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I'm sure tomorrow there will be a very thorough and articulate explanation to why his equipment was off...it doesn't take anything but your eyes to see that the sun, moon, and stars have shifted in relationship to the horizon and topographical landmarks.

Dr Astros job is to keep everyone pacified to the reality of our piles shifting a long as he can
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my piles do not shift.
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I was expecting something a lot more creative, you must have gotten a pay cut shill
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oh for fuck's sake, it is called 'humor'. you should really check it out sometime, mind blowing stuff.
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>hurr durr 2012 doom.
GTFO you fucktard.
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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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Thank you Astro!!!!bump
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our agents are talking with astro right now. He will see reason and report back that everything is normal
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Shills are all here, hey guys how are you're douche bags this morning? Water not warm enough?
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I'm sure tomorrow there will be a very thorough and articulate explanation to why his equipment was off...it doesn't take anything but your eyes to see that the sun, moon, and stars have shifted in relationship to the horizon and topographical landmarks.

Dr Astros job is to keep everyone pacified to the reality of our piles shifting a long as he can
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my piles do not shift.
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I was expecting something a lot more creative, you must have gotten a pay cut shill
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oh for fuck's sake, it is called 'humor'. you should really check it out sometime, mind blowing stuff.
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Mind blowing? Geez you are as unintelligible as you are dramatic
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our agents are talking with astro right now. He will see reason and report back that everything is normal
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Thats without shills agents as well, obviously.
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Amazing how whenever Astro posts, his army of yes men and shills come here to say how credible he is blah blah blah.

Tomorrow he'll say everything is fine, it was the flimsy tri-pod that gave him a false measurement.

Repeat: It only takes a set of eyes (if you use them) to see the sun, moon, and stars has shifted in relationship to the topographical landmarks here on Earth.

What does this mean? The magnetic poles are shifting, good luck and enjoy the ride
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If you think those have shifted enough to notice them by eye then your not using your eyes right. Eclipses still happen on schedule. Stonehenge still works. Manhattanhenge still works. The Inidana native american mounds still line up with the soltices.
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There are some excellent photos at this link of the anomoly Dr. Astro is following up on. Nevermind the Zetas, this appears to have been going on for the better part of this past decade.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"While Polaris is the North Star today, it won't always remain so. The Earth's axis actually wobbles over centuries in a pattern that astronomers call precession. In the year 14,000, this precession will aim the Earth's axis closer to the bright star Vega than Polaris." Not sure I buy the whole "by the year 14,000" but whatever...here's that link while we wait on Dr. Astro to report back!

[link to www.space.com]

[link to mydarksky.org]
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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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Mods, please forgive my cross-posting this from the other thread, but I believe this anomaly deserves its own thread until resolved. Updates will be forthcoming.

While testing the rather silly claim that the constellation Orion moved out of place, I found that Orion was where it should be, but the offset from Polaris to the north celestial pole appears to be off from the expected value by about 6 arcminutes. This may be due to flexure or settling in the flimsy camera tripod, but the only way to know will be to repeat this measurement telescopically. Further posts will detail repeated measurements starting tomorrow if weather allows.
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Appreciate your view on this a lot, Dr. Astro!

I'm not nearly as educated as you in this particular area, but still understand well enough to have become convinced, there is something causing these observations made by many, including myself.

Now I don't have the gear to make any measurements and haven't had the patience to come up with any home-made arrangements, but I have definitely noticed things such as the sun's position appearing to be significantly different from where it "should" have been at that particular time, etc.

The weird thing is, these anomalies appear to be taking place only now and then. Should this have something to do with Earth's axis "wobbling" or anything alike, then that should certainly be picked up by many professional and amateur astronomers alike - just as you Dr. Astro mentioned in the original Orion thread ( Thread: Orion is in the Wrong Place!!!

Astro, from previous experience I know how thorough you are with your analysis. The fact that you're saying there might be something to this tells me very much, especially since my personal observations and "an educated hunch" are pointing the same way.

Very much hoping for further details!

And thanks for the excellent work!
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If telescopic measurement confirms it... I'll probably take a sniper bullet in the head because there's no way that kind of change could be kept secret without a mass assassination of every person like me.
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Hey, is your conspiracy side showing?

Seriously, keep up the good work!

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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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Move along, nothing to see here.
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I already accounted for precession. My measurement came out to be 35 arcminutes, not 42 as you point out it should be. I've done this many times before with the telescope and it always matched up with the predicted value after accounting for precession.
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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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^that^ is important information.

Has Astro responded to this info?

Thanks for the explanation Dr. PhD
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There are some excellent photos at this link of the anomoly Dr. Astro is following up on. Nevermind the Zetas, this appears to have been going on for the better part of this past decade.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"While Polaris is the North Star today, it won't always remain so. The Earth's axis actually wobbles over centuries in a pattern that astronomers call precession. In the year 14,000, this precession will aim the Earth's axis closer to the bright star Vega than Polaris." Not sure I buy the whole "by the year 14,000" but whatever...here's that link while we wait on Dr. Astro to report back!

[link to www.space.com]

[link to mydarksky.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373421


Precession is being known from antiquity, but I am sure that Dr.Astro knows that. I mean it is a 101 subject in elementary Astronomy. Dr. Astro is claiming an instant jump of 6 arcminutes (either of Polaris or the Earth's axis, I cannot figure since my english are not the best), which is clearly a wrong measurement, since an axis movement would fuck up the view of the whole celestial sphere and Polaris system wouldn't be able to jump 4 light years away from it's initial position.
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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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I was expecting Cthulhu to show up at any second. I guess I can stop crapping my pants now.

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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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^that^ is important information.

Has Astro responded to this info?

Thanks for the explanation Dr. PhD
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Yeah, here's the link: Thread: Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved* (Page 3)
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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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Move along, nothing to see here.
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I already accounted for precession. My measurement came out to be 35 arcminutes, not 42 as you point out it should be. I've done this many times before with the telescope and it always matched up with the predicted value after accounting for precession.
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You know, if your calculations prove correct, you might write up an article and submit it for peer review to a scientific journal.
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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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Move along, nothing to see here.
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I already accounted for precession. My measurement came out to be 35 arcminutes, not 42 as you point out it should be. I've done this many times before with the telescope and it always matched up with the predicted value after accounting for precession.
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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
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Move along, nothing to see here.
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I already accounted for precession. My measurement came out to be 35 arcminutes, not 42 as you point out it should be. I've done this many times before with the telescope and it always matched up with the predicted value after accounting for precession.
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So closer to 7, or between 6 and 7 off then....
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You don't know the half of it. From this forum, 4/19:

See, what is significant about "Mickey" is he represents the SOURCE or the 'Genesis' of this whole phenomenon, and is literally 'crowned' so to speak with the full majesty of who the 'Nobody' really is and is all about

Look at his his 'belt'. His 'visage is marred' in that one of his buttons is 'loose'...

He is actually ORION

Where all the 'stars' are born...


You gotta watch Mickey's belt while he steers the ship:

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Dr. Astro - I thought you would have know this. The declination of Polaris for the equinox J2000.0 (i.e. the beginning of the year 2000) was +89° 158242; 518243;. Precession is causing the pole to move closer to Polaris and its declination is now +89° 18', which makes it 42' (0.7°) from the north celestial pole. It will continue to get closer to the pole until the end of the century, when it will be 0.5° away. Your location on the Earth only affects the altitude of the pole and Polaris above the horizon and not the separation of Polaris from the pole. The pole would appear 32° above the horizon from your latitude (i.e. it is the same value as your latitude). So you can complete your tests, but this is normal.
 Quoting: Dr. PhD 23168991


^that^ is important information.

Has Astro responded to this info?

Thanks for the explanation Dr. PhD
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Yeah, here's the link: Thread: Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved* (Page 3)
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Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!

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Nice!!!!!

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Mods, please forgive my cross-posting this from the other thread, but I believe this anomaly deserves its own thread until resolved. Updates will be forthcoming.

While testing the rather silly claim that the constellation Orion moved out of place, I found that Orion was where it should be, but the offset from Polaris to the north celestial pole appears to be off from the expected value by about 6 arcminutes. This may be due to flexure or settling in the flimsy camera tripod, but the only way to know will be to repeat this measurement telescopically. Further posts will detail repeated measurements starting tomorrow if weather allows.

[news, then you get a scientist. When you convince him you aren't asking about Nibiru he may answer.

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I was beyond curious so i did some searching. I don't know if this is the same value, but it sure looks like it. IF you are right, yikes! Fingers crossed!

I can't post the picture shown, but please take a look at it to get an idea of how large 6 arcminutes are.


This incredible picture was taken by the MPG/ESO 2.2-metre telescope at the European Southern Observatory’s La Silla Observatory in Chile. The chunk of sky shown in this image is pretty big for a deep sky photo – about 6 arcminutes on a side. For comparison, the Moon is about 30 arcminutes across, so we’re still talking just a teeny region. But look at all those stars!

[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]


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our agents are talking with astro right now. He will see reason and report back that everything is normal
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