The IRS is an ILLEGAL institution - PROOF

Yep, all money issued by the US Treasury is Lawful AND Constitutional money, and cannot be taxed because it is issued under Congress' power to "coin money and set the value there of".

Federal Reserve Notes are NOT money and are backed and issued only for those who pledge their goods, services, labor and even children to "back" the notes repayment to the FED.

You endorse the FEDs money, they OWN YOU, literally.

Demand lawful money per 12 USC 411 and tell them "NO" to their offers of fiat currency/DEBT.

It is good to see others spreading the good word of lawful money redemption.

all these glpeople TALK about how bad the FED is, then FULLY endorse the SYSTEM by not REDEEMING lawful money. simply PATHETIC.

True, people want to blame others for their own acts and ignorance.

Fact is, the FED would simply not have a customer base without consumers endorsing and using their product, like any business.

Nobody is forced to use Federal Reserve Notes when US Treasury notes are already in their pocket! All they need to do is make their demand public record on their endorsements and its over.

12 USC 411, its right there in black and white. too simple I guess.

Because it doesn't work.

Really? I do it, and it works, many others do as well.

The problem with all of this is simple, Federal Judges participating in an illegal system.

'Cause they will throw your ass in jail if you don't pay...

So how do you break that hold when Federal Judges will simply ignore any relevant precedent or lack of statutory law giving the IRS legal ability to enforce their rules that you put in front of them?!?!?

Because all Federal Judges know, if they try to overthrow this system, they're dead men walking...

this true

While that may be true, the fact is, the IRS will not and cannot prosecute anyone for redeeming money per 12 USC 411.

Please explain how a case can be brought against anyone for OBEYING THE LAW?

12 USC 411 is the Federal law, saying the IRS can (or will) file a case against someone for doing what is states as LAW is nonsense.

Please, get something better than illogical drama and flat out lies as your counter arguments for 12 USC 411.

But, keep bumping the thread!

A group of federal judges just won a case against the Federal Government for payment of contract agreements.

None of them have been killed, so that kind of ends that.

Demand is made for lawful money per 12 USC 411.

I have been doing it for nearly 6 years now, I have not had one issue doing it, nor any threats from the IRS...

Just wait they will make an example out of somebody soon. Do you remember Gordon Kahl?

I still am waiting for you or anyone to explain how they can do anything, since 12-USC 411 clearly spells out "...Federal reserve notes...shall be redeemed for lawful money on demand"

Just wait? For what? A case filed for demanding my money be redeemed?

And no, I do not know any Gordon Kahl, but I do know he was not demanding lawful money per 12 USC 411, so it is irrelevant to this thread.

Are you inciting people to stop filing?

Use federal reserve notes and incur an Irrecusable obligation. The puzzle is complete!!!
A Banksters defeatism (realization of defeat) nightmare, Being forced to Return to Real Money=United States Note=Lawful Money, Use the Remedy within the Federal Reserve Act. Redeemed 12USC411, Refusal Penalty 12USC501a [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] Stop being a Slave!!!!!! This is Tax Free Money!!!!!! [link to stormthunder.com]
Convincing Congress to Abolish the Fed [link to www.silverbearcafe.com]
Irrecusable obligation, which according to 'Bouvier's Law Dictionary' (1914 ed.), is "a term used to indicate a certain class of contractual obligations recognized by the law which are imposed upon a person without his consent and without regard to any act of his own." This is distinguished from a recusable obligation, which according to Bouvier, arises from a voluntary act by which one incurs the obligation imposed by the operation of law. The Income Tax succinctly described is an irrecusable obligation.
The obligation to make a return of income for using private credit is recognized in law as an irrecusable obligation. The voluntary use of private credit is the condition precedent, which imposes the irrecusable obligation to file a tax return. If private credit is not used or rejected, then the operation of law, which imposes the irrecusable obligation lies dormant and cannot apply.

This is the crux of the biscuit!

If this is true then why arn't we (the American tax payer) pressing charges of fraud against these bastards???

because the judges are corrupt and they'll just throw out the case

PISS ON THE IRS!!

13th Amendment.

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[2]

Fuck all Americans that want to steal from other Americans as well.

Frankly, you People, that support this, are not American.

In Selective Draft Law Cases, 245 U.S. 366 (1918), the Supreme Court ruled that the military draft was not "involuntary servitude".
No offenses against the Thirteenth Amendment have been prosecuted since 1947.[19][20]
Psychological coercion had been the primary means of forcing involuntary servitude in United States v. Ingalls, 73 F. Supp. 76, 77 (S.D. Cal. 1947).[21] However, in United States v. Kozminski, 487 U.S. 931 (1988), the Supreme Court ruled that the Thirteenth Amendment did not prohibit compulsion of servitude through psychological coercion.[22][23] Kozminski limited involuntary servitude to those situations when the master subjects the servant to:
threatened or actual physical force,
threatened or actual state-imposed legal coercion, or
fraud or deceit where the servant is a minor, an immigrant or mentally incompetent.
The Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000, P.L. 106-386, updated the federal anti-slavery statutes to include victims who are enslaved through psychological coercion, even if there was no physical coercion.[24][25] [link to en.wikipedia.org]