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I'm really sick of all the Catholic bigotry in Catholic posts If you want to see some examples just read the replies in this thread

 
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What about Jesus' sacrifice on the cross?
What about martyrdom and specifically those last martyrs mentioned in Revelation?
 Quoting: pemazocato


What about it, and them?
 Quoting: Shamar


I believe that would constitute God wanting sacrifice in some instances.
 Quoting: pemazocato


No, I don't believe so. Scripture is replete with condemnation of sacrifice, most particularly, of blood sacrifice.
 Quoting: Shamar


You don't understand Shamar...

People continue to sin, Our Lord's one time bloody sacrifice for humanity is
represented in an unbloody manner to the Father in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Calvary is made present in our time, every hour and every day all around the world. This is the highest form of worship.

The grace of the Holy Mass should never be rejected. This is God's plan.
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Do tell, in regard to the sacrifices.
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the christian concept? I don't need to tell you that.... you know already. I no longer adhere to christian concepts.

So, what did you mean then by saying God wanted and approved of blood sacrifices, and when I showed you scriptures that He didn't, you said there was no conflict.
 Quoting: Shamar


Apparently you do not know the difference. The Levitical sacrifices are the bloody ones. Unlike the sacrifices performed by priests like Melchizedek or Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Maybe YOU don't know the difference. Does your God change the rules on people? At one time wanting blood sacrifice, and another time, not wanting it?
 Quoting: Shamar


Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
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the christian concept? I don't need to tell you that.... you know already. I no longer adhere to christian concepts.

So, what did you mean then by saying God wanted and approved of blood sacrifices, and when I showed you scriptures that He didn't, you said there was no conflict.
 Quoting: Shamar


Apparently you do not know the difference. The Levitical sacrifices are the bloody ones. Unlike the sacrifices performed by priests like Melchizedek or Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Maybe YOU don't know the difference. Does your God change the rules on people? At one time wanting blood sacrifice, and another time, not wanting it?
 Quoting: Shamar


Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Shamar,

Fallen away Catholics are the most bitter. Don't be mad at God any longer, you were given the fullness of Truth. You must come home, the Remnant is Roman Catholic.

We've discussed previously, Messianic Judaism and their denominations are Protestant. You can't preach Protestantism while using a few Old Testament terms. You get a combo (mainly Protestantism), the people who rejected Christ and many many centuries later, men who rejected the Church Jesus established.

The fact is sister, the priest scandal was homosexual
not pedophilia. Our confused country, sodomy is fine, we
just voted in a pro-sodomy leader. How nuts. Sodomy is an abomination to God and always will be.
 Quoting: Mary 20541213


Hi Mary......actually, the priest scandal is both.....unfortunately most of the victims were minors...god only knows how much MORE homosexuality went on and goes on...... :(
 Quoting: Shamar


It was homosexual. Sodomites have many perversions.

Another vague slam against the faith because you are a fallen away Catholic selling or use to sell goofy Messianic Judaism, give me break Shamar.

Do not dare quote a word in Scripture, you are quoting a
Catholic book and you know it. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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What about it, and them?
 Quoting: Shamar


I believe that would constitute God wanting sacrifice in some instances.
 Quoting: pemazocato


No, I don't believe so. Scripture is replete with condemnation of sacrifice, most particularly, of blood sacrifice.
 Quoting: Shamar


You don't understand Shamar...

People continue to sin, Our Lord's one time bloody sacrifice for humanity is
represented in an unbloody manner to the Father in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Calvary is made present in our time, every hour and every day all around the world. This is the highest form of worship.

The grace of the Holy Mass should never be rejected. This is God's plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213

........sigh.........
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Apparently you do not know the difference. The Levitical sacrifices are the bloody ones. Unlike the sacrifices performed by priests like Melchizedek or Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Maybe YOU don't know the difference. Does your God change the rules on people? At one time wanting blood sacrifice, and another time, not wanting it?
 Quoting: Shamar


Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975
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Shamar,

Fallen away Catholics are the most bitter. Don't be mad at God any longer, you were given the fullness of Truth. You must come home, the Remnant is Roman Catholic.

We've discussed previously, Messianic Judaism and their denominations are Protestant. You can't preach Protestantism while using a few Old Testament terms. You get a combo (mainly Protestantism), the people who rejected Christ and many many centuries later, men who rejected the Church Jesus established.

The fact is sister, the priest scandal was homosexual
not pedophilia. Our confused country, sodomy is fine, we
just voted in a pro-sodomy leader. How nuts. Sodomy is an abomination to God and always will be.
 Quoting: Mary 20541213


Hi Mary......actually, the priest scandal is both.....unfortunately most of the victims were minors...god only knows how much MORE homosexuality went on and goes on...... :(
 Quoting: Shamar


It was homosexual. Sodomites have many perversions.

Another vague slam against the faith because you are a fallen away Catholic selling or use to sell goofy Messianic Judaism, give me break Shamar.

Do not dare quote a word in Scripture, you are quoting a
Catholic book and you know it. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


from dictionary.com:

pe·do·phile
/ˈpi dəˌfaɪl/ Show Spelled [pee-duh-fahyl] Show IPA
noun, Psychiatry.
an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Maybe YOU don't know the difference. Does your God change the rules on people? At one time wanting blood sacrifice, and another time, not wanting it?
 Quoting: Shamar


Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time?
 Quoting: Shamar


The bloody sacrifices were condemned later, through the Prophets seeing the abuse on the side of Israelites.
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Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time?
 Quoting: Shamar


ok, i think i get where you are going with this......His writings are "outside of time" for those who are reading the words, I guess is your premise?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time?
 Quoting: Shamar


The bloody sacrifices were condemned later, through the Prophets seeing the abuse on the side of Israelites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


we may have some common ground on which to begin to meet.....maybe. kinda. sorta......
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
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I did.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time?
 Quoting: Shamar


The bloody sacrifices were condemned later, through the Prophets seeing the abuse on the side of Israelites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


we may have some common ground on which to begin to meet.....maybe. kinda. sorta......
 Quoting: Shamar


The ground should be the truth about the Word of God.
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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
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I am baptised Catholic too. You cannot rid of the Baptism IMO. You can debunk their pagan teachings and refuse to live by them, though. I do so.
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Maybe YOU don't know the difference. Does your God change the rules on people? At one time wanting blood sacrifice, and another time, not wanting it?
 Quoting: Shamar


Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Check the Bible but it's Catholic in origin. There is no ministerial priesthood in Protestantism or Judaism, only in Catholicism. A priest offers sacrifice.

Explain this verse in Malachi? And share, what is the "clean oblation" Shamar?

1:[11] For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.

Sister, it is a prophecy about the Holy Sacrifice of the
Mass. The "clean oblation" is the body and blood of Our
Lord, the Eucharistic sacrifice.
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Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously, e.g.


Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him ... Hebrews 7:1,Genesis 14:18
8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.

4The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,
You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4

I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I AM! John 8:58
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Check the Bible but it's Catholic in origin. There is no ministerial priesthood in Protestantism or Judaism, only in Catholicism. A priest offers sacrifice.

Explain this verse in Malachi? And share, what is the "clean oblation" Shamar?

1:[11] For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.

Sister, it is a prophecy about the Holy Sacrifice of the
Mass. The "clean oblation" is the body and blood of Our
Lord, the Eucharistic sacrifice.
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Indeed.hf
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But you are not answering my questions. Does God change? does he change his mind? Why would he ask for blood sacrifice and condemn it at the same time? I get the righteousness of the Messiah and his sacrifice for mankind..

Can you answer my questions?
 Quoting: Shamar


I did.

Read your Bible it´s all there: both priesthoods simultaneously
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Check the Bible but it's Catholic in origin. There is no ministerial priesthood in Protestantism or Judaism, only in Catholicism. A priest offers sacrifice.

Explain this verse in Malachi? And share, what is the "clean oblation" Shamar?

1:[11] For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.

Sister, it is a prophecy about the Holy Sacrifice of the
Mass. The "clean oblation" is the body and blood of Our
Lord, the Eucharistic sacrifice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


Indeed.hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


P.S. Not one Catholic has written one of the books collected in the Bible. Get your facts straight.
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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
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I am baptised Catholic too. You cannot rid of the Baptism IMO. You can debunk their pagan teachings and refuse to live by them, though. I do so.
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If you can't be "not Catholic" after leaving the RCC...then it would show what kind of cult it is! What, is it the mafia? Once you are in you can never leave? Even God divorced himself from Israel...there has to be a way to leave the RCC in such a way that you are not considered "fallen away" ..hahahahaha...if not, these people on here saying the RCC is not a cult are dead wrong!
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First of all.. There are twice as many protestant pastors accused of molestation but you dont hear about them cause the 3rd street reformed unitiarian universialist church of God in Christ aint got a dime to their name. The Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars in reparations and investigated the problem and fixed it. Do you know what they found? That in the vast majority.. 96% of the cases that the Priest guilty of these charges were HOMOSEXUAL.. As if we didnt know that sexual disorder leads to greater sexual disorder.. IF you try to be a Priest today they will ask you if your homosexual and attracted to men,, If you are, guess what, your not allowed in,, Problem solved.. That hasent made the news yet but its true, Pedophiles become Priests,.. Priests dont become Pedophiles.
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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
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I am baptised Catholic too. You cannot rid of the Baptism IMO. You can debunk their pagan teachings and refuse to live by them, though. I do so.
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If you can't be "not Catholic" after leaving the RCC...then it would show what kind of cult it is! What, is it the mafia? Once you are in you can never leave? Even God divorced himself from Israel...there has to be a way to leave the RCC in such a way that you are not considered "fallen away" ..hahahahaha...if not, these people on here saying the RCC is not a cult are dead wrong!
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I did not say you cannot leave the church. Meant was the Baptism with water and the Spirit you cannot get rid of in your lifetime.
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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
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I'll pray, it's going to be difficult for you. Prophecy for
fifteen years states the Remnant is Roman Catholic. There is
only one faith, Roman Catholicism. You must come home, decide
to return.

All the Protestant prophetic is preparing Protestants to
accept the faith. God is going to show you personally in
your "awakening", the 2nd Pentecost.

Protestants keep shouting "Jesus is coming soon", they understand this but to do what? He is not returning to endorse 30,000 plus sects, everyone preaching something different.

Why Our Lord's return? This is the state of Protestantism now and started in 1517, one new sect established every week
since then!
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I am sorry. I just can't believe how anyone can follow this religion. It goes against most everything that Jesus taught!
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REVELATION17:4 And the woman(CHURCH) was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
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HE HE
RELIGION IS GOIN BYE BYE

Thread: Christmas tree BANNED in CA senior apartment complex--seniors OUTRAGED...WHATS NEXT?!

I love it

soon our plans will be completed

religion WILL BE ABOLISHED, I can`t wait.

good riddance to bad rubbish

sorry BIBLETARDS, but its time to wake up and join
the living.

soon you will be prosecuted for these dangerous beliefs .
as it should be.

religion has harmed this planet for far too long.
We are not standing for it any longer.

the wheels are set in motion. IT CANNOT BE STOPPED.

religion is GOIN BYE BYE

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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


I am baptised Catholic too. You cannot rid of the Baptism IMO. You can debunk their pagan teachings and refuse to live by them, though. I do so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


If you can't be "not Catholic" after leaving the RCC...then it would show what kind of cult it is! What, is it the mafia? Once you are in you can never leave? Even God divorced himself from Israel...there has to be a way to leave the RCC in such a way that you are not considered "fallen away" ..hahahahaha...if not, these people on here saying the RCC is not a cult are dead wrong!
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I did not say you cannot leave the church. Meant was the Baptism with water and the Spirit you cannot get rid of in your lifetime.
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I did not receive the Holy Spirit while in the RCC. I received the baptism of the Holy Spirit after I abandoned the false teachings of the RCC...you know...the teachings that say you have to be good enough to get into heaven...something already purchased with the price of Jesus's blood. I do not want to nor could I loose the Holy Spirit. He will be with me forever - praise Jesus!
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I am sorry. I just can't believe how anyone can follow this religion. It goes against most everything that Jesus taught!
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Many of their teachings have remained pagan, yes. Like most of the first Christians were pagan too.

BUT!! The RCC priesthood is unique in the whole world, performing the unbloody sacrifices Jesus ordered His disciples to do. Except the pedophils and alike among them.
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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


I'll pray, it's going to be difficult for you. Prophecy for
fifteen years states the Remnant is Roman Catholic. There is
only one faith, Roman Catholicism. You must come home, decide
to return.

All the Protestant prophetic is preparing Protestants to
accept the faith. God is going to show you personally in
your "awakening", the 2nd Pentecost.

Protestants keep shouting "Jesus is coming soon", they understand this but to do what? He is not returning to endorse 30,000 plus sects, everyone preaching something different.

Why Our Lord's return? This is the state of Protestantism now and started in 1517, one new sect established every week
since then!
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Since there is no answer here...I will start my own thread on this question.
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To the Roman Catholics here a question: I was raised in the Catholic church. Today, I completely distance myself from most of its beliefs. Is there a way I can NOT be called a fallen away Catholic by you? I am not now and never will be a Catholic again. I could lose my US citizenship by going to another country and becoming a citizen of that country. I would not then be considered a "fallen away American." I would be a citizen of the other country. There would not be some simple path for me to return to being an American. How do I rid myself of ANYTHING Catholic? I am not merely "fallen away" as you say - that would imply that I would go back to the Catholic church - I will NEVER return to it...I would literally rather saw my own head off than return to the RCC. How do I go past "fallen away" to simply "not Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


I am baptised Catholic too. You cannot rid of the Baptism IMO. You can debunk their pagan teachings and refuse to live by them, though. I do so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


If you can't be "not Catholic" after leaving the RCC...then it would show what kind of cult it is! What, is it the mafia? Once you are in you can never leave? Even God divorced himself from Israel...there has to be a way to leave the RCC in such a way that you are not considered "fallen away" ..hahahahaha...if not, these people on here saying the RCC is not a cult are dead wrong!
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I am making an assumption about a few of you for sake of argument. I am assuming you believe in God. Well if so then there are certain truths about God that are unchangeable.
If he had an organization on earth proclaiming his truth it would not have thousands of factions each holding different beliefs ie protestanism. This organization would have an unbroken chain connecting the date he founded it until now.
And yes I believe he would have created just such an organization and not have left belief in him up to some chance set of experiances and ideas that many put together to form their own cafeteria religion.
And for those of you that believe that there are many paths to God, why would he allow such death and destruction between those different paths over the centuries?
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I am sorry. I just can't believe how anyone can follow this religion. It goes against most everything that Jesus taught!
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Many of their teachings have remained pagan, yes. Like most of the first Christians were pagan too. They mix truth with faksehood. Probably 90% false with 10% truth!

BUT!! The RCC priesthood is unique in the whole world, performing the unbloody sacrifices Jesus ordered His disciples to do. Except the pedophils and alike among them.
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And for those of you that believe that there are many paths to God, why would he allow such death and destruction between those different paths over the centuries?
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Because none of the paths is perfect.

I think, actually I am sure of the Remnant is not Roman-pagan. Even though Catholic. ... Few can understand the difference between the two, paganism and catholicism.

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