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BERLUSCONI'S REVENGE:UPDATE: Monti Government Has Run Its Course, Pier Luigi Bersani, head of Democratic Party Tells President!!!

 
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PDL ABSTENTION IN VOTE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN MONTI'S GOVERNMENT
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes, but Monti will know that there is no majority.
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PDL ABSTENTION IN VOTE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN MONTI'S GOVERNMENT
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes, but Monti will know that there is no majority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


Who would most likely replace him? Some pro-Euro party, is there any?
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PDL ABSTENTION IN VOTE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN MONTI'S GOVERNMENT
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes, but Monti will know that there is no majority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


gov will only fall if there is any voting against gov standing or if PM resigns right?
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PDL ABSTENTION IN VOTE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN MONTI'S GOVERNMENT
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes, but Monti will know that there is no majority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


PDL was the main ally of Monti government.
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PDL ABSTENTION IN VOTE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN MONTI'S GOVERNMENT
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes, but Monti will know that there is no majority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


PDL was the main ally of Monti government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


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PDL ABSTENTION IN VOTE WOULD NOT BRING DOWN MONTI'S GOVERNMENT
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes, but Monti will know that there is no majority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


gov will only fall if there is any voting against gov standing or if PM resigns right?
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes, if the vote of confidence in this chamber will pass, Monti will not be required to resigns, but probabily he will resings anyway, because he will know that he can not survive.
If this vote will not pass, Monti MUST resigns.
An abstention in the "Camera" (this chamber) will lower the quorum for the vote, instead in "Senato" an abstention = NO.
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Re: BERLUSCONI'S REVENGE:UPDATE: Monti Government Has Run Its Course, Pier Luigi Bersani, head of Democratic Party Tells President!!!
President of the Republic Giorgio Napolitano: "The institutional holding of our country is out of the question and I have the duty to reaffirm publicly and I'm able to do it."

I have used Google Translator lol, sorry.
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Live-text, use google translator: [link to www.repubblica.it]
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President of the Republic Giorgio Napolitano: "The institutional holding of our country is out of the question and I have the duty to reaffirm publicly and I'm able to do it."

I have used Google Translator lol, sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


so... he will try to make a presidential new gov or announce new ellections?
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President of the Republic Giorgio Napolitano: "The institutional holding of our country is out of the question and I have the duty to reaffirm publicly and I'm able to do it."

I have used Google Translator lol, sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


so... he will try to make a presidential new gov or announce new ellections?
 Quoting: Luisport


I don't know.
More likely new elections... the President of Republic likes Monti gov, but he doesn't have power to bring it alive if gov has no majory in Parliament.
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President of the Republic Giorgio Napolitano: "The institutional holding of our country is out of the question and I have the duty to reaffirm publicly and I'm able to do it."

I have used Google Translator lol, sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


so... he will try to make a presidential new gov or announce new ellections?
 Quoting: Luisport


I don't know.
More likely new elections... the President of Republic likes Monti gov, but he doesn't have power to bring it alive if gov has no majory in Parliament.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29202244


majority*
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GERMAN 3-YEAR NOTE YIELD DROPS BELOW ZERO.
 Quoting: Luisport


People take this serious and flee to safety. Gold also up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29196058


Gold above 1700 again.
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12/06/2012 11:03 AM
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Re: BERLUSCONI'S REVENGE:UPDATE: Monti Government Has Run Its Course, Pier Luigi Bersani, head of Democratic Party Tells President!!!
There's no real solution to the current situation:

A) most don't like Monti (no progress under him)
B) most don't want Mr B back (setback)
C) just leave alone bringing back the communists (an even further setback)
D) huh? bring in a comedian (Beppe Grillo) (road to "unknown")

Although rather than A, B or C, D would be quite a ride although the lack of "appearing serious" would prevent him from getting to far I guess.

We are in REAL need of fresh blood, people like Ron Paul but in their late 40s..... the actual class of politicians appears to belong 101% to the same club of either being there due

-to family ties
-to favours granted
-business ties with the "powerfull"
-to having "bought" their seat
-"rewards" to pleasures granted to somebody
-just keep their mouth shut
-avoid imprisonment
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12/06/2012 11:06 AM
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There's no real solution to the current situation:

A) most don't like Monti (no progress under him)
B) most don't want Mr B back (setback)
C) just leave alone bringing back the communists (an even further setback)
D) huh? bring in a comedian (Beppe Grillo) (road to "unknown")

 Quoting: pray_Italy 24578903


Italy Can’t Afford to Remain in Euro, Party Head Grillo Says

Italy can’t bear the cost of staying in the euro and the country should hold a referendum on whether to remain in Europe’s monetary union, the leader of the insurgent 5 Star Movement said.
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What now. Nothing happening?
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What now. Nothing happening?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29196058


PDL doesn't vote, but no resignation at the moment. Monti just say that he is in contact with President Napolitano, no other specifications.
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It's not wisely resolved to spend attention to the politicians. They won't help you if you and your wishes are not accompanied with an extra income for them.

The collapse as everything creates the personal who is worth to spend attention to. That is the people who really is able to solve problems at place. And this one will be the new "leaders".

Nevertheless besides my Augustiner Bräu Edelstoff, consumed in quiet an appealing temperature, the drama delivers a lot of fun. Thanks.
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italian political crisis is already a fact, despite monti's government or resignation, nothing will change in the near future
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BERLUSCONI'S REVENGE: Italian Market Dives, Yields Spike, Amid New Political Chaos [link to read.bi]
 Quoting: Luisport


The return of the shadow of Berlusconi, terrifies Mrs. Italy (cartoon) [link to virtualblognews.altervista.org]
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A Greek-Orthodox prophecy almost fulfilled.

Berlusconi is going to be the new Mussolini. Merkel is like Hitler, thus bye-bye E.U!

5a
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A Greek-Orthodox prophecy almost fulfilled.

Berlusconi is going to be the new Mussolini. Merkel is like Hitler, thus bye-bye E.U!

5a
 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 28770961


But this time Greece will join ur ranks. rolleyes
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italian political crisis is already a fact, despite monti's government or resignation, nothing will change in the near future
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28591925


bump
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1,2950!!!
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Italy Passes Law Barring Convicted Politicians From Office. So did everyone just quit?
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Italy Passes Law Barring Convicted Politicians From Office. So did everyone just quit?
 Quoting: Luisport


half at least

cruise
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It Really Looks Like Silvio Berlusconi Is Going To Run Again [link to read.bi]
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After months and months of dropping hints, Silvio Berlusconi has confirmed that yes, he will be running to be Prime Minister of Italy again.

According to reports in Italian press, Angelino Alfano, Secretary of the PDL, said "Berlusconi is on the field" and will lead the PDL at the next election in 2013.

Alfano also said that scheduled PDL primaries will no longer take place.

Earlier in the day, Berlusconi's PDL party had threatened to pull their support for Mario Monti's technocrat government, sending markets tumbling. “We can’t go on like this,” Berlusconi said yesterday in a statement saying he was considering running. “I can’t allow my country to precipitate in a recessionary spiral without end.”

Monti had been installed to lead Italy after Berlusconi quit in November 2011 following mass protests and financial chaos.


Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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stucked between a dwarf and a bankster.....what a nightmare tomato
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so any updates from Italy?
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pretty much stalled situation


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