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The IRS is an ILLEGAL institution - PROOF

 
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The ah ha moment is coming for alot of people right now. THe laws, their slavery, and justice, which stands for just-us.

As long as the farm kept us fat and happy, we were fine to go along with it, but it's clear now all that fattening up was to send us to the slaughter.
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Agree as I have read all the information online as the OP stated.

Now, what are the CITIZENS going to do about it?

STOP FILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And what do you think will happen if you do? the 16th amendament will be stricken from the record? Or, eventually the IRS will catch up to you and take your money or put you in jail. You have to know which battles to fight, the government is going to take your money one way or the other. The only difference is going to be where you are living when they finally do.
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The constitution states that "the Government shall not tax an individuals wages", bash


Which article? I am looking right now and i don't see those words. Not trying to be sarcastic, i really would like to know.
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Let’s take a look at the actual LAW that would have allowed the IRS to be formed…

Oh wait, there isn’t any!

lmao

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Is the Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) an organization within the U.S. Department of the Treasury?

Answer: No. The IRS is not an organization within the United States Department of the Treasury. The U.S. Department of the Treasury was organized by statutes now codified in Title 31 of the United States Code, abbreviated “31 U.S.C.” The only mention of the IRS anywhere in 31 U.S.C. §§ 301‑313 is an authorization for the President to appoint an Assistant General Counsel in the U.S. Department of the Treasury to be the Chief Counsel for the IRS. See 31 U.S.C. 301(f)(2).

At footnote 23 in the case of Chrysler Corp. v. Brown, 441 U.S. 281 (1979), the U.S. Supreme Court admitted that no organic Act for the IRS could be found, after they searched for such an Act all the way back to the Civil War, which ended in the year 1865 A.D. The Guarantee Clause in the U.S. Constitution guarantees the Rule of Law to all Americans (we are to be governed by Law and not by arbitrary bureaucrats). See Article IV, Section 4. Since there was no organic Act creating it, IRS is not a lawful organization.

Source: [link to www.supremelaw.org]

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If not an organization within the U.S. Department of the Treasury, then what exactly is the IRS?

Answer: The IRS appears to be a collection agency working for foreign banks and operating out of Puerto Rico under color of the Federal Alcohol Administration (“FAA”). But the FAA was promptly declared unconstitutional inside the 50 States by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of U.S. v. Constantine, 296 U.S. 287 (1935), because Prohibition had already been repealed.

Source: [link to www.supremelaw.org]

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In other words, there has been no act of Congress or Presidential Executive Order giving the IRS any authority to operate within the United States, and the only connection they seem to have to the government was somehow related to the (FAA) which was abolished in 1935.

So where exactly is our hard earned money going?

Answer: It’s going right back into the hands of the very foreign bankers that loaned the United States Money (That they simply printed) at a high interest rate.

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Excerpt from 'Dynasty of the Illuminati' Ebook available here:

[link to www28.zippyshare.com]


drevil
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good luck trying to stop them lol
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The constitution states that "the Government shall not tax an individuals wages", bash

Which article? I am looking right now and i don't see those words. Not trying to be sarcastic, i really would like to know.
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Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4

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The constitution states that "the Government shall not tax an individuals wages", bash

Which article? I am looking right now and i don't see those words. Not trying to be sarcastic, i really would like to know.
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Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4
 Quoting: mrclean


These two do not mean the same thing. Or am i still missing something.


The constitution states that "the Government shall not tax an individuals wages",

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4

(No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.) (Section in parentheses clarified by
the 16th Amendment.)
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Illegal institution...

So is Obamacare, but our nation (including the courts) don't seem to care.


We do not live in a free America anymore. Our government is a communist puppet.
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Why is it that there is more discussion on GLP about "Axial rotation measurement anomaly" than there is about the american constitution? I understand that not everyone on here is american and could care less but you would think some of the americans on here would be slightly interested.
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Why is it that there is more discussion on GLP about "Axial rotation measurement anomaly" than there is about the american constitution? I understand that not everyone on here is american and could care less but you would think some of the americans on here would be slightly interested.
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Maybe if I edit the title to say 'The Nobody proves IRS is illegal' they would care....
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great post OP. This is stuff that otherwise well meaning 501c3 churches WONT teach you about the life of certain rabble rouser.

* I am personally not awake or sin free enough to reject the concept of taxation. But I sure can tell evil implementations when I see them. Like that supreme court justice who could not codify what porn is, but "knew it when he saw it."
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great post OP. This is stuff that otherwise well meaning 501c3 churches WONT teach you about the life of certain rabble rouser.

* I am personally not awake or sin free enough to reject the concept of taxation. But I sure can tell evil implementations when I see them. Like that supreme court justice who could not codify what porn is, but "knew it when he saw it."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28878214


Totally agree. Most churches sold their soul for that 501c3, which is a fairytale in the first place....
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Does not matter if you have Proof all the people who complain just end up in jail and spending thousands to defend their position.
 Quoting: Arial721


I'm pretty sure my Great Grandparents came to this country to get away from ILLEGAL taxation and unjust laws.

If this information were PUBLIC knowledge people would STOP paying and FUNDING this ILLEGAL entity. The president, congress, their illegal goon squd (police) and the media are actively engaged in a TRAITOROUS FRAUD against the American Public.

Welcome to the New U.S.S.A.
 Quoting: mrclean


You have to understand human nature.
Those that start out insulting you will eventually start robbing you and if unopposed will eventually destroy you and bury you.
That's how it's always been done, the narcissists dont ever let go, they become bolder until their victims are fully destroyed and everything they had, is now property of the looter, and then any witnesses are also disposed of
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great post OP. This is stuff that otherwise well meaning 501c3 churches WONT teach you about the life of certain rabble rouser.

* I am personally not awake or sin free enough to reject the concept of taxation. But I sure can tell evil implementations when I see them. Like that supreme court justice who could not codify what porn is, but "knew it when he saw it."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28878214


Totally agree. Most churches sold their soul for that 501c3, which is a fairytale in the first place....
 Quoting: mrclean


I like you better when you post about this and not fake atheist murders...
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yup, a fucking lie.

just like everything in this evil system.
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Ron Paul's brother come out and said America has been
Bankrupt since 1933, a President has no control and it's the
Federal Reserve (whom America is owned by) that controls America.




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The IRS is simply a COLLECTION AGENGY for the PRIVATE federal reserve bank.

When you pay 'Federal Taxes', contrary to popular belief, you aren't 'helping the country'.

You are Lining the pockets of the following of the following banks with INTEREST money:

Most notably, the Rothschild Bank of London, the Warburg Bank, Chase Manhattan, Lehman Brothers Bank, Lazard Brothers of Paris.

[link to www.famguardian.org]

Foreign Bankers OWN the IRS institution and the Federal Reserve Bank.

They are NOT American Institutions. TRAITOR Woodrow Wilson SOLD our country in 1913.

YOU HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN WASHINGTON. THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

Any President or Congressman perpetrating this HOAX against the public is in CONTEMPT of the U.S. constitution.
 Quoting: mrclean


And of course, constitutionally the whole concept of a 'millionaires' tax is reprehensible, as is the concept that some need pay nothing.
In truth, the 'flat tax' is what was intended.
One thing for sure you dont hear anyone saying is how much of your own money are you allowed to keep, and as nobody goes there, the assumption and presumption is that you are entitled to keep none of your earnings for yourself what so ever, and that line of thinking is clear as crystal in the current tax debate.

If so called public servants can demand your property with no basis in law at the start, there is functionally nothing to stop them for taking everything, and they intend to, and are working on it at this very moment. THe whole fiscal clif deal is to get you used to being told you owe someone for expenditures you did not authorize, that you were not informed about and were in point of fact in the majority of instances misappropriated or otherwise fraudulently spent.
Until the public realizes that others cannot legitimately indebt another against his will or intent, nothing will change
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2763718


Does not matter if you have Proof all the people who complain just end up in jail and spending thousands to defend their position.
 Quoting: Arial721


I'm pretty sure my Great Grandparents came to this country to get away from ILLEGAL taxation and unjust laws.

If this information were PUBLIC knowledge people would STOP paying and FUNDING this ILLEGAL entity. The president, congress, their illegal goon squd (police) and the media are actively engaged in a TRAITOROUS FRAUD against the American Public.

Welcome to the New U.S.S.A.
 Quoting: mrclean


The only way to fix America is if every LEGAL CITIZEN stands up and fights back, our Government knows the power that "we the people" have, that is why the work so hard to "control" us and keep us under the thumb of Big Brother.

And, its not the U.S.S.A., it is "the New World Order". Just to be clear. RFID chips are going to start being implanted soon, there are already trial "uses" of RFID implants in new borns and families who were paid to participate.

People will do just about anything and endure just about anything if they can stay "comfortable". By the time they "ACT" on their plans, things will be so far gone that we may not even have a chance to fight it. Yet, people are still more worried about what happened on the last episode of "jersey shore" than what is really going on in Amerika. Land of the belief that we are free.
 Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR


Does not matter if you have Proof all the people who complain just end up in jail and spending thousands to defend their position.
 Quoting: Arial721


I'm pretty sure my Great Grandparents came to this country to get away from ILLEGAL taxation and unjust laws.

If this information were PUBLIC knowledge people would STOP paying and FUNDING this ILLEGAL entity. The president, congress, their illegal goon squd (police) and the media are actively engaged in a TRAITOROUS FRAUD against the American Public.

Welcome to the New U.S.S.A.
 Quoting: mrclean


You have to understand human nature.
Those that start out insulting you will eventually start robbing you and if unopposed will eventually destroy you and bury you.
That's how it's always been done, the narcissists dont ever let go, they become bolder until their victims are fully destroyed and everything they had, is now property of the looter, and then any witnesses are also disposed of
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


The trickery is in the definitions...


Black's Law Dictionary


look up person

I am not a person

Look up "income" as it is tied to business owners more than employees

Look up "wage"

not to be taxed


the CONgressional constituents are conning many and have perpetuated this ruse with most "presidents" outside of JFK who was murdered teying to rectify the fraud committed against all of us

CONgressional reps and senators are to be regulated and they have flipped the table, ignoring the will of the people and worst than that, the will of the Most High

They have been repeatedly rebuked by the Most High and they shall remit to the Most High everything they have looted and stolen...they believe since they have all the gold they will be rewarded...they are wrong

They will be indicted as millions starve or are blown apart by their lust for human blood and sorrow


So they shall be snared as they seek to ensanre many

Their underground preps will NOT serve them...in fact will become the tombs for these goliaths

One properly placed stone is all it takes

Fear not the size of the giant if the Most High is for you, the giant SHALL fall

and it will


They will not stop on their own accord as they are drunk with power and rhink they are gods...but they have fallen long ago

and they were not trustworthy with their positions

Liars, thieves, murderers...they have no respite from the all seeing and the all knowing...and regardless they think they are all aware...they shall understand they knew very little of what was to be known


They are traitors, rebellious from the beginning, so shall they be removed by their own actions attempted against all of us

Do not follow the walking dead into the abyss

The power they profess to have over the men and women and children is not real...it is codified BS to protect their lies

They are nothing, they do not exist, but like a holographic prison, they perform via control measures

programmed daily, many play along for their supposed 'comfort' until the slaughter of the fatted herd commences


Sheering the fleece from the fleece growers...


awaken NOW as time spirals down

The heat of this forge is increasing and shall ignite

forewarned is forearmed

FILL YOUR LAMPS WITH OIL

Do not be caught dry in the spirit.


Massive changes ahead

Do not fear these shadows of death, for death has been conquered regardless of the entrophy around... there is MUCH MORE TO MOST OF US THAN A PHYSICAL BODY...MUCH MORE



tap into your divine self, let divine will be manifest and watch the roaches scurry


MANifest NOW


divine will
active

removes all blockages

a harbinger to the harlots of power

The sepulchre of hell awaits your cloven hooves, and your superb timbrels...perhaps Hades desires a concert...


Let the waters of the earth baptise the men, women, and children of the Most High

Make ready, for baptism by fire
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NO IRS, no NWO

Everything that has been done to us has been funded by the Federal Reserve. It's all financed by them. Follow the money.
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Why is it that there is more discussion on GLP about "Axial rotation measurement anomaly" than there is about the american constitution? I understand that not everyone on here is american and could care less but you would think some of the americans on here would be slightly interested.
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Maybe if I edit the title to say 'The Nobody proves IRS is illegal' they would care....
 Quoting: mrclean


The reason, is because this is OLD NEWS, this has been generally public information since 1996 when a story about it was run on CNN.

NO ONE CARES as sad as that is, NO....ONE....CARES wtf

The american populace is to lazy to do anything about it, most of the population has been paying income tax in one form or the other since they got their first job, and seeing as you can't win this argument in any legal courtroom its a moot point. Kinda like saying texas is not legaly part of the USA.

The only real solution is to muster enough people to simultaneously withhold all their tax money and refuse to pay to overload the system. There is, in fact, several public record government disaster response scenarios that outline a course of action if people actually tried this.

Their reports state it as implausible due to most people having taxes automatically withdrawn form their checks and if they wished to do this the companies would have to support it and not withdraw the taxes or it would take a year or more for people to redo thier tax withholding documents and they would know it was coming. Unless you are going to start ramming planes, bulldozers, or other large vehicles into irs buildings as some have done, there isn't much point in even talking about it.


So that's why more people are interested in things they can at least imagine and extrapolate with rather than talk about an issue we all know the truth about but will never act on.
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The IRS is simply a COLLECTION AGENGY for the PRIVATE federal reserve bank.

When you pay 'Federal Taxes', contrary to popular belief, you aren't 'helping the country'.

You are Lining the pockets of the following of the following banks with INTEREST money:

Most notably, the Rothschild Bank of London, the Warburg Bank, Chase Manhattan, Lehman Brothers Bank, Lazard Brothers of Paris.

[link to www.famguardian.org]

Foreign Bankers OWN the IRS institution and the Federal Reserve Bank.

They are NOT American Institutions. TRAITOR Woodrow Wilson SOLD our country in 1913.

YOU HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN WASHINGTON. THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

Any President or Congressman perpetrating this HOAX against the public is in CONTEMPT of the U.S. constitution.
 Quoting: mrclean


And of course, constitutionally the whole concept of a 'millionaires' tax is reprehensible, as is the concept that some need pay nothing.
In truth, the 'flat tax' is what was intended.
One thing for sure you dont hear anyone saying is how much of your own money are you allowed to keep, and as nobody goes there, the assumption and presumption is that you are entitled to keep none of your earnings for yourself what so ever, and that line of thinking is clear as crystal in the current tax debate.

If so called public servants can demand your property with no basis in law at the start, there is functionally nothing to stop them for taking everything, and they intend to, and are working on it at this very moment. THe whole fiscal clif deal is to get you used to being told you owe someone for expenditures you did not authorize, that you were not informed about and were in point of fact in the majority of instances misappropriated or otherwise fraudulently spent.
Until the public realizes that others cannot legitimately indebt another against his will or intent, nothing will change
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2763718


Does not matter if you have Proof all the people who complain just end up in jail and spending thousands to defend their position.
 Quoting: Arial721


I'm pretty sure my Great Grandparents came to this country to get away from ILLEGAL taxation and unjust laws.

If this information were PUBLIC knowledge people would STOP paying and FUNDING this ILLEGAL entity. The president, congress, their illegal goon squd (police) and the media are actively engaged in a TRAITOROUS FRAUD against the American Public.

Welcome to the New U.S.S.A.
 Quoting: mrclean


The only way to fix America is if every LEGAL CITIZEN stands up and fights back, our Government knows the power that "we the people" have, that is why the work so hard to "control" us and keep us under the thumb of Big Brother.

And, its not the U.S.S.A., it is "the New World Order". Just to be clear. RFID chips are going to start being implanted soon, there are already trial "uses" of RFID implants in new borns and families who were paid to participate.

People will do just about anything and endure just about anything if they can stay "comfortable". By the time they "ACT" on their plans, things will be so far gone that we may not even have a chance to fight it. Yet, people are still more worried about what happened on the last episode of "jersey shore" than what is really going on in Amerika. Land of the belief that we are free.
 Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR


Does not matter if you have Proof all the people who complain just end up in jail and spending thousands to defend their position.
 Quoting: Arial721


I'm pretty sure my Great Grandparents came to this country to get away from ILLEGAL taxation and unjust laws.

If this information were PUBLIC knowledge people would STOP paying and FUNDING this ILLEGAL entity. The president, congress, their illegal goon squd (police) and the media are actively engaged in a TRAITOROUS FRAUD against the American Public.

Welcome to the New U.S.S.A.
 Quoting: mrclean


You have to understand human nature.
Those that start out insulting you will eventually start robbing you and if unopposed will eventually destroy you and bury you.
That's how it's always been done, the narcissists dont ever let go, they become bolder until their victims are fully destroyed and everything they had, is now property of the looter, and then any witnesses are also disposed of
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


The trickery is in the definitions...


Black's Law Dictionary


look up person

I am not a person

Look up "income" as it is tied to business owners more than employees

Look up "wage"

not to be taxed


the CONgressional constituents are conning many and have perpetuated this ruse with most "presidents" outside of JFK who was murdered teying to rectify the fraud committed against all of us

CONgressional reps and senators are to be regulated and they have flipped the table, ignoring the will of the people and worst than that, the will of the Most High

They have been repeatedly rebuked by the Most High and they shall remit to the Most High everything they have looted and stolen...they believe since they have all the gold they will be rewarded...they are wrong

They will be indicted as millions starve or are blown apart by their lust for human blood and sorrow


So they shall be snared as they seek to ensanre many

Their underground preps will NOT serve them...in fact will become the tombs for these goliaths

One properly placed stone is all it takes

Fear not the size of the giant if the Most High is for you, the giant SHALL fall

and it will


They will not stop on their own accord as they are drunk with power and rhink they are gods...but they have fallen long ago

and they were not trustworthy with their positions

Liars, thieves, murderers...they have no respite from the all seeing and the all knowing...and regardless they think they are all aware...they shall understand they knew very little of what was to be known


They are traitors, rebellious from the beginning, so shall they be removed by their own actions attempted against all of us

Do not follow the walking dead into the abyss

The power they profess to have over the men and women and children is not real...it is codified BS to protect their lies

They are nothing, they do not exist, but like a holographic prison, they perform via control measures

programmed daily, many play along for their supposed 'comfort' until the slaughter of the fatted herd commences


Sheering the fleece from the fleece growers...


awaken NOW as time spirals down

The heat of this forge is increasing and shall ignite

forewarned is forearmed

FILL YOUR LAMPS WITH OIL

Do not be caught dry in the spirit.


Massive changes ahead

Do not fear these shadows of death, for death has been conquered regardless of the entrophy around... there is MUCH MORE TO MOST OF US THAN A PHYSICAL BODY...MUCH MORE



tap into your divine self, let divine will be manifest and watch the roaches scurry


MANifest NOW


divine will
active

removes all blockages

a harbinger to the harlots of power

The sepulchre of hell awaits your cloven hooves, and your superb timbrels...perhaps Hades desires a concert...


Let the waters of the earth baptise the men, women, and children of the Most High

Make ready, for baptism by fire
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Proof....Freedom to Fascism....Aaron Russo R.I.P
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Proof....Freedom to Fascism....Aaron Russo R.I.P
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A video that should be shown in EVERY high school economics class EVERY DAY!
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What i saw on matrix TV years ago. There is no code in the IRS CODE BOOK that says you have to pay taxes.
One case brought to court on 4 counts of tax evasion, got off because of that one loop hole. The judge was pissed but couldnt do anything.
The IRS are notorius about collecting money any shape or form. I never minded because i always got a check at the end of the year, sometimes with interest.
Actually, when you think about it. It is a form of terrorism, If you dont pay we'll take your house, car,dog, cat pet canary ect. I still dont mind, cause i dont make a whole lot of $$. If they didnt collect taxes, where would roads, schools,ect come from.

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What i saw on matrix TV years ago. There is no code in the IRS CODE BOOK that says you have to pay taxes.
One case brought to court on 4 counts of tax evasion, got off because of that one loop hole. The judge was pissed but couldnt do anything.
The IRS are notorius about collecting money any shape or form. I never minded because i always got a check at the end of the year, sometimes with interest.
Actually, when you think about it. It is a form of terrorism, If you dont pay we'll take your house, car,dog, cat pet canary ect. I still dont mind, cause i dont make a whole lot of $$.
 Quoting: stars


It's this mentality that is the CAUSE OF ALL THIS CRAP.

Thanks for validating everything I said....



"It doesn't effect me so who cares" this is why we have no country, this why we are afraid of our neighbors, this is why we have so many pissed off people.

You sir...sockpuppetsheepsheepsheepsheepsockpuppet
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What i saw on matrix TV years ago. There is no code in the IRS CODE BOOK that says you have to pay taxes.
One case brought to court on 4 counts of tax evasion, got off because of that one loop hole. The judge was pissed but couldnt do anything.
The IRS are notorius about collecting money any shape or form. I never minded because i always got a check at the end of the year, sometimes with interest.
Actually, when you think about it. It is a form of terrorism, If you dont pay we'll take your house, car,dog, cat pet canary ect. I still dont mind, cause i dont make a whole lot of $$. If they didnt collect taxes, where would roads, schools,ect come from.
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Missing the point of the thread, friend. Your TAXES only go to the Federal Reserve Bank to pay the INTEREST on the Loan they made to the Treasury!

The Government NEVER sees a dime! All you are doing by paying Taxes is paying the Banks their Interest!
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The ah ha moment is coming for alot of people right now. THe laws, their slavery, and justice, which stands for just-us.

As long as the farm kept us fat and happy, we were fine to go along with it, but it's clear now all that fattening up was to send us to the slaughter.
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Well said
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What i saw on matrix TV years ago. There is no code in the IRS CODE BOOK that says you have to pay taxes.
One case brought to court on 4 counts of tax evasion, got off because of that one loop hole. The judge was pissed but couldnt do anything.
The IRS are notorius about collecting money any shape or form. I never minded because i always got a check at the end of the year, sometimes with interest.
Actually, when you think about it. It is a form of terrorism, If you dont pay we'll take your house, car,dog, cat pet canary ect. I still dont mind, cause i dont make a whole lot of $$. If they didnt collect taxes, where would roads, schools,ect come from.
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Missing the point of the thread, friend. Your TAXES only go to the Federal Reserve Bank to pay the INTEREST on the Loan they made to the Treasury!

The Government NEVER sees a dime! All you are doing by paying Taxes is paying the Banks their Interest!
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Also nearly all roads schoolds military etc are paid for by taxes other than your income tax, such as sales tax and gas tax.
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Agree as I have read all the information online as the OP stated.

Now, what are the CITIZENS going to do about it?

STOP FILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And what do you think will happen if you do? the 16th amendament will be stricken from the record? Or, eventually the IRS will catch up to you and take your money or put you in jail. You have to know which battles to fight, the government is going to take your money one way or the other. The only difference is going to be where you are living when they finally do.
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That's more true than you know.

The sheeple are going to do absolutely nothing about this situation. You can't count on them.

You are on your own with this problem.

So what can you do?

You can't change the System yourself.

The Sheeple will demonize you for even bringing the issue up, thanks to TPTB's propaganda programme.

The only thing you can legally do is to emancipate yourself from their System. Stop being their 'subject', and move your 'official' allegiance and your body to some other jurisdiction; to one that is friendlier to you.

As long as you are a citizen of the USSA, you will be subject to the King's annual ransom, even if you live overseas. The only way to legally end that bondage is to sever your official relationship with Big Brother.

Sad, but true, so get used to the idea.

To clarify, the ONLY legal way out of your slavery is to secede yourself from the USSA by becoming a citizen of another nation and giving up your USSA citizenship & passport.

Every other solution is illegal in the USSA, and likely to cause you a LOT of serious grief.

It suxxor, but that's the cold hard truth, so get over it already.

The idea of you changing the System is delusional, sorry.

This is the new paradigm in the Age of the NWO.

And it won't be easy or cheap, but it is very possible.

Do the research, and vote with your feet.

Peace

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If they didnt collect taxes, where would roads, schools,ect come from.
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I am probably in the same place as you are in the research of this. But I would offer that wrt to roads The Eisenhower interstate system was indeed funded by the income tax, which was an afterglow effect of the tax code that was created to fund wars. The rest was done through imminent domain.

The majority of right of way, bridgework, tunnels, system design, etc has been paid for many times over. The federal and state gasoline taxes fund the improvements and maintenance.

Your property taxes pay for the schools. Except in D.C. which actually spends more money per student than nearly any municipality in the nation. with some of the worst results.

The point of the tax code is and has always been having a funding mechanism for war. Hot wars, cold wars. Human secularist wars like: the war on poverty, the war on women, the war on drugs. Which have all pretty much been failures.

Einstein has a couple of great quotes: (para)

"The income tax is most difficult thing in the universe to figure out."

"You can not solve a problem with the same conciousness that created it"
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some people find it complicated but it's not. it's easy.

people say, we need money, but only central bank makes money.

bank says, i give you $1 but you have to pay me $2 back.

instantly you can never be out of debt and every $1 more makes it worse.

income tax goes nowhere but to that invented debt for money that doesn't even exist.

can never be paid back.

will eventually grow to take all your money every penny.

then you will be considered a true slave
instead of a "soft" slave like most are now.
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What i saw on matrix TV years ago. There is no code in the IRS CODE BOOK that says you have to pay taxes.
One case brought to court on 4 counts of tax evasion, got off because of that one loop hole. The judge was pissed but couldnt do anything.
The IRS are notorius about collecting money any shape or form. I never minded because i always got a check at the end of the year, sometimes with interest.
Actually, when you think about it. It is a form of terrorism, If you dont pay we'll take your house, car,dog, cat pet canary ect. I still dont mind, cause i dont make a whole lot of $$. If they didnt collect taxes, where would roads, schools,ect come from.
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Taxes are not going towards schools, roads or other municipal constructions, that's laughable. They go to the greedy bankers who print fiat currency from thin air that is debt as soon as it's created.

People who say just don't file, I don't understand your thinking. The reason I file is so I can get back some of the money they stole from me over the course of the year. The only way not have your money stolen is to run your own business and simply not pay any taxes.

Those of us that work for companies have federal income taxes along with here in Canada C.P.P deductions and E.I. Deductions waaaay before you even get your hands on your cheque. Not only that but, the beast system has it a little more streamlined now also, your employer's now want your banking info and a voided cheque so they can Direct Deposit the funds into your account. You are not even apart of the banking equation any longer.

I will know that the writing is clearly printed in blood on the wall before me when my world has gone to a CASHLESS system, and I don't think we are that far off.

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