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Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved*

 
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I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE IN ASTRONOMY CLUBS. I HAVE PRINTED THIS WHOLE THREAD AND I AM TAKING IT TOO THEM FOR SCRUTANY AND A LAUGH.
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You printed 24 pages? Well, I guess if you're angry enough to type in all caps maybe you would do something like that, but if I saw a guy come into my club with 24 pages he printed off the internet for me to scrutinize, I might think him a little... 'off.' Funny how you think I should have hidden my results and done the very thing I've been accused of doing with so much vitriol. Well, if I say I'm going to do something, and I do it, I'm not going to lie in order to hide the results even I think they're flawed. I'll simply tell you I think they're flawed, like I did here. It's not about "attention whoring," it's about honesty.
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Not Angry. Just baffled. Shaking my head at the whole thing. Makes no sense at all. Even your behavior makes no sense. You appologize to the Mods for moving the thread. Start another one saying its probably flawed but do it anyways and then show up and say YUP flawed. WOW. Now your talking about well this just goes to show you about double checking and flawed equipment.

Have you been using this flawed tripod the whole time prior to this event for your other little science experiments...?

Did you go buy a new and better one for this event.

Sorry. But I just don't get the little experiment you just ran on all of us. This was opening up the Pandora's Box and a can of worms all at once.

The question still begs an answer Astro. Why did you say ANYTHING in the first place...?
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If you had actually read the thread you claim you printed, you'd have answers to every one of your questions you just asked.
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Have you been using this flawed tripod the whole time prior to this event for your other little science experiments...?
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No. If you'd been paying attention you would have noticed that I specifically said it was the first time I attempted to do it with this tripod in this manner. It was faster and enabled me to catch a break in the clouds before it completely clouded up for the night.
Did you go buy a new and better one for this event.
 Quoting: AC

No, I used my normal telescopes.
The question still begs an answer Astro. Why did you say ANYTHING in the first place...?
 Quoting: AC

I told you, I set out to debunk the claim that Orion, and by extension, the sky was tilted abnormally out of place. You are suggesting I should have hidden my results.
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I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE IN ASTRONOMY CLUBS. I HAVE PRINTED THIS WHOLE THREAD AND I AM TAKING IT TOO THEM FOR SCRUTANY AND A LAUGH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454


You printed 24 pages? Well, I guess if you're angry enough to type in all caps maybe you would do something like that, but if I saw a guy come into my club with 24 pages he printed off the internet for me to scrutinize, I might think him a little... 'off.' Funny how you think I should have hidden my results and done the very thing I've been accused of doing with so much vitriol. Well, if I say I'm going to do something, and I do it, I'm not going to lie in order to hide the results even I think they're flawed. I'll simply tell you I think they're flawed, like I did here. It's not about "attention whoring," it's about honesty.
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Not Angry. Just baffled. Shaking my head at the whole thing. Makes no sense at all. Even your behavior makes no sense. You appologize to the Mods for moving the thread. Start another one saying its probably flawed but do it anyways and then show up and say YUP flawed. WOW. Now your talking about well this just goes to show you about double checking and flawed equipment.

Have you been using this flawed tripod the whole time prior to this event for your other little science experiments...?

Did you go buy a new and better one for this event.

Sorry. But I just don't get the little experiment you just ran on all of us. This was opening up the Pandora's Box and a can of worms all at once.

The question still begs an answer Astro. Why did you say ANYTHING in the first place...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454


If you had actually read the thread you claim you printed, you'd have answers to every one of your questions you just asked.
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I guess he plans on reading it on his 24 printed out pages when he shares them with his astronomy club.
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You printed 24 pages? Well, I guess if you're angry enough to type in all caps maybe you would do something like that, but if I saw a guy come into my club with 24 pages he printed off the internet for me to scrutinize, I might think him a little... 'off.' Funny how you think I should have hidden my results and done the very thing I've been accused of doing with so much vitriol. Well, if I say I'm going to do something, and I do it, I'm not going to lie in order to hide the results even I think they're flawed. I'll simply tell you I think they're flawed, like I did here. It's not about "attention whoring," it's about honesty.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Not Angry. Just baffled. Shaking my head at the whole thing. Makes no sense at all. Even your behavior makes no sense. You appologize to the Mods for moving the thread. Start another one saying its probably flawed but do it anyways and then show up and say YUP flawed. WOW. Now your talking about well this just goes to show you about double checking and flawed equipment.

Have you been using this flawed tripod the whole time prior to this event for your other little science experiments...?

Did you go buy a new and better one for this event.

Sorry. But I just don't get the little experiment you just ran on all of us. This was opening up the Pandora's Box and a can of worms all at once.

The question still begs an answer Astro. Why did you say ANYTHING in the first place...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454


If you had actually read the thread you claim you printed, you'd have answers to every one of your questions you just asked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


I guess he plans on reading it on his 24 printed out pages when he shares them with his astronomy club.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hey 8035454, be sure to share this thread that you think is such a great catch too:
Thread: SO when did the moon start waxing from top to bottom? POLE SHIFT HAS BEGUN!
I dare you to share that one.
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OP, you are invited here: Thread: Is The Current Ecliptic Right?
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this^^^
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Question is...? The Burning Question.

WHY THE FUCK SAY ANYTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE. GIVE ME A BREAK. ASTRO BEING ASTRO WOULD HAVE DOUBLE CHECKED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE BEFORE HAVING HAD OPENED HIS MOUTH OR SHOULD HAVE DOUBLE CHECKED BEFORE OPENING HIS MOUTH.

I CALL BULLSHIT. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE HIM BUT BECAUSE BY POSTING HIS MAYBE ITS OUT I'M DOUBLE CHECKING HE KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN. CREATING A MONSTER.

ANOTHER POSTER SAID CLASSIC ATTENTION HORRORING. WELL KIND OF LOOKS THAT WAY.

I'M DONE WITH ASTRO.AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THE GUY IS A PEICE OF SHIT AND A GAME PLAYER OF THE WORST KIND.

I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE IN ASTRONOMY CLUBS. I HAVE PRINTED THIS WHOLE THREAD AND I AM TAKING IT TOO THEM FOR SCRUTANY AND A LAUGH.

THIS IS HIGHLY IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR. FUCK HIM.IF THE REST OF YOU DON'T SEE THE GAME THAT JUST GOT PLAYED HERE THEN YOUR JUST SUCKED IN STUPID. ASTRO IS A NARCISSTIC SOCIOPATH.
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I stand by my original post. This. Tangle it up however you want. Blend it and mash it. Thats what your good at.
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I stand by my original post. This. Tangle it up however you want. Blend it and mash it. Thats what your good at.
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Of course you do. You're the kind of person who thinks it's odd the moon can look "sideways" when close to the horizon, even saying so immediately after a post showing that it's nothing novel. You're exactly the kind of person I would expect to get angry at me.
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OP, you are invited here: Thread: Is The Current Ecliptic Right?
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this^^^
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Which is the max angle extension of a planet relative to the horizon wieved from the earth?
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Shaka, when the walls fell.
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Astro, you are a charlatan and will soon be exposed as such. You should be shamed of yourself.
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Assuming that Polaris is off by 6 degrees - what does that mean for us here on Earth in Layman's terms?

Thanks hf
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It means it's off by 6 degrees. Earth tilt?
 Quoting: ~Spaze*Man~


no axis shift not tilt change, there is a difference.
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Astro, you are a charlatan and will soon be exposed as such. You should be shamed of yourself.
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Nope.
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Astro thanks for all the measurements and stuff you did, very cool equipment too.

But I don't get it, the fact, that the guy in the video said, is still there?
If he makes a new video where we could see the Orion rising from the other place, then it's kinda tested by you, but it's still rising from a different place or is the guy there just a bit wrong with his statements?

Maybe I missed the answere somewhere in these pages.
Someone may answere.

Thaanks
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You don't get how this whole "out of place" thing works. If the guy makes a vid showing Orion rising, Orion will rise where it always rises. The guy will say: "It USED to rise over THERE!", but he is wrong about that. Get it?
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I stand by my original post. This. Tangle it up however you want. Blend it and mash it. Thats what your good at.
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Of course you do. You're the kind of person who thinks it's odd the moon can look "sideways" when close to the horizon
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uaattt? pennywise


interesting, this is another news about your science!

Now, if I tell you that the moon can set in stand up mode, will you trust me?
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Still and all, what would it have meant to this planet if your numbers were off? Or is it impossible to know given that there are no previous statistics?
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I stand by my original post. This. Tangle it up however you want. Blend it and mash it. Thats what your good at.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454

Of course you do. You're the kind of person who thinks it's odd the moon can look "sideways" when close to the horizon
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uaattt? pennywise


interesting, this is another news about your science!

Now, if I tell you that the moon can set in stand up mode, will you trust me?
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Can vs will. Depends on a variety of factors. Please learn english.
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I stand by my original post. This. Tangle it up however you want. Blend it and mash it. Thats what your good at.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454

Of course you do. You're the kind of person who thinks it's odd the moon can look "sideways" when close to the horizon
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


uaattt? pennywise


interesting, this is another news about your science!

Now, if I tell you that the moon can set in stand up mode, will you trust me?
 Quoting: DUCM900


Can vs will. Depends on a variety of factors. Please learn english.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


'depends of variety factors' means nothing.

so it depends of WHAT?


PS: do you know some italian words?


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I stand by my original post. This. Tangle it up however you want. Blend it and mash it. Thats what your good at.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454

Of course you do. You're the kind of person who thinks it's odd the moon can look "sideways" when close to the horizon
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


uaattt? pennywise


interesting, this is another news about your science!

Now, if I tell you that the moon can set in stand up mode, will you trust me?
 Quoting: DUCM900


Can vs will. Depends on a variety of factors. Please learn english.
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Astro, is it too much of to ask you to get an Iludium Q-36 to blast the clouds out the way, so that you could make accurate measurements?
[link to cogdogblog.com]

laugh
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Of course you do. You're the kind of person who thinks it's odd the moon can look "sideways" when close to the horizon
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


uaattt? pennywise


interesting, this is another news about your science!

Now, if I tell you that the moon can set in stand up mode, will you trust me?
 Quoting: DUCM900


Can vs will. Depends on a variety of factors. Please learn english.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


'depends of variety factors' means nothing.

so it depends of WHAT?


PS: do you know some italian words?


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 Quoting: DUCM900


It means it depends on a variety of factors. For instance, your location on earth as well as the position of the sun and moon in the sky. Ciao!
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It means it depends on a variety of factors.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


NOT many at all and the only one does not influence so much the stuff.

For instance, your location on earth
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Call it just with its name: latitude

the position of the sun and moon in the sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


NOT.


SO at this point, I don't know where you did study /or read something about astronomy.




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I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE IN ASTRONOMY CLUBS. I HAVE PRINTED THIS WHOLE THREAD AND I AM TAKING IT TOO THEM FOR SCRUTANY AND A LAUGH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454


You printed 24 pages? Well, I guess if you're angry enough to type in all caps maybe you would do something like that, but if I saw a guy come into my club with 24 pages he printed off the internet for me to scrutinize, I might think him a little... 'off.' Funny how you think I should have hidden my results and done the very thing I've been accused of doing with so much vitriol. Well, if I say I'm going to do something, and I do it, I'm not going to lie in order to hide the results even I think they're flawed. I'll simply tell you I think they're flawed, like I did here. It's not about "attention whoring," it's about honesty.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Not Angry. Just baffled. Shaking my head at the whole thing. Makes no sense at all. Even your behavior makes no sense. You appologize to the Mods for moving the thread. Start another one saying its probably flawed but do it anyways and then show up and say YUP flawed. WOW. Now your talking about well this just goes to show you about double checking and flawed equipment.

Have you been using this flawed tripod the whole time prior to this event for your other little science experiments...?

Did you go buy a new and better one for this event.

Sorry. But I just don't get the little experiment you just ran on all of us. This was opening up the Pandora's Box and a can of worms all at once.

The question still begs an answer Astro. Why did you say ANYTHING in the first place...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8035454


Hey, Anon, I just gotta say that you're an ass. Oh, and stupid.

I'll back Astro up on this til the cows come home. He found an anomaly. He said he thought it was his equipment. A tripod to be exact.

It's obvious that we're all wearing on him, lol, because he got excited and thought he found something, so, he was honest and let us know immediately. He also let us know that when he used his normal equipment that everything was fine, and it WAS only his equipment...I appreciate the freaking hell out of that. I know who I can count on for some honest, scientific answers.

His normal equipment is not flawed. His measurements are never wrong. His statements have never been proven to be wrong. He's not an alarmist. In fact, he's the man who is always disproving us, with science.

Again, Anon, you are a fucking ass. I don't know what you're trying to prove to your buddies by showing them this thread. The only thing you're proving to anybody on here is that you're completely stupid and shallow and super asshole-ish.

Have a nice day.
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It means it depends on a variety of factors.
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NOT many at all and the only one does not influence so much the stuff.

For instance, your location on earth
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Call it just with its name: latitude

the position of the sun and moon in the sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


NOT.


SO at this point, I don't know where you did study /or read something about astronomy.
 Quoting: DUCM900

Yes, the position of the sun and moon do matter. I thought it was fairly self-explanatory as to why, but if you don't believe me check it out for yourself:
[link to www.stellarium.org]
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Yes, the position of the sun and moon do matter.
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NOT and obviously, you can't find what you claim in books (just because its nonsense crap).


I thought it was fairly self-explanatory as to why, but if you don't believe me check it out for yourself:
[link to www.stellarium.org]
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This freaking thing is just a tool trying to rappresentate whats happening these days.
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Yes, the position of the sun and moon do matter.
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NOT and obviously, you can't find what you claim in books (just because its nonsense crap).


I thought it was fairly self-explanatory as to why, but if you don't believe me check it out for yourself:
[link to www.stellarium.org]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This freaking thing is just a tool trying to rappresentate whats happening these days.
 Quoting: DUCM900


give it a rest dude
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give it a rest dude
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spooky man here...
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I would still like to thank you dr astro man. Even thou i see ppl whining here becouse they cant grasp the fact that you shared something theoretical and wanted to recheck. I liked this work, i realy wish i could remove all the stupid spam so i could read it easyer :D Keep going ^^
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Yes, the position of the sun and moon do matter.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


NOT and obviously, you can't find what you claim in books (just because its nonsense crap).
 Quoting: DUCM900

Yes, I can. It's mentioned here:
[link to www.barnesandnoble.com]
I thought it was fairly self-explanatory as to why, but if you don't believe me check it out for yourself:
[link to www.stellarium.org]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This freaking thing is just a tool trying to rappresentate whats happening these days.
 Quoting: duc

Prove it. It's open source. Show where in the code there's a conspiracy.
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Yes, the position of the sun and moon do matter.
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NOT and obviously, you can't find what you claim in books (just because its nonsense crap).

 Quoting: DUCM900


Book reference: [link to www.answers.com]

Telescope use site: [link to www.celestron.com]


Sky watching site: [link to www.stargazing.net]
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Yes, the position of the sun and moon do matter.
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NOT and obviously, you can't find what you claim in books (just because its nonsense crap).
 Quoting: DUCM900

Yes, I can. It's mentioned here:
[link to www.barnesandnoble.com]
I thought it was fairly self-explanatory as to why, but if you don't believe me check it out for yourself:
[link to www.stellarium.org]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This freaking thing is just a tool trying to rappresentate whats happening these days.
 Quoting: duc

Prove it. It's open source. Show where in the code there's a conspiracy.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are posting the same crappy garbage things.

Folks just rent a book in a library and you'll see that what I wrote is simply right and obvious. You'll will never find just a single image of a sideway moon and relative text to describe it, even near the equator zones where can be tilted just a little due to earth field rotation.

You can take a look also in movies before 2007, your own video or photos and other stuff.

The scumming people (or ignorant ones) are full online.

Simply do not follow the garbage stuff.


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Yes, the position of the sun and moon do matter.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


NOT and obviously, you can't find what you claim in books (just because its nonsense crap).
 Quoting: DUCM900

Yes, I can. It's mentioned here:
[link to www.barnesandnoble.com]
I thought it was fairly self-explanatory as to why, but if you don't believe me check it out for yourself:
[link to www.stellarium.org]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This freaking thing is just a tool trying to rappresentate whats happening these days.
 Quoting: duc

Prove it. It's open source. Show where in the code there's a conspiracy.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are posting the same crappy garbage things.
 Quoting: DUCM900

You said it could not be found in a book. I gave you a specific book reference that it can be found in. Pages 11-14.
Folks just rent a book in a library and you'll see that what I wrote is simply right and obvious.
 Quoting: Duc

See above, what you said is dead wrong. This book talks all about it.
[link to www.barnesandnoble.com]
I'm sorry but that's not even up for debate. If you pick up some random astronomy book it may not mention it, but there are books that DO mention it, in direct contradiction to what you claimed.
You can take a look also in movies before 2007, your own, video or photos and other stuff.
 Quoting: Duc

[link to imageshack.us]
Also there's a picture of it taken in the mid 1980's, in chapter 8 of this book:
[link to www.valorebooks.com]
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Re: Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved*
Taking a look at the original post and claim by the guy in the first place somthing is glaringly obvious. The post was actually about the SOUTH POLE not being where it should be. He then went off on a rant which is unfortunate.

A person also has to ask themselves why Astro went off on a rant about maybe but I'll check just to make sure which appears to me a bit of a smoke screen for the real prise here and thats now being overlooked.

Who cares about the orion Belt at this stage of the game and the fact that Astro made the North Star the center of attention. Smoke Screen.

The real prise is that the South Pole is out of whack as was pointed out in the post and that everybody has lost sight of. The South Pole being out is what will effect life on this planet. The rest of this shit is just that. A bunch of shit.

If I didn't know any better this whole thing was created to simply cover up the real story here. The South Pole being that far out of alignment is a precursor to a Pole Shift. That was the point the guy was trying to make in the first place. Keep your eye on the ball everybody.

Cause the rest of this shit is just that BULLSHIT. Go back and read the original post. This is a sideshow smoke show.

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