moves atoms in time and space. I am quite sure that the first initial step of pen to paper in the initial planning stages fulfills your requirements. Pen and paper would be an intial step of motion (i.e. moving of atoms), but cannot be proven to be a conspiracy until the paper that was written on was discoverd. Your logic is shifting and failing. It does not make sense at this point. Proven to whom? You? Russia but not China? Vietnam but not Thailand? Hitler with the Jewish population of Europe was a perfect example. Simply because many people in the Americas or the West did not know about the conspiracy does not mean that others were also in the dark. This was never, and will never be, about proving a conspiracy because that would require the most odeous of blanket statements: "everyone knows that xxxxxx". Everyone cannot and will not agree it is or was a conspiracy. There are currently many Holocaust deniers. To them, no conspiracy has ever been proven. In fact, they believe the Holocaust itself is the conspiracy rather than believing the one in which 6 million Jews died. The current situation has been in the works for quite some time. As each nation in the Middle East falls, the final recycling of the entire region becomes closer. I will say no more on the subject. what retard? really asshat u take my money and labor kids to a foriegn land to kill them and steal the recources ands its ok? so if u was pink god would let me take alle soul? i really want to know how u think |