Yes, I smoke ...

Thank you. I try to keep active and ride the bike every day to get my cardio going.

ty

yep, it's very easy, i can roll 3-4/per minute with this thingie

How much of each? You buy organic coconut oil? I bought a somewhat expensive jar of it at the health food store last week. Still haven't cracked the seal...not sure I bought the right thing. Didn't realize it would be whitish?

Anyway...I'm a smoker too, btw.

I actually grew my own tobacco - hell, I was living in NC - but curing it was a bitch - I didn't have the hot house to cure it in, so finally I used the stove - added vanilla extract to some and cloves to others and then the rest I just cured.

It's not a bad smoke - surprisingly light.

Do you buy online or locally?

How much are the tubes?

Seems it's equal parts baking soda and coconut oil (although I'd add more coconut) and then some stevia liquid - others use peppermint oil, or tea tree oil to make it a bit sparky and at first - you won't like it, but after a while, the other stuff, the commercial stuff - you'll hate!!

When I am out partying, having the best time of my life, I love a ciggie. One of the few things I can get still get away with, ha!

Loving you

Smoker here. I get fucked with at work because I'm a smoker, and I'm the boss. I know what discrimanition is. Funny shit. I'm white. Lol.

Yeah, I'm sure all the nuclear weapons testing in Nevada, and all the garbage in everything we eat and drink had anything to do with it....

Shitcan the slider and spend 30-40 bucks on a good crank injector.

If I'm in a hurry, I can bust out a pack in 3-4 minutes.

Quit 15 years now, had smoked two packs a day Marlboro Red, cold turkey. Never cheated either.

Nasty habit. Amazing how much better you feel when you don't smoke.

Not as nasty as when I chewed a tin of Kodiak a day in college. That was a REALLY nasty habit.

My experience was the opposite. The smokers in my family all developed either lung cancer, severe COPD, and heart disease with blocked arteries. 3 male members of my family that were heavy smokers died slow, painful deaths in their late 60's and early 70's. Your family must have had good genes.

The last bastion of freedom - keep smoking, boss man

My Mom died from smoking, she was only 62 but diagnosed with endstage COPD at 57, usually smokers get the end stage in their 80's, it just goes to show that smoking is like Russian roulette, some people live a loong time with no side affects and some can fall from it early on like my Mom did.

Just quit, it's not worth it. My Mom couldn't breath on her own, don't end up like that it was toture for her and for me I was only in my early 20's I needed her and still do at 35.

Question - did their slow, painful deaths come under a doctors hand - you know, chemo and radiation - or did they stick it out and meet their faith?

No, disrespect intended - just damned curious.

well with COPD there are no radiation treatments, nothing but oxygen machines, breathing treatments, tracheotomies, lung reduction surgery if able (sadly my Mom was not a candidate because they said her lungs were too far gone) I kinda don't believe that now I think the insurance didn't want to pay) also cpap machines and the constant CO2 levels which can put people in a coma any given second.
so the existence is of which life breathing feels like sucking thru a straw every day until it eventually kills you and is definitely slow and painful no radiation and chemo needed.

also slow and forever mentally painful if you have children who love you and have to see you like that.

Last Edited by Hapablab on 12/05/2012 09:51 PM

hookah head reporting in.

I'm trying to quit but i get to feeling like i have stuff crawling all over me after an hour of no smoking.

I know i have to quit.

Maybe after Dec 21???

Too much stress right now.

I wish they would do away with them, then i'd have no choice. But that wouldnt be fair to others either.
*sigh*

I have heard of people dropping dead shortly after they quit. Its scary.

I have heard of people dropping dead shortly after they quit. Its scary.

Enjoy it. I do ecigs. Great big ones, with lots of heavy metal.

I had to quit the smokes because of very mild copd, and a chronic horrible cough. The Ecig seems to fix it all. LOVE these things!

The one that had lung cancer..the answer is yes. chemo and radiation both were used and the cancer spread anyway. It was nearly unbearable for both him and us. And Yes, I have very conflicted emotions about chemo and radiation.

My father developed severe COPD and had issues with oxygen depletion that led to dementia. He had been a very heavy smoker also.

The Doctor's said my uncle's heart disease was directly caused by his heavy smoking. 2 heart attacks. quadruple by-pass surgery, then congestive heart failure.

I know this is only an opinion, but I feel they would all still likely be around today if they hadn't been such heavy smokers. Maybe I am wrong. But I also feel a little anger at what we went through as a result of what smoking did to them. It was horrible. I know there are many other horrible things like this people go through not related to smoking at all, but why add another one to the pile?? At least, that is my emotion about it.

Paraphrasing a cancer society commercial I heard on the radio several times a couple of years ago:

"120,000 Americans die each year of lung cancer and over half of them never smoked..."

I quit about 8 years ago. I LOVED each and every cigarette I ever smoked, but now I'm happy that I no longer do. Enjoy your smoke, it's good stuff, but not for everyone.

Turtle.

Why did you post this?

If you were truly comfortable being a smoker and "to hell with everyone's judgment", then you would not post this.

YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU IMAGINE YOUR IMAGE OF YOURSELF IS.

tHAT BEING THE CASE, YOU HAVE TO ASK: aM i THIS BODY WITH ITS CRAVINGS AND DESIRE?

The real Turtle, like all self-conscious beings, are sitting on the side-lines and watching their waking-self playing a particular role in a drama.

It is more import for Turtle to know her Self.

Whatever you can observe, as a witness, like in your dream time dramas, is True.

Smoking, or any other social function changes with the times.

Why did you post this thread?

Do you really want to be tobacco free?

Do you really want to be concept free?

Prior to your birth and a thousand years hence,

what were you?

PERFECT.

indubitably

I understand that it is not always chemo or "the radiation", but how many pharms? All the folks I know with copd are on a horde of pharms. Hell, my dad carried a tackle box of pharms and that was in 1990 - I can't imagine now - chemo and radiation are not the worst things and if folks are going to docs - I know there are pharms ...

Again, I mean no disrespect and totally understand how it is to be a kid losing your parent too soon, but how many pharms?

Get yourself some Milk Thistle in Sea Buckthorn Berry... It's a great antioxidant, detoxifies the body of the carcinogens you've been in contact with, it stimulates the production of new liver cells to replace damaged ones and the Buckthorn Berry helps reduce inflammation and the synergistic combination has many other benefits as well. Smokers and non- smokers alike would benefit from this.
Don’t ever think that its cigarettes alone that cause cancer… Like anything we are exposed to in today’s world, they have carcinogens, but there are far worse carcinogens we are exposed to that the government covers up because it doesn’t fit their agenda, or should I say their funders’ agenda.

- Funny how the increase in cancers coincides with the start of nuclear bomb testing

- Funny how countries that have never had nuclear tests and have the highest rates per capita, have some of the lowest rates of cancer.

- Funny how rats subjected to cigarette smoke had lower cancer rates than rats who were not subjected to cigarette smoke when both groups were put in an environment with nuclear fallout.

- Funny how those same rats, one group subjected to cigarette smoke, the other group in normal non-smokey environment, didn’t show any significant difference in cancer rates.

- Funny how those research results didn’t make it to the news, and scientists were not allowed to publish their results… and had to quit and secretly put their findings on the internet.

You may want to look up some of the research out there that has been posted on this site in the past year. Very, very interesting. I wish I could remember the names of those documentaries.. I will check to see if I've saved any of them.