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Let's see what you cannot understand.

In the beginning was the Word...

Go ahead, tell me a story about how YOU think it all began. I guarantee you cannot tell the story without beginning with a Word.

And the Word was with God...

What is the word which names the thing that is before the word which names it?

Shhhh...

That is what is meant by God. That spirit of life within you from which ALL your words come.

And the Word was God.

Of course the Word is God. Look at the existence all around you. It is what it is without words. Without words, it would have no meaning. Without words, you would be alone.

So from within comes WORDS! And the words give shape and form to your reality from the Abyss within you.

The WORD IS GOD.
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1 + 1 = 2
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Was the word "BE"?
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Don't need to treat crazy people to the courtesy of a refutation.

We just ignore 'em instead.
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1 + 1 = 2
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1+1 does not equal two

Each one is unique unto itself. They occupy that particular space and time. They are what they are and will never be again.

1 this one is different than those ones.

2 is a number all its own. It like the numbers which come after it represent nothing, for there is no more than ONE of anything.

Just saying...
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Was the word "BE"?
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It's your story, begin with the word of your choosing.
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Don't need to treat crazy people to the courtesy of a refutation.

We just ignore 'em instead.
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Then I am not crazy

or

You failed.
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Let's see what you cannot understand.

In the beginning was the Word...

Go ahead, tell me a story about how YOU think it all began. I guarantee you cannot tell the story without beginning with a Word.

And the Word was with God...

What is the word which names the thing that is before the word which names it?

Shhhh...

That is what is meant by God. That spirit of life within you from which ALL your words come.

And the Word was God.

Of course the Word is God. Look at the existence all around you. It is what it is without words. Without words, it would have no meaning. Without words, you would be alone.

So from within comes WORDS! And the words give shape and form to your reality from the Abyss within you.

The WORD IS GOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29153484


there is more to it than this.
Wherever you go,there you are.

John Doe: Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention.

I have half a mind to head down to Washington and shit on the White House lawn.

Brick Top: Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me.
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there is more to it than this.
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Not yet.

Go look at the OP.

It's as far as I have gone thus far.
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OP is an idiot...

Words were invented by humans...

In the beginning words didnt even fucking exist.

Your whole story is utter crap.
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there is more to it than this.
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Not yet.

Go look at the OP.

It's as far as I have gone thus far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29153484


if thats as far as you have studied the bible then there is still much to be learned .
Wherever you go,there you are.

John Doe: Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention.

I have half a mind to head down to Washington and shit on the White House lawn.

Brick Top: Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me.
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OP is an idiot...

Words were invented by humans...

In the beginning words didnt even fucking exist.

Your whole story is utter crap.
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Well you had to use words to voice this opinion of yours, so I count is as a validation of the OP.

It is your story, write into it what ever you wish to write into it.

Just so ya know, beginning IS a word. The WORD beginning must exist for the idea of a beginning to be known. The WORD represents the idea.

Stupid.
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if thats as far as you have studied the bible then there is still much to be learned .
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If you are too stupid for this class, go to a bible study class.

This IS NOT a Bible study class.

The OP are MY words which you can try to refute if you'd like.

You may find them similarly in certain religious texts, but NONE of them are references here as source material.

So, participate with what I have provided or go start your own thread.
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WORD = SPERM you retards

It comes from the greek word logus which means sperm.

and the word became flesh!

Duh it's sperm!
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OP is an idiot...

Words were invented by humans...

In the beginning words didnt even fucking exist.

Your whole story is utter crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023248


Well you had to use words to voice this opinion of yours, so I count is as a validation of the OP.

It is your story, write into it what ever you wish to write into it.

Just so ya know, beginning IS a word. The WORD beginning must exist for the idea of a beginning to be known. The WORD represents the idea.

Stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29153484


You're either a mediocre troll, or a really idiotic person with absolutely no critical thinking skills or logic.

Regardless of whether you use words to voice an opinion, words were created by humans which did not exist at the beginning of the universe.

All of your "logic" is based on a lie.

Words did not exist before humans.
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1 + 1 = 2
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26+6=1

Look it up....
One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets.
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Let's see what you cannot understand.

In the beginning was the Word...

Go ahead, tell me a story about how YOU think it all began. I guarantee you cannot tell the story without beginning with a Word.

And the Word was with God...

What is the word which names the thing that is before the word which names it?

Shhhh...

That is what is meant by God. That spirit of life within you from which ALL your words come.

And the Word was God.

Of course the Word is God. Look at the existence all around you. It is what it is without words. Without words, it would have no meaning. Without words, you would be alone.

So from within comes WORDS! And the words give shape and form to your reality from the Abyss within you.

The WORD IS GOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29153484


OP, can you define word independently from god?
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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WORD = SPERM you retards

It comes from the greek word logus which means sperm.

and the word became flesh!

Duh it's sperm!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Want proof?

1 John 5:77 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


Now stop taking shit'

It's sperm ... Got it?

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You're either a mediocre troll, or a really idiotic person with absolutely no critical thinking skills or logic.

Regardless of whether you use words to voice an opinion, words were created by humans which did not exist at the beginning of the universe.

All of your "logic" is based on a lie.

Words did not exist before humans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023248


Let me see if I can dumb this down to your level.

Universe is a WORD.

It began as a word.

Once the word was created, more words were added to it to give it definition.

What we see, hear, feel, taste, and smell is reality, not the WORDS we use to identify the various experiences.

Without the WORDS, it is what it is.

We label that the UNIVERSE.

The Universe is born at the point of identification.

It could just as easily be called Timbuktu!

Though that would alter our ability to understand each other only because YOU would be unfamiliar with this new place, and resilient to not accepting my new word for this existence.

You like the program you already have. I get that.

The words are your reality, and you do not want them shaken.

I get that.

So, you have your world of words, and I have mine.

Where we agree, that is where we have understanding.

Are you understanding any of this yet?
Travis Bickle
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Fucking Drunken double post...

Scuze me.

Last Edited by Travis Bickle on 12/05/2012 09:51 PM
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WORD = SPERM you retards

It comes from the greek word logus which means sperm.

and the word became flesh!

Duh it's sperm!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Want proof?

1 John 5:77 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


Now stop taking shit'

It's sperm ... Got it?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Maybe... Maybe in New Zealand your words are interchangeable with Sperm.

Could explain why I never boarded that ship.

Last Edited by Travis Bickle on 12/05/2012 09:50 PM
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if thats as far as you have studied the bible then there is still much to be learned .
 Quoting: EJ25LVR


If you are too stupid for this class, go to a bible study class.

This IS NOT a Bible study class.

The OP are MY words which you can try to refute if you'd like.

You may find them similarly in certain religious texts, but NONE of them are references here as source material.

So, participate with what I have provided or go start your own thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29153484


your words matter not against Gods word so dont act as if they are yours.

Gods word says.... 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

now read and comprehend the rest of this....

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Wherever you go,there you are.

John Doe: Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention.

I have half a mind to head down to Washington and shit on the White House lawn.

Brick Top: Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me.
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OP, can you define word independently from god?
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


God is a Word.

What is a word? Is not symbols which represent ideas?

And if you have an idea of God, then how can it be separate from the word?
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a word is a thing...........all things emerge from nothing..............refute this if you can
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your words matter not against Gods word so dont act as if they are yours.
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Yes you are too stupid for this class.

Like a retarded parrot you went straight for quoting from a book.

Go away zombie.

Your breath smells of the dead.
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a word is a thing...........all things emerge from nothing..............refute this if you can
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Show me nothing.
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You're either a mediocre troll, or a really idiotic person with absolutely no critical thinking skills or logic.

Regardless of whether you use words to voice an opinion, words were created by humans which did not exist at the beginning of the universe.

All of your "logic" is based on a lie.

Words did not exist before humans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023248


Let me see if I can dumb this down to your level.

Universe is a WORD.

It began as a word.

Once the word was created, more words were added to it to give it definition.

What we see, hear, feel, taste, and smell is reality, not the WORDS we use to identify the various experiences.

Without the WORDS, it is what it is.

We label that the UNIVERSE.

The Universe is born at the point of identification.

It could just as easily be called Timbuktu!

Though that would alter our ability to understand each other only because YOU would be unfamiliar with this new place, and resilient to not accepting my new word for this existence.

You like the program you already have. I get that.

The words are your reality, and you do not want them shaken.

I get that.

So, you have your world of words, and I have mine.

Where we agree, that is where we have understanding.

Are you understanding any of this yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29153484


WORDS are just what we use to communicate ideas, but WORDS do not make up make up reality you idiot.

Physical reality is made up of atoms. Yes, I am using the word atom to convey an idea, but the WORD does not make up reality because it continues to exist even without the word.

Your story is complete crap. You fail.

Do you seriously not understand this?
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WORD = SPERM you retards

It comes from the greek word logus which means sperm.

and the word became flesh!

Duh it's sperm!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Want proof?

1 John 5:77 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


Now stop taking shit'

It's sperm ... Got it?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.
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a word is a thing...........all things emerge from nothing..............refute this if you can
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WORDS are sounds which resonate. SOUND WAVES.

The Word of God resonates, and keeps all of the universe in order. If God stopped speaking, the universe as we know it would cease immediately.

WORDS were released through God's voice, and man and God "spoke" together from the beginning. Yes, WORDS were present in the beginning, when God formed all from nothing.

SOUND WAVES form the basis for everything, every element. It is the smallest known element, SOUND WAVES holding all elements together.

Research it.

GOD WAVES. SOUND WAVES.

It's pretty cool.

The greek word for what we call "word" is logos. No, it is NOT the same word as "sperm." That is the same word as "seed."
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OP, can you define word independently from god?
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


God is a Word.

What is a word? Is not symbols which represent ideas?

And if you have an idea of God, then how can it be separate from the word?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29153484


Yes, the "word" is a symbol. A symbol experienced and defined by an observer.

The word simply allows conscious perception. Before you can assign meaning (a word) to something, you have to have a language. You start with "feelings", then you learn how to make mental representations of what you experience within your perspective. God cannot exist before a possibility for interaction and a logic for that interaction to follow. Odds are, if there is a god, it evolved from the chaos ridden void. Out of nothing, something? No. Simply the possibility of it's existence led to it.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?

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