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Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved*

 
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Hi Astro,

Thanks for all the work.

I am not a astronomer, just an observer.

My Question:

I look at this website every other day or so:

[link to www.ssec.wisc.edu]

On the FY2E and more so on the FY2D sat, when set to Full Disk and 8 image view, you will see the planet rolling or wobbling. You will notice it does kind of a back and fourth.

Now I don't know if this is actually happening or what.

But if it is, when you go to measure things in the sky could it be time sensitive?

Meaning that for this test all was well, but if at a different time, maybe not well.

How would you do a test to see if things are right, for every second of lets say one full day or week?

Thanks for all your contributions,

Kind Regards

Boro
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Then I guess you missed the point of this thread, to show that you should always look for problems in methodology, don't just trust dodgy evidence, check it, see if it holds up to scrutiny. I said from the very beginning that I believed the initial measurement was faulty and I even stated why. I tested that hypothesis tonight and found that indeed a sturdy telescope solves the problem.

I did precisely what you won't see some dodgy "researcher" on youtube do every time they see what they think is evidence of a "pole shift" or "nibiru." I questioned my own results and re-tested with proper methods.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


All of which is true, and for which i have respect for you for.

But still, does not take away form the fact that this was a misleading alarmist thread.

22 pages for what - a fucked up measurment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25720192

I said from the beginning to expect that. I did this as openly and transparently as humanly possible. I really don't see how you can find fault with me.
the lesson should be " if you want people to take you seroiusly don't cry wolf, and don't publish until you are sure"
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That's another good lesson as well, but in my estimation a greater lesson could be learned from teaching how to question your own results and do the proper legwork to arrive at the correct answer. I explained time and time again that I believed the problem to be the camera tripod. That's not crying wolf.
Imagine you really do see something unusual, a week from now, something you check and it seems correct.
Will anyone believe you now?
 Quoting: AC

Of course. If I check it, show what I'm doing, and explain the results then not only will it give good reason to believe me, but it will make whatever I did repeatable. That's how science works. You don't always, or even usually, get an exciting result. There are entire scientific journals dedicated to negative results. This, however, is an internet forum, not a scientific journal. I think it's more interesting and educational for everyone if they get to come along for the journey and see how it's done step by step as I do it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


And this, folks, is what all scientists performing experiments face quite often - spurious data.
There are whole university courses dedicated to how to handle experimental data.
Suffice to say you cannot just throw it away if you don't like it (unlike kOOks).
One method to get correct data is to repeat the experiment, as Astro did here, with more suitable equipment made for the purpose.

That he was very sure that he knew the source of the error did not mean he could just throw out the suspected results.
Science doesn't work that way. Even the most outrageously obvious errors are recorded for full transparency.
And as some critics have said - yes, most scientists do not advertise their spurious results, they just quietly record them and then deal with them in the data analysis.
Astro decided to give you a peek into what is done to find the actual truth.

The problem is that he tried to be transparent with a conspiracy crowd.
It is, in my opinion, the wrong audience (mostly).


R.
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Hi Astro,

Thanks for all the work.

I am not a astronomer, just an observer.

My Question:

I look at this website every other day or so:

[link to www.ssec.wisc.edu]

On the FY2E and more so on the FY2D sat, when set to Full Disk and 8 image view, you will see the planet rolling or wobbling. You will notice it does kind of a back and fourth.

Now I don't know if this is actually happening or what.

But if it is, when you go to measure things in the sky could it be time sensitive?

Meaning that for this test all was well, but if at a different time, maybe not well.

How would you do a test to see if things are right, for every second of lets say one full day or week?

Thanks for all your contributions,

Kind Regards

Boro
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It was a 20 minute exposure that I did, so even if the axis were "wobbling" back and forth through where it should be, it would be distorted in my image and the odds of it landing exactly where it should be to within less than 3 arcseconds vs being off by 6 arcminutes or more... never going to happen. FY-2D is Fengyun-2D and it's inclined about 2 and three quarter degrees, so it will see a "wobble" as it bobs up and down in its orbit slightly.
[link to www.heavens-above.com]

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Then I guess you missed the point of this thread, to show that you should always look for problems in methodology, don't just trust dodgy evidence, check it, see if it holds up to scrutiny. I said from the very beginning that I believed the initial measurement was faulty and I even stated why. I tested that hypothesis tonight and found that indeed a sturdy telescope solves the problem.

I did precisely what you won't see some dodgy "researcher" on youtube do every time they see what they think is evidence of a "pole shift" or "nibiru." I questioned my own results and re-tested with proper methods.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


All of which is true, and for which i have respect for you for.

But still, does not take away form the fact that this was a misleading alarmist thread.

22 pages for what - a fucked up measurment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25720192

I said from the beginning to expect that. I did this as openly and transparently as humanly possible. I really don't see how you can find fault with me.
the lesson should be " if you want people to take you seroiusly don't cry wolf, and don't publish until you are sure"
 Quoting: AC

That's another good lesson as well, but in my estimation a greater lesson could be learned from teaching how to question your own results and do the proper legwork to arrive at the correct answer. I explained time and time again that I believed the problem to be the camera tripod. That's not crying wolf.
Imagine you really do see something unusual, a week from now, something you check and it seems correct.
Will anyone believe you now?
 Quoting: AC

Of course. If I check it, show what I'm doing, and explain the results then not only will it give good reason to believe me, but it will make whatever I did repeatable. That's how science works. You don't always, or even usually, get an exciting result. There are entire scientific journals dedicated to negative results. This, however, is an internet forum, not a scientific journal. I think it's more interesting and educational for everyone if they get to come along for the journey and see how it's done step by step as I do it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


And this, folks, is what all scientists performing experiments face quite often - spurious data.
There are whole university courses dedicated to how to handle experimental data.
Suffice to say you cannot just throw it away if you don't like it (unlike kOOks).
One method to get correct data is to repeat the experiment, as Astro did here, with more suitable equipment made for the purpose.

That he was very sure that he knew the source of the error did not mean he could just throw out the suspected results.
Science doesn't work that way. Even the most outrageously obvious errors are recorded for full transparency.
And as some critics have said - yes, most scientists do not advertise their spurious results, they just quietly record them and then deal with them in the data analysis.
Astro decided to give you a peek into what is done to find the actual truth.

The problem is that he tried to be transparent with a conspiracy crowd.
It is, in my opinion, the wrong audience (mostly).


R.
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Hi Astro,

Thanks for all the work.

I am not a astronomer, just an observer.

My Question:

I look at this website every other day or so:

[link to www.ssec.wisc.edu]

On the FY2E and more so on the FY2D sat, when set to Full Disk and 8 image view, you will see the planet rolling or wobbling. You will notice it does kind of a back and fourth.

Now I don't know if this is actually happening or what.

But if it is, when you go to measure things in the sky could it be time sensitive?

Meaning that for this test all was well, but if at a different time, maybe not well.

How would you do a test to see if things are right, for every second of lets say one full day or week?

Thanks for all your contributions,

Kind Regards

Boro
 Quoting: BoroBoro

It was a 20 minute exposure that I did, so even if the axis were "wobbling" back and forth through where it should be, it would be distorted in my image and the odds of it landing exactly where it should be to within less than 3 arcseconds vs being off by 6 arcminutes or more... never going to happen. FY-2D is Fengyun-2D and it's inclined about 2 and three quarter degrees, so it will see a "wobble" as it bobs up and down in its orbit slightly.
[link to www.heavens-above.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Ahh ok. Thanks so much.

Kind Regards

Boro

hf
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.. i would hope you didn't do this , knowing it was wrong in the first place just to prove a point...
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That's some serious paranoia you've got there.

Really?
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I believe he's right and tells the truth...but why post it all in the first place if your not sure? I don't see the point in social engineering- the idiots around here will be idiot with or without...
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Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

Oil extraction is also the reason why earth is off it's orbit (whether NASA confirms it or not, we are. There is too much evidence).

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Please send this to all govts around the world as well as mainstream media. Also share this on Facebook, Twitter and other media outlets.
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what !?

doom OFF ???

ahh....dammit...1doh1huffycanny

sigh

it's like saying to hungry hunters : "hey, there's a big prey over there that can fill our stomaches for days"...to find out that it's not the case "ah sorry guys lol, it was jus a mere mirage, hope you're not angry, ah ha ha ha haaaaa"

moral of this fake doom story : never post a doom thread without confirmed data...especially if you are a "scientist" = credibility fail

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Astro, ignore the haters. I for one appreciate that you informed us of what you noticed, even if it turned out to only be an equipment error.

At least if something was wrong, we would of been informed before it all ended.
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Call NASA,RUSSIA and ...TAIWAN ,again.





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Maybe you are thinking everyone is on the same frequency as you.

They are not.

Many will see this not as an "educational thread about how to cross check your results" but instead as " another cry wolf thread".

Just stating facts.

That is how people will see it.,

You might not choose to see that, or acknowledge that.
But no amount of logic or 'what you have actually said' in this thread takes away from that fact.

Like i said - if you want to be taken seriosly, and want to have a good reputation, you don't start 'educational threads' like this concerning axis tilt 2weeks before 12.21.12 on a fucking consiracy forum.

Just to take everyone on 'an educational journey'.
Then be surprised when your reputation suffers.
Know your audience man.

Clearly you are not stupid - but dude - seriously, are you stupid or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25720192


You are one to throw stones, oh owner of houses of a transparent nature.

What reputation do you believe Astromut had before this thread? How has it changed? Why? What is the proper thing Astro should have done? Kept the results to himself? Wouldn't that be precisely what a supposed government psyop would do? What would have been the proper steps to follow, in your opinion? And why would have those steps been a superior choice than what he did?

Astromut did it right. He reported something funny, when his observations were made. He gave ways for others to confirm, he used the proper equipment to measure his observation further, and isolated the error, and reported that too. Even the best and the brightest make mistakes. But the best of the best are their own harshest critics, and spell out their mistakes as carefully and completely as their successes.

Such an admission doesn't make him less reliable. On the contrary, it means that when he *does* see and report things, his observations should be taken very seriously.

Frankly, GLP could use more such 'educational threads,' both now before the 2012 upcoming ridiculous fail, and well into 2013 and beyond as the next crop of doomsayers appears.

Those who would think less of Astromut for doing this aren't likely to have been interested in what he was saying anyway. Anytime Astromut contradicts their claims with solid, verifiable observations, they just accuse him of being a government psyop. This thread wouldn't change those opinions one whit, regardless of how factually fallacious such an opinion might be.

But for those who have any rationality whatsoever, this thread shows that Astromut will report on what he sees and measures regardless if it agrees with *his* own preconceptions or not. That is extremely valuable, and your inability to grasp that shows that any apparent stupidity isn't radiating from Astromut's side of the equation.

Few enough conspiracy buffs will double check themselves at all, let alone with the kind of attention to detail Astromut has just shown. And yet they cry wolf every single day. Get on THEIR cases.
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good job!
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Maybe you are thinking everyone is on the same frequency as you.

They are not.

Many will see this not as an "educational thread about how to cross check your results" but instead as " another cry wolf thread".

Just stating facts.

That is how people will see it.,

You might not choose to see that, or acknowledge that.
But no amount of logic or 'what you have actually said' in this thread takes away from that fact.

Like i said - if you want to be taken seriosly, and want to have a good reputation, you don't start 'educational threads' like this concerning axis tilt 2weeks before 12.21.12 on a fucking consiracy forum.

Just to take everyone on 'an educational journey'.
Then be surprised when your reputation suffers.
Know your audience man.

Clearly you are not stupid - but dude - seriously, are you stupid or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25720192


You are one to throw stones, oh owner of houses of a transparent nature.

What reputation do you believe Astromut had before this thread? How has it changed? Why? What is the proper thing Astro should have done? Kept the results to himself? Wouldn't that be precisely what a supposed government psyop would do? What would have been the proper steps to follow, in your opinion? And why would have those steps been a superior choice than what he did?

Astromut did it right. He reported something funny, when his observations were made. He gave ways for others to confirm, he used the proper equipment to measure his observation further, and isolated the error, and reported that too. Even the best and the brightest make mistakes. But the best of the best are their own harshest critics, and spell out their mistakes as carefully and completely as their successes.

Such an admission doesn't make him less reliable. On the contrary, it means that when he *does* see and report things, his observations should be taken very seriously.

Frankly, GLP could use more such 'educational threads,' both now before the 2012 upcoming ridiculous fail, and well into 2013 and beyond as the next crop of doomsayers appears.

Those who would think less of Astromut for doing this aren't likely to have been interested in what he was saying anyway. Anytime Astromut contradicts their claims with solid, verifiable observations, they just accuse him of being a government psyop. This thread wouldn't change those opinions one whit, regardless of how factually fallacious such an opinion might be.

But for those who have any rationality whatsoever, this thread shows that Astromut will report on what he sees and measures regardless if it agrees with *his* own preconceptions or not. That is extremely valuable, and your inability to grasp that shows that any apparent stupidity isn't radiating from Astromut's side of the equation.

Few enough conspiracy buffs will double check themselves at all, let alone with the kind of attention to detail Astromut has just shown. And yet they cry wolf every single day. Get on THEIR cases.
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He didn't have to say anything until it was a done deal...this thread is a waste, and will teach anyone jack all on here.

You know, I'd go as far to say this is a psy-op, but I believe it's a planned psy-op using the correct information, which makes it an even bigger ploy on those that don't do their research....
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Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

Oil extraction is also the reason why earth is off it's orbit (whether NASA confirms it or not, we are. There is too much evidence).

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Please send this to all govts around the world as well as mainstream media. Also share this on Facebook, Twitter and other media outlets.
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I have always wondered whether oil had an impact on the earths crust, but never heard anyone talking about it.
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good job!
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what job? lmao
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I have read some of this thread, not all, I have never seen you document something you thought was off or not right. Is this the first time you have come up with an off reading?
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Maybe you are thinking everyone is on the same frequency as you.

They are not.

Many will see this not as an "educational thread about how to cross check your results" but instead as " another cry wolf thread".

Just stating facts.

That is how people will see it.,

You might not choose to see that, or acknowledge that.
But no amount of logic or 'what you have actually said' in this thread takes away from that fact.

Like i said - if you want to be taken seriosly, and want to have a good reputation, you don't start 'educational threads' like this concerning axis tilt 2weeks before 12.21.12 on a fucking consiracy forum.

Just to take everyone on 'an educational journey'.
Then be surprised when your reputation suffers.
Know your audience man.

Clearly you are not stupid - but dude - seriously, are you stupid or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25720192


You are one to throw stones, oh owner of houses of a transparent nature.

What reputation do you believe Astromut had before this thread? How has it changed? Why? What is the proper thing Astro should have done? Kept the results to himself? Wouldn't that be precisely what a supposed government psyop would do? What would have been the proper steps to follow, in your opinion? And why would have those steps been a superior choice than what he did?

Astromut did it right. He reported something funny, when his observations were made. He gave ways for others to confirm, he used the proper equipment to measure his observation further, and isolated the error, and reported that too. Even the best and the brightest make mistakes. But the best of the best are their own harshest critics, and spell out their mistakes as carefully and completely as their successes.

Such an admission doesn't make him less reliable. On the contrary, it means that when he *does* see and report things, his observations should be taken very seriously.

Frankly, GLP could use more such 'educational threads,' both now before the 2012 upcoming ridiculous fail, and well into 2013 and beyond as the next crop of doomsayers appears.

Those who would think less of Astromut for doing this aren't likely to have been interested in what he was saying anyway. Anytime Astromut contradicts their claims with solid, verifiable observations, they just accuse him of being a government psyop. This thread wouldn't change those opinions one whit, regardless of how factually fallacious such an opinion might be.

But for those who have any rationality whatsoever, this thread shows that Astromut will report on what he sees and measures regardless if it agrees with *his* own preconceptions or not. That is extremely valuable, and your inability to grasp that shows that any apparent stupidity isn't radiating from Astromut's side of the equation.

Few enough conspiracy buffs will double check themselves at all, let alone with the kind of attention to detail Astromut has just shown. And yet they cry wolf every single day. Get on THEIR cases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I agree with almost everything you said.

Except my point was that right or wrong his reputaion is tarnished by this whole silly thread.

- this is a conspiracy forum.
- Astromut is normally the voice of reason.
- Here he posts a thread that would clearly exite the audience of this forum ( conspricytards) regarding an UNCHECKED observation.
- TWO WEEKS BEOFRE 12.21.12.

Now my reading comprehension is good - I read the thread and i know that blah blah he stated it was likely measurment error.

But the fact remains - credibility is damaged.

Right or wrong-

Thats what you get for publishing early.
Not apprechiating the audience ( conspiracy tard)
not checking your data

You lose PERCIEVED CREDIBILTY.
That is just the way it is.



This whole thread is like Aesops boy shouting " LOOK I'm LIKEY WRONG BUT I THINK I SAW WHAT COULD HAVE BEEEN A WOLF- IT MOST LIKEY WASN"T A WOLF BUT I DID SEE SOMETHING AND IT COULD BE A WOLF- JUST PROBRABLY NOT"


Then telling everyone later around the fire " WELL NO IT WAS NOT A WOLF, FURTHER INSPECTION REVEALED HARE TRACKS, SO IT WAS ACTUALLY A HARE NOT A WOLF THAT I SAW "
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good job!
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what job? lmao
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The one that shows the verses flying across the chemtraile skies is coming from the earth rather than from God's current domain, the 'out there'. If the dead don't rise it's just a game. Why would the God of the living even fuck around in the first place? Being that a new earth and a new heaven were already destined to be a fact at an (still) unknown time this is called the trial run and we shit ourselves before the end, that doesn't mean we have to have verbal diarrhea the whole way to the end.

All of that will combine to fuck up everybody except 33% that do a through investigation before signing onto the program.

There has to be some reason and there are 'look up' verses. The best I can imagine is the deception being at it's strongest in Jerusalem for a period of just 4 days. The chemtrails would be the gloom stuff and land based lasers would provide the moving graphics at a big event that falls flat on it's face by 2 literally coming to life. (now the good part) A pair of fingers pierce the skies and it peels back to display the armies of God and "What's going on here speech'
Job=$$ right??
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To be fair, a guy in a trailer said he saw a wolf. I said I was going to go take a picture and show it to not be a wolf. Unfortunately I end up with a picture that looks like a wolf, but in hindsight I think I know why. I explain it. Now I could have hid the wolf-like picture, doing exactly what so many accuse me of doing, but instead I decide to do the honest thing. I didn't know going into it that the tripod would prove to be unreliable. That was my fault. I shouldn't have added a new complication to my old measurement technique. But I don't regret honestly reporting the problem and openly stating what I thought the problem was.
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Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

Oil extraction is also the reason why earth is off it's orbit (whether NASA confirms it or not, we are. There is too much evidence).

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Please send this to all govts around the world as well as mainstream media. Also share this on Facebook, Twitter and other media outlets.
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Since I don't have the time to read thru 20 or so pages of random BS: Is Doom ON, OFF or PENDING? Thank you!
Trying to get as much space as possible between me....and people
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Re: Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved*
Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change.

Oil is the earth’s natural coolant.
Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer.
Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer.
Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms.

Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust.
Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced.
Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos.

Oil extraction is also the reason why earth is off it's orbit (whether NASA confirms it or not, we are. There is too much evidence).

STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right.

Please send this to all govts around the world as well as mainstream media. Also share this on Facebook, Twitter and other media outlets.
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Tesla was right! But Morgan was greedy bastard, and all others after him.
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Since I don't have the time to read thru 20 or so pages of random BS: Is Doom ON, OFF or PENDING? Thank you!
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Since I don't have the time to read thru 20 or so pages of random BS: Is Doom ON, OFF or PENDING? Thank you!
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To be fair, a guy in a trailer said he saw a wolf. I said I was going to go take a picture and show it to not be a wolf. Unfortunately I end up with a picture that looks like a wolf, but in hindsight I think I know why. I explain it. Now I could have hid the wolf-like picture, doing exactly what so many accuse me of doing, but instead I decide to do the honest thing. I didn't know going into it that the tripod would prove to be unreliable. That was my fault. I shouldn't have added a new complication to my old measurement technique. But I don't regret honestly reporting the problem and openly stating what I thought the problem was.
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Fair enough.

Just saying how some people will see it. Like it or not.

I've no critisism of anything you have done - except to say I find it very hard to beleive that you are unable to see how you did put some of your percieved credibility (at this forum) on the line with this thread - and that you are unable to see that you lost some of it as a result.

Know your audience - really applies here.
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( AND STILL - IT IS PINNED)
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Told y'all he'd be the first to say so when something wasn't right.
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( AND STILL - IT IS PINNED)
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so, isnt that stuff smell fishy?

I guess you think its Noooooottt obviously.




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