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Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved*

 
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When was the last time you checked the measurement and it was correct?

If Polaris actually IS 6 arcminutes off, then you could roughly guesstimate how the time it took.
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Last time I checked was January, but something like this would not be able to remain hidden for long before amateurs would either find it and mention it, or entire astronomy neighborhoods get wiped out. Last I checked the guys at Arizona sky village and chiefland astronomy village didn't all suddenly drop dead.
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so in case (just 1% of amateurs astronomer is no sheep addicted), what will they do? tell me

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When was the last time you checked the measurement and it was correct?

If Polaris actually IS 6 arcminutes off, then you could roughly guesstimate how the time it took.
 Quoting: CalmShock

Last time I checked was January, but something like this would not be able to remain hidden for long before amateurs would either find it and mention it, or entire astronomy neighborhoods get wiped out. Last I checked the guys at Arizona sky village and chiefland astronomy village didn't all suddenly drop dead.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


January? By now somebody should had realized something was really going on.

It must be some error Astro... I can't find any other logical explanation.
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dont you love how this prick beats up everyone who says the earth, etc. is off kilter and now he does it.

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January? By now somebody should had realized something was really going on.

It must be some error Astro... I can't find any other logical explanation.
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I wrote 1% but its a very optimistic.

However those 0.01% what can do? maybe going to Larry King show? cmon...
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He's not claiming earth is off kilter. He's saying that he noticed a slight discrepancy between a predicted value and what he recorded.
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January? By now somebody should had realized something was really going on.

It must be some error Astro... I can't find any other logical explanation.
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I wrote 1% but its a very optimistic.

However those 0.01% what can do? maybe going to Larry King show? cmon...
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Maybe discussing the issue all over the net?
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dont you love how this prick beats up everyone who says the earth, etc. is off kilter and now he does it.

skull_fing
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Dr. Astro is simply a guy who does it his way. Although, I'll spit my coffee if he should ever announce (whispers) planet you-know-what.

Anyway, what's 6 arcminutes? It's nothing, right?
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dont you love how this prick beats up everyone who says the earth, etc. is off kilter and now he does it.

skull_fing
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Is it...

a) HYPOCRISY
b) IRONY
c) KARMA
d) ALL OF THE ABOVE

Thread: Are these all connected????

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dont you love how this prick beats up everyone who says the earth, etc. is off kilter and now he does it.

skull_fing
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He has the courage to step forward & report his tentative findings.

All you have is an obscene gesture.

Sad ... really.
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He's not claiming earth is off kilter. He's saying that he noticed a slight discrepancy between a predicted value and what he recorded.
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Really?
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Last I checked the guys at Arizona sky village and chiefland astronomy village didn't all suddenly drop dead.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hmmmm.... And when exactly was the last time you checked...? ;)

It does seem like it was more of a tripod settling like you said, although if there has been bad weather conditions for everyone including Chiefland, maybe it's gone unnoticed or they're waiting for another opportunity to confirm this as you are...

That would sort of indicate this anomaly has happened very recently and would , in my mind, accelerate.
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Mods, ...

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But something about this picture I took isn't adding up...
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I'm consistently coming back to a distance of about 35 arcminutes for Polaris from the north celestial pole. That ain't right. It should be just shy of 41 arcminutes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well, it's quite clear to me that you've travelled forward in time to 2039... Got any hot stock tips?

Not sure where you're going with this...


R.
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O shit! There must be something SERIOUS that our attentions is being diverted from.
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dont you love how this prick beats up everyone who says the earth, etc. is off kilter and now he does it.

skull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246336


Why would that piss you off? That would just mean he has integrity. Assuming any of this is even true, he wasn't agreeing with people beforehand because he couldn't verify any of the claims with proof.

Apparently, he was trying to investigate another claim made that a constellation was in an abnormal position in relation to an observer, and discovered this anomaly.

I don't believe anything this is actually true though. At the very most, I think that either he or his equipment has made some kind of error.

If we were to combine all of the claims made by people..it would make absolutely no sense. Sun in wrong spot, moon in wrong spot, constellations over here, now there over there.

The most logical explanation to everything is we are noticing the effects of the changing magnetics of the earth, and this is exaggerating everyone's imagination.

We have real proof of the magnetics, bees dying, birds flying in the wrong direction, birds dying in mass, odd weather, frequent earthquakes, etc..but, we don't have any solid proof of anything else. No proof of a nibiru or anything of that scale.
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January? By now somebody should had realized something was really going on.

It must be some error Astro... I can't find any other logical explanation.
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I wrote 1% but its a very optimistic.

However those 0.01% what can do? maybe going to Larry King show? cmon...
 Quoting: DUCM900


Maybe discussing the issue all over the net?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29142558


yeah. infact those 0.01% noticed the moon in sideway mode (me too), they reported it, but obviously the sheep are the most there.

However mainstream with TV and other BS, shills, etc controls the stuff in any case.
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When was the last time you checked the measurement and it was correct?

If Polaris actually IS 6 arcminutes off, then you could roughly guesstimate how the time it took.
 Quoting: CalmShock

Last time I checked was January, but something like this would not be able to remain hidden for long before amateurs would either find it and mention it, or entire astronomy neighborhoods get wiped out. Last I checked the guys at Arizona sky village and chiefland astronomy village didn't all suddenly drop dead.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Media has gone through many large changes in the last decade. Especially the collecting of ALL media outlets in the USA under one ownership. Mitt Romney owned a large part.

Everyone can scream as loud as they want. Unless everyone communicates at the same spot, unlikely.

The end result is people like you feeling like there must be an error if no one else is reporting it. They could be, we just don't hear them.

How long your claims last will be an indication. Unless you find an obvious, simple answer.

Basically saying, our conversation could be filtered out of the network where other astronomers are at.

Network filtering can be very effective if done right and have the processing power.
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Mods, ...

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But something about this picture I took isn't adding up...
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I'm consistently coming back to a distance of about 35 arcminutes for Polaris from the north celestial pole. That ain't right. It should be just shy of 41 arcminutes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well, it's quite clear to me that you've travelled forward in time to 2039... Got any hot stock tips?

Not sure where you're going with this...


R.
 Quoting: Reality420 24847476


Might be onto something there. Must have fallen through a time vortex and then fell back as I banged my head on the keyboard last night when analyzing the images. Swear to god that is the last time I use that pathetic camera tripod for anything like this.
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Maybe people are tired of the public stroking Astro gets every time he posts something? You all don't have a clue who "Dr" Astro is, or many of the other "people" found here on GLP....fact is you're all in for a rude awakening
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Thank you, Morgan Freeman.
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He's not claiming earth is off kilter. He's saying that he noticed a slight discrepancy between a predicted value and what he recorded.
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Really?
 Quoting: DUCM900


Yes, Really. Give it rest ffs.
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Mods, please forgive my cross-posting this from the other thread, but I believe this anomaly deserves its own thread until resolved. Updates will be forthcoming.

While testing the rather silly claim that the constellation Orion moved out of place, I found that Orion was where it should be, but the offset from Polaris to the north celestial pole appears to be off from the expected value by about 6 arcminutes. This may be due to flexure or settling in the flimsy camera tripod, but the only way to know will be to repeat this measurement telescopically. Further posts will detail repeated measurements starting tomorrow if weather allows.

It's been over an hour. Either the shit hit the fan or he fell asleep. Like I should be doing. Or, maybe he is on the phone with NASA. Got to get past pressing 1 a dozen times before you can choose English to proceed. Then there's a ton of red tape to fight your way through which sends you to the janitor. After you convince him he doesn't need to sweep away and hide any dirt, you get a security. need to convince him you arent on GLP by talking about the latest on Fox news, then you get a scientist. When you convince him you aren't asking about Nibiru he may answer.

These things take time.
 Quoting: Serendipitous


It's probably gonna take a while. When he makes a video, he spends a good amount of time on it.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Not making a video. Somethings not adding up on the axial rotation measurement (and you all thought I was a "shill" - I'm honest, even when it's very likely nothing at all). Tonight I took a shortcut and just used my SLR with telephoto lens on a tripod rather than hauling out the whole telescope. I also only had a few minutes of a gap between clouds and then it was clouded up completely. But something about this picture I took isn't adding up...
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I'm consistently coming back to a distance of about 35 arcminutes for Polaris from the north celestial pole. That ain't right. It should be just shy of 41 arcminutes. Now, I've never calibrated this lens astrometrically before tonight, but I used the Polaris image itself as well as an earlier image I shot a few months back and they both resulted in about the same image scale of about 8.2 arcseconds per pixel at the resolution I'm using for analysis. Maybe I screwed my math up somewhere along the way, I'm running on very little sleep and I need to get some now if I'm every going to.

For the sake of sanity in the thread and so that people don't start killing themselves before I can solve this mystery, I've never tried to use my SLR camera by itself for this particular measurement before (I've always used my telescopes with the SLR catching the light at prime focus) and the 300mm telephoto lens I have is rather heavy. I'm thinking something settled or flexed on my camera tripod over the 8 minute exposure, causing the star trails to be artificially shifted by about 6 arcminutes (and for what it's worth, that's a small angle, one fifth the diameter of the moon's disc, it's not something Bubba in his trailer is going to notice just by casually looking and comparing by eye to a mountain range).

The telescopes I normally use are much beefier and sturdier. I'll repeat the measurement telescopically tomorrow. If telescopic measurement confirms it... I'll probably take a sniper bullet in the head because there's no way that kind of change could be kept secret without a mass assassination of every person like me.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


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dont you love how this prick beats up everyone who says the earth, etc. is off kilter and now he does it.

skull_fing
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Dr. Astro is simply a guy who does it his way. Although, I'll spit my coffee if he should ever announce (whispers) planet you-know-what.

Anyway, what's 6 arcminutes? It's nothing, right?
 Quoting: Nexus-9


IF its real, no its not nothing...

its the movement of axis in just some days not hudreds or thousants of years

its the start of a very fast increasing pole shift..

*IF* astro is right, and its not only a little miscalculation
of data between his camera tripod and the telescope
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January? By now somebody should had realized something was really going on.

It must be some error Astro... I can't find any other logical explanation.
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I wrote 1% but its a very optimistic.

However those 0.01% what can do? maybe going to Larry King show? cmon...
 Quoting: DUCM900


Maybe discussing the issue all over the net?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29142558


And in astronomy clubs, and at star parties, and in astronomy neighborhoods, etc, etc.
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BTW, 5-8 degrees is the threshold for many to notice a change in angle. Put another way, most people can not see a 1 degree change and assume no change.

As if the Moon shifted by 1 degree, it would be unnoticed by casual eye.

Noting 6 arch minutes is getting close to the eye/minds ability to notice a change with out a lot of doubt.
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Mods, ...

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But something about this picture I took isn't adding up...
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I'm consistently coming back to a distance of about 35 arcminutes for Polaris from the north celestial pole. That ain't right. It should be just shy of 41 arcminutes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well, it's quite clear to me that you've travelled forward in time to 2039... Got any hot stock tips?

Not sure where you're going with this...


R.
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Might be onto something there. Must have fallen through a time vortex and then fell back as I banged my head on the keyboard last night when analyzing the images. Swear to god that is the last time I use that pathetic camera tripod for anything like this.
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Just as I suspected, blame the tripod
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When was the last time you checked the measurement and it was correct?

If Polaris actually IS 6 arcminutes off, then you could roughly guesstimate how the time it took.
 Quoting: CalmShock

Last time I checked was January, but something like this would not be able to remain hidden for long before amateurs would either find it and mention it, or entire astronomy neighborhoods get wiped out. Last I checked the guys at Arizona sky village and chiefland astronomy village didn't all suddenly drop dead.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


JANUARY!! You mean for the last eleven months youve been saying that everything is as it should be, and now you're telling us that the spring
sun arriving early could indeed be possible? Fuck me gently!!
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dont you love how this prick beats up everyone who says the earth, etc. is off kilter and now he does it.

skull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246336


Is it...

a) HYPOCRISY
b) IRONY
c) KARMA
d) ALL OF THE ABOVE

Thread: Are these all connected????

chuckle



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Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 12/06/2012 10:46 AM
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Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
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Definitely should be pinned given the OP's reputation here.
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he's an asscan.
stfu
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And your a troll!

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