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DUCM900 User ID: 29277208 Italy 12/07/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the moral of the story, don't use a cheap camera tripod with a heavy SLR camera Quoting: Dr. Astro No, moral of the story is you check and recheck something twice before you post a thread. If I find out that water is boiling at 150 C I don't post that laws of physics may be changing, I just pick another thermometer and measure it again. Then I guess you missed the point of this thread, to show that you should always look for problems in methodology, don't just trust dodgy evidence, check it, see if it holds up to scrutiny. Quoting: Dr. Astro In other words you knew it's wrong you just wanted to prove a point and show how gullible people are. Got it This IMHO This thread can win the most stupid useless disinfo stuff. and most of the seems enjoy it - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/07/2012 12:24 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29155775 United Kingdom 12/07/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the moral of the story, don't use a cheap camera tripod with a heavy SLR camera Quoting: Dr. Astro No, moral of the story is you check and recheck something twice before you post a thread. If I find out that water is boiling at 150 C I don't post that laws of physics may be changing, I just pick another thermometer and measure it again. Then I guess you missed the point of this thread, to show that you should always look for problems in methodology, don't just trust dodgy evidence, check it, see if it holds up to scrutiny. Quoting: Dr. Astro In other words you knew it's wrong you just wanted to prove a point and show how gullible people are. Got it that's it, I think. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29275828 Canada 12/07/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking a look at the original post and claim by the guy in the first place somthing is glaringly obvious. The post was actually about the SOUTH POLE not being where it should be. He then went off on a rant which is unfortunate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29275828 A person also has to ask themselves why Astro went off on a rant about maybe but I'll check just to make sure which appears to me a bit of a smoke screen for the real prise here and thats now being overlooked. Who cares about the orion Belt at this stage of the game and the fact that Astro made the North Star the center of attention. Smoke Screen. The real prise is that the South Pole is out of whack as was pointed out in the post and that everybody has lost sight of. The South Pole being out is what will effect life on this planet. The rest of this shit is just that. A bunch of shit. If I didn't know any better this whole thing was created to simply cover up the real story here. The South Pole being that far out of alignment is a precursor to a Pole Shift. That was the point the guy was trying to make in the first place. Keep your eye on the ball everybody. Cause the rest of this shit is just that BULLSHIT. Go back and read the original post. This is a sideshow smoke show. What? The original post of this thread does not contain the word "south" at all. What are you talking about? He mentioned both. You go read the post. I don't see anything in his post about The North Star either. This whole thread of Astro's stinks like shit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29275828 Canada 12/07/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking a look at the original post and claim by the guy in the first place somthing is glaringly obvious. The post was actually about the SOUTH POLE not being where it should be. He then went off on a rant which is unfortunate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29275828 A person also has to ask themselves why Astro went off on a rant about maybe but I'll check just to make sure which appears to me a bit of a smoke screen for the real prise here and thats now being overlooked. Who cares about the orion Belt at this stage of the game and the fact that Astro made the North Star the center of attention. Smoke Screen. The real prise is that the South Pole is out of whack as was pointed out in the post and that everybody has lost sight of. The South Pole being out is what will effect life on this planet. The rest of this shit is just that. A bunch of shit. If I didn't know any better this whole thing was created to simply cover up the real story here. The South Pole being that far out of alignment is a precursor to a Pole Shift. That was the point the guy was trying to make in the first place. Keep your eye on the ball everybody. Cause the rest of this shit is just that BULLSHIT. Go back and read the original post. This is a sideshow smoke show. Oh, do explain how the south celestial pole can be out of whack without the north celestial pole also being out of whack. You either have no idea how the sky moves, or you're just trolling. He didn't say in his post CELESTIAL POLE OR POLES EITHER. He said EARTH"S POLES were out of whack. The Shit is really stinking now. |
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DUCM900 User ID: 29277208 Italy 12/07/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have enough time to read through the many pages added from the last post I read.. Quoting: Se7en You've just save your time... - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/07/2012 01:22 PM |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/07/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have enough time to read through the many pages added from the last post I read.. I checked the last couple pages, did astro come to a conclusion on this topic yet? Sorry for my laziness. (at work) Quoting: Se7en Yeah, it was just an equipment failure the first time, as suspected. Our axis of rotation is right where it should be. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/07/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking a look at the original post and claim by the guy in the first place somthing is glaringly obvious. The post was actually about the SOUTH POLE not being where it should be. He then went off on a rant which is unfortunate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29275828 A person also has to ask themselves why Astro went off on a rant about maybe but I'll check just to make sure which appears to me a bit of a smoke screen for the real prise here and thats now being overlooked. Who cares about the orion Belt at this stage of the game and the fact that Astro made the North Star the center of attention. Smoke Screen. The real prise is that the South Pole is out of whack as was pointed out in the post and that everybody has lost sight of. The South Pole being out is what will effect life on this planet. The rest of this shit is just that. A bunch of shit. If I didn't know any better this whole thing was created to simply cover up the real story here. The South Pole being that far out of alignment is a precursor to a Pole Shift. That was the point the guy was trying to make in the first place. Keep your eye on the ball everybody. Cause the rest of this shit is just that BULLSHIT. Go back and read the original post. This is a sideshow smoke show. Oh, do explain how the south celestial pole can be out of whack without the north celestial pole also being out of whack. You either have no idea how the sky moves, or you're just trolling. He didn't say in his post CELESTIAL POLE OR POLES EITHER. He said EARTH"S POLES were out of whack. The Shit is really stinking now. Wow, you really don't understand astronomy. I would ask you if you even know what the celestial poles correspond to, but it's already pretty clear that you don't. |
optimum judgment User ID: 24021617 United Kingdom 12/07/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking a look at the original post and claim by the guy in the first place somthing is glaringly obvious. The post was actually about the SOUTH POLE not being where it should be. He then went off on a rant which is unfortunate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29275828 A person also has to ask themselves why Astro went off on a rant about maybe but I'll check just to make sure which appears to me a bit of a smoke screen for the real prise here and thats now being overlooked. Who cares about the orion Belt at this stage of the game and the fact that Astro made the North Star the center of attention. Smoke Screen. The real prise is that the South Pole is out of whack as was pointed out in the post and that everybody has lost sight of. The South Pole being out is what will effect life on this planet. The rest of this shit is just that. A bunch of shit. If I didn't know any better this whole thing was created to simply cover up the real story here. The South Pole being that far out of alignment is a precursor to a Pole Shift. That was the point the guy was trying to make in the first place. Keep your eye on the ball everybody. Cause the rest of this shit is just that BULLSHIT. Go back and read the original post. This is a sideshow smoke show. Oh, do explain how the south celestial pole can be out of whack without the north celestial pole also being out of whack. You either have no idea how the sky moves, or you're just trolling. He didn't say in his post CELESTIAL POLE OR POLES EITHER. He said EARTH"S POLES were out of whack. The Shit is really stinking now. Wow, you really don't understand astronomy. I would ask you if you even know what the celestial poles correspond to, but it's already pretty clear that you don't. Is it the star/stars the earth's poles point to at any one time ..as it depends on the precession, which ones we will point to? |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/07/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the moral of the story, don't use a cheap camera tripod with a heavy SLR camera Quoting: Dr. Astro No, moral of the story is you check and recheck something twice before you post a thread. If I find out that water is boiling at 150 C I don't post that laws of physics may be changing, I just pick another thermometer and measure it again. Then I guess you missed the point of this thread, to show that you should always look for problems in methodology, don't just trust dodgy evidence, check it, see if it holds up to scrutiny. Quoting: Dr. Astro In other words you knew it's wrong you just wanted to prove a point and show how gullible people are. Got it You have missed the entire point of the thread. People like you always think they "know" things just based on their assumptions. That's not how it works in science. I assumed it was my equipment, and I had good reason to think so, but that is not the same as "knowing" it. Also, what you don't seem to understand is that I told people I was going to "measure the boiling point" before I measured it. I had no idea going into it that my "thermometer" was going to yield a wrong answer. I had three choices at that point; pretend like I never said I was going to do it or post half of what I did and hope no one noticed the lie by omission, outright lie and produce false data, or simply tell the truth and explain what I think is wrong. At that point I don't "know" that it's wrong, I haven't done the work necessary to truly "know" for sure. Now I do, hence this thread. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/07/2012 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Oh, do explain how the south celestial pole can be out of whack without the north celestial pole also being out of whack. You either have no idea how the sky moves, or you're just trolling. He didn't say in his post CELESTIAL POLE OR POLES EITHER. He said EARTH"S POLES were out of whack. The Shit is really stinking now. Wow, you really don't understand astronomy. I would ask you if you even know what the celestial poles correspond to, but it's already pretty clear that you don't. Is it the star/stars the earth's poles point to at any one time ..as it depends on the precession, which ones we will point to? It's no particular star, it's our axis of rotation projected out onto the sky. Those points on the celestial sphere are the celestial poles, and because they correspond directly to our axis of rotation, it does indeed depend on precession. |
Menow User ID: 1394150 United States 12/07/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the moral of the story, don't use a cheap camera tripod with a heavy SLR camera Quoting: Dr. Astro No, moral of the story is you check and recheck something twice before you post a thread. You're saying this on GLP???? BWAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAA.A.A.A.A...A..A...AAAA!!!! If I find out that water is boiling at 150 C I don't post that laws of physics may be changing, I just pick another thermometer and measure it again. Quoting: 444 24172209 Then I guess you missed the point of this thread, to show that you should always look for problems in methodology, don't just trust dodgy evidence, check it, see if it holds up to scrutiny. Quoting: Dr. Astro In other words you knew it's wrong you just wanted to prove a point and show how gullible people are. Got it Like that is not a valid point to ever make? Right... |
Menow User ID: 1394150 United States 12/07/2012 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking a look at the original post and claim by the guy in the first place somthing is glaringly obvious. The post was actually about the SOUTH POLE not being where it should be. He then went off on a rant which is unfortunate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29275828 A person also has to ask themselves why Astro went off on a rant about maybe but I'll check just to make sure which appears to me a bit of a smoke screen for the real prise here and thats now being overlooked. Who cares about the orion Belt at this stage of the game and the fact that Astro made the North Star the center of attention. Smoke Screen. The real prise is that the South Pole is out of whack as was pointed out in the post and that everybody has lost sight of. The South Pole being out is what will effect life on this planet. The rest of this shit is just that. A bunch of shit. If I didn't know any better this whole thing was created to simply cover up the real story here. The South Pole being that far out of alignment is a precursor to a Pole Shift. That was the point the guy was trying to make in the first place. Keep your eye on the ball everybody. Cause the rest of this shit is just that BULLSHIT. Go back and read the original post. This is a sideshow smoke show. What? The original post of this thread does not contain the word "south" at all. What are you talking about? He mentioned both. You go read the post. I don't see anything in his post about The North Star either. This whole thread of Astro's stinks like shit. I DID read the post. What about "The original post of this thread does not contain the word "south" at all", do you not accept or understand? The word "Polaris" appears 3 times in the original post. You don't understand that Polaris is the north star? |
Se7en User ID: 1679139 12/07/2012 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have enough time to read through the many pages added from the last post I read.. I checked the last couple pages, did astro come to a conclusion on this topic yet? Sorry for my laziness. (at work) Quoting: Se7en Yeah, it was just an equipment failure the first time, as suspected. Our axis of rotation is right where it should be. That's a relief. Thanks for being up front about the whole incident with us. Not many people appreciate it, but some of us do, I hope you never stop doing this for us. Thanks again. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 12/07/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro - did you fix this problem with Orion yet? Followed to like page 10 but don't want to wade through the rest. Quoting: phizzycyst Yeah, it's fixed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Last Edited by Astromut on 12/07/2012 03:08 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9266723 United States 12/07/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro - did you fix this problem with Orion yet? Followed to like page 10 but don't want to wade through the rest. Quoting: phizzycyst Yeah, it's fixed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Beat me too it :p |
phizzycyst User ID: 1445469 United States 12/07/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro - did you fix this problem with Orion yet? Followed to like page 10 but don't want to wade through the rest. Quoting: phizzycyst Yeah, it's fixed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thanks...what would we do without you! That problem could have gotten bad if not for your prompt action! |
Reality420 User ID: 24847476 United States 12/07/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro - did you fix this problem with Orion yet? Followed to like page 10 but don't want to wade through the rest. Quoting: phizzycyst Yeah, it's fixed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Well, this turned out much better than I had expected. There appears to be a considerable contingent of sane people on GLP. But there is always the large herd of loonies who you've wound up for our amusement. And they're putting on an excellent show. I particularly like the sod who must think the earth is shaped like a banana with both ends rotating so as to have the north and south poles independent of each other. Good stuff. I've been known to post an 'anomaly' thread or two myself, however mine were to intentionally wind the kOOks up to make a point: Thread: NASA tracking HUGE Object. 19 Jan. Close Approach. MOID <0.000042 AU Made to combat the virtual frenzy the trolls and droolers were engaged in over TU24 and its MOID even though it had been explained dozens of times by multiple posters. Sometimes you have to hit them with a plank. Welcome back to the fray. Have fun. R. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28683220 United States 12/07/2012 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Dr. Astro a poster known for his thorough and accurate postings? I'm not familiar with his reputation here. Quoting: itsamadmadworld Anyone? he's called a shill for telling the truth most of the time... he's no nonsense and his posts are as good as any valid source out there... he spends time proving the insane to be... the insane... if he says something is fucked up... then you can bet... its fucked up... very very very credible Are you wagging your tail, too, while saying all this? |
SC User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 12/07/2012 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It appears that all is right with the world. I found Polaris to be 835.7 pixels from the north celestial pole: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to i319.photobucket.com] Previous astrometric calibration with this telescope and camera show that it has a resolution of 2.93 arcseconds per pixel: [link to www.flickr.com] Given that Polaris' declination after accounting for precession is 89d 19' 09.8", it should have been 2,450.2 arcseconds from the north celestial pole. 835.7*2.93 = 2448.601 for a difference of 1.599, less than the resolution of this telescope/camera combo and meaning that the NCP was exactly where it should have been in the image (I used my widefield refractor; had I used the main telescope Polaris would have been outside of the field of view and I would have had to measure off something else, leaving a question as to whether or not Polaris itself had mysteriously warped somewhere else). Here's the raw photograph from which the measurements were made. I used PixInsight dynamic background subtraction in the above version to subtract out some of the light pollution: [link to i319.photobucket.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28683220 United States 12/07/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theory as to why we are experiencing severe environmental change. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28246584 Oil is the earth’s natural coolant. Therefore, extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust warmer. Warmer earth’s crust makes the oceans warmer. Warmer oceans, causes severe hurricanes/cyclones, and thunderstorms. Oil is a substance that balances the earth’s crust. Extraction of oil makes the earth’s crust unbalanced. Unbalanced earth’s crust causes severe earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanos. Oil extraction is also the reason why earth is off it's orbit (whether NASA confirms it or not, we are. There is too much evidence). STOP people from getting oil out of our planet. Oil is meant to stay underground. We simply do not need to extract oil, in order to survive. The indigenous populations the world over, survived without extracting oil. We CAN live without ruining the planet. If we continue extracting oil, we will have NO planet. Boycott all oil. Rise up and STOP them getting oil out of the earth. It’s time to forget about money and luxuries. Be virtuous. Do what’s right. Please send this to all govts around the world as well as mainstream media. Also share this on Facebook, Twitter and other media outlets. I have always wondered whether oil had an impact on the earths crust, but never heard anyone talking about it. You should check out the Bezerk thread... Thread: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12774950 Canada 12/08/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It appears that all is right with the world. I found Polaris to be 835.7 pixels from the north celestial pole: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to i319.photobucket.com] Previous astrometric calibration with this telescope and camera show that it has a resolution of 2.93 arcseconds per pixel: [link to www.flickr.com] Given that Polaris' declination after accounting for precession is 89d 19' 09.8", it should have been 2,450.2 arcseconds from the north celestial pole. 835.7*2.93 = 2448.601 for a difference of 1.599, less than the resolution of this telescope/camera combo and meaning that the NCP was exactly where it should have been in the image (I used my widefield refractor; had I used the main telescope Polaris would have been outside of the field of view and I would have had to measure off something else, leaving a question as to whether or not Polaris itself had mysteriously warped somewhere else). Here's the raw photograph from which the measurements were made. I used PixInsight dynamic background subtraction in the above version to subtract out some of the light pollution: [link to i319.photobucket.com] |