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Mars: Over 100 NASA Scientists Quit Or Retire Early Over ‘Security Obsession’ With Mars Rover – What Are ‘They’ So ‘Obsessed’ About?

 
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Is something HUGE going on with Mars that NASA and the Department of Homeland Security DO NOT want the public to know about? Due to NASA’s new found ‘security obsession’ with the Mars Rover, over 100 NASA scientists and engineers have recently either quit their jobs or retired early. What in the world are NASA and the Department of Homeland Security so obsessed about with Mars and the Mars Rover? According to this story at This Can’t Be Happening:

“Thanks to the zealous wackos at the Department of Homeland Security, back in 2007 during the latter part of the Bush administration an order went out that all workers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena–an organization that is run under contract to NASA by the California Institute of Technology, had to be vetted for high security clearance in order to continue doing their jobs. Never mind that not one of them was or is engaged in secret activities (NASA is a rigorously non-military, scientific agency which not only publishes all its findings, but which invites the active participation of scientists from around the world). In order to continue working at JPL, even scientists who had been with NASA for decades were told they would need a high-level security badge just to enter the premises. To be issued that badge, they were told they would need to agree undergo an intensive FBI check that would look into their prior life history, right back to college.”



Now, who would blame the many scientists and engineers at JPL who took this as an extreme invasion of their privacy? To get their clearance, TPTB were going to contact their neighbors and old colleagues to be interrogated about their drug-use, drinking habits, arrest records as kids, all the countless things that are looked into when doing a high-security background check. Why would NASA scientists be subject to the same prying invasion of their privacy that they would get if they were applying for jobs in the CIA or the Secret Service?

More from This Can’t Be Happening:

“Everyone who wanted to continue doing space science at JPL was told they had to submit to a security investigation.

The cost of this idiocy, which was aggressively pursued to a final pyrrhic victory in the High Court by the Obama Department of Justice (sic), has been grievous, as some 100 veteran scientists at JPL have quit or taken early retirement, rather than open their lives to the FBI.”

What in the world are NASA and the Department of Homeland Security HIDING up on Mars? Every day lately, we are learning more and more via NASA’s own photos, something BIG is going on up there! The security obsession being displayed by NASA and the DHS is just more proof that something HUGE is up. Americans deserve answers! Once again we are playing the whipping boy for a government out of control that does not have our best interests in mind. We pay their salaries, why shouldn’t we DEMAND answers from them or withhold their funding? These out of control, zealous wacko’s need to be broken!

To close this story, I’ll leave you with a comment from a former NASA employee and a closing statement from This Can’t Be Happening.:

Not everyone who quit over this issue was a scientist. Susan Foster, a senior science writer at JPL, began her career there working as a secretary in 1968, even before the first Apollo moon landing. She says she quit solely because of the NASA requirement that she submit to a “waiving of my Fourth Amendment rights or be denied access to the facility” where she had worked for 44 years. She is currently unemployed and looking for work.

What upset her most, she says, was NASA’s plan to use the information it obtained on its scientists’ and employees’ lives to create a “suitability matrix,” which would be used to see if they merited continued employment. In questioning JPL management, Foster says people learned that this “suitability matrix” would be considering things like “whether JPL scientists had participated in political demonstrations that could qualify in NASA’s scheme of things as disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, resisting arrest, unlawful assembly” — all activities that she says many of JPL’s scientists had engaged in over the years. Says Foster, “Criteria such as ‘attitude’ are pretty frightening in their subjectivity, and ‘striking against the government’ is chilling to anyone who has supported, say, a legitimate teachers’ action.”

This disaster at JPL is a classic case of the US security state run amok, and provides yet another example of how the Obama administration, which came into office in 2009 promising to return the country to some kind of sanity and respect for the Constitution, has instead driven 100 invaluable scientists out of JPL, weakening the nation’s already struggling space program, and has put hundreds of scientists’ lives, and the lives of their families, at risk.
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We all had to do it. However, the geniuses at JPL fought it. No conspiracy here at all.
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Is something HUGE going on with Mars that NASA and the Department of Homeland Security DO NOT want the public to know about?
 Quoting: Spatakus 27765643

yeah. rover aint there.
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Is something HUGE going on with Mars that NASA and the Department of Homeland Security DO NOT want the public to know about?
 Quoting: Spatakus 27765643

yeah. rover aint there.
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Fine, but it has nothing to do with the increased security background checks that ALL NASA employees were forced to submit to. Had nothing to do with Mars.
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Re: Mars: Over 100 NASA Scientists Quit Or Retire Early Over ‘Security Obsession’ With Mars Rover – What Are ‘They’ So ‘Obsessed’ About?
Most of the engineers and scientists are private contractors.

they probably felt it was a violation of their privacy

it is basically DHS beginning to pseudo-militarize nasa
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Re: Mars: Over 100 NASA Scientists Quit Or Retire Early Over ‘Security Obsession’ With Mars Rover – What Are ‘They’ So ‘Obsessed’ About?
Espionage and leaks, it is purely a technological and scientific issue. Domestic and foreign espionage is certainly an on going problem, with the rise of technological developing countries like China and India it is not surprising really. And there is a heightened state of paranoia to control information over the last few years which adds to the security issue.
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Re: Mars: Over 100 NASA Scientists Quit Or Retire Early Over ‘Security Obsession’ With Mars Rover – What Are ‘They’ So ‘Obsessed’ About?
Who would want to work for an organisation that lies all the time and its in your face everyday
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bump for the intrigue.
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Re: Mars: Over 100 NASA Scientists Quit Or Retire Early Over ‘Security Obsession’ With Mars Rover – What Are ‘They’ So ‘Obsessed’ About?
They launch spy satellites right...

Why on earth wouldn't big brother want to know who is on the roster???

I mean ya mars could have something...

But clearly they need a security clearance to keep the information about "special projects" classified...

Not to say this is the "right thing to do"

But to say that im glad they dont let just anybody work at nasa...

If I owned nasa I would probably do the same thing.
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We all had to do it. However, the geniuses at JPL fought it. No conspiracy here at all.
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People who are smarter than you didn't want more government intrusion into their lives. Those people ARE Americans and don't need a rectal probe to find out if they are patriotic.

You may bend over all you like, if you don't see the problem.
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Re: Mars: Over 100 NASA Scientists Quit Or Retire Early Over ‘Security Obsession’ With Mars Rover – What Are ‘They’ So ‘Obsessed’ About?
They launch spy satellites right...

Why on earth wouldn't big brother want to know who is on the roster???

I mean ya mars could have something...

But clearly they need a security clearance to keep the information about "special projects" classified...

Not to say this is the "right thing to do"

But to say that im glad they dont let just anybody work at nasa...

If I owned nasa I would probably do the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


They probably already had top secret clearances through standard checks in the past. They've been in the job for 30 years and suddenly they are untrustworthy?

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