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Another view on the Burqa

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/06/2012 01:06 PM
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Another view on the Burqa
So everyone agrees that if a female is forced to wear a burqa that's oppressive and that's fine. But let's discuss the power a burqa gives to a person by making her(him) semi or fully anonymous (in the case of the niqab) and you can trick CCTV about your true identity.

So one can argue that it gives some women the power to be anonymous while spying on others that are not covered. That could have been true, if and only if wearing a burqa was voluntary and not forced like it is.

BTW, I bet most people wished sometimes that they could hide their identity while stalking others. Don't you wish you could see the others but they cannot see your face for a day? I really hate CCTV and I don't want to be photographed/filmed so is there any way to trick CCTV other than wearing a burqa?
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12/06/2012 01:16 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
I think the forceful wearing of burqas should be abolished, as they should be voluntary. What's more, they should be allowed in the Western countries and male versions should be allowed, too.

What if I want to preserve my anonymity from curious eyes? What if I hate CCTV which is a breach of privacy? What if I don't want my girlfriend to see me when going out with another girl? And what if I want to keep my identity secret from tattlers?
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12/06/2012 01:18 PM

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Re: Another view on the Burqa
Just wear a clown mask
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12/06/2012 01:18 PM

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Perfect way to sneak suicide bombs into a crowded market place...




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12/06/2012 01:20 PM

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Re: Another view on the Burqa
I think the forceful wearing of burqas should be abolished, as they should be voluntary. What's more, they should be allowed in the Western countries and male versions should be allowed, too.

What if I want to preserve my anonymity from curious eyes? What if I hate CCTV which is a breach of privacy? What if I don't want my girlfriend to see me when going out with another girl? And what if I want to keep my identity secret from tattlers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29206820


No woman that wasn't afraid of death would wear a burka...who the fuck wants to wear a potato sack out in public?
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12/06/2012 01:20 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
It is 7th century ; dark age oppression of a woman

that has no place in a modern society
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12/06/2012 01:21 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
and they have to wear them to keep the men from getting horny.
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12/06/2012 01:23 PM

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and they have to wear them to keep the men from getting horny.
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I got news for ya...men will always be horny no matter what.
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12/06/2012 01:27 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
Yes, it IS oppressive, but I think covering your face should be allowed in the Western world as long it is not forceful, but voluntary. What if a person wants to hide from the CCTV oppression and slavery? Should we just put up with being filmed while walking down the street and in supermarkets? Shoplifting and crimes haven't diminished at all since the introduction of CCTV.

A lot of Western women would actually make good use of face veil to their advantage if they had the chance, e.g. when going out with other men, when wanting to hide black spots/acne/etc, when going somewhere where their family shouldn't be able to recognize them. Every person has their little secrets, you know...

I agree that the forceful wearing should stop though! Everything should be voluntary.
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12/06/2012 01:29 PM

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Re: Another view on the Burqa
Yes, it IS oppressive, but I think covering your face should be allowed in the Western world as long it is not forceful, but voluntary. What if a person wants to hide from the CCTV oppression and slavery? Should we just put up with being filmed while walking down the street and in supermarkets? Shoplifting and crimes haven't diminished at all since the introduction of CCTV.

A lot of Western women would actually make good use of face veil to their advantage if they had the chance, e.g. when going out with other men, when wanting to hide black spots/acne/etc, when going somewhere where their family shouldn't be able to recognize them. Every person has their little secrets, you know...

I agree that the forceful wearing should stop though! Everything should be voluntary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29206820


Some people do hide their faces here, they're called thieves...

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12/06/2012 01:31 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
Yes, it IS oppressive, but I think covering your face should be allowed in the Western world as long it is not forceful, but voluntary.earing should stop though! Everything should be voluntary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29206820


What do you have to hide? Pimples?
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12/06/2012 01:32 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
There are far more reasons why a person would like to hide their face from onlookers:

- acne/spots, facial injuries etc.
- hatred of being surveyed by CCTV, Big Brother, etc.
- the right to anonymity
- hiding from exes, ex friends, enemies, neighbors you don't like to talk to
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12/06/2012 01:34 PM

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Re: Another view on the Burqa
There are far more reasons why a person would like to hide their face from onlookers:

- acne/spots, facial injuries etc.
- hatred of being surveyed by CCTV, Big Brother, etc.
- the right to anonymity
- hiding from exes, ex friends, enemies, neighbors you don't like to talk to
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29206820


- Fear of death from Muzzies...
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12/06/2012 01:36 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
its is likely are only weapon for the coming face scanners
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12/06/2012 01:36 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
There are far more reasons why a person would like to hide their face from onlookers:

- acne/spots, facial injuries etc.
- hatred of being surveyed by CCTV, Big Brother, etc.
- the right to anonymity
- hiding from exes, ex friends, enemies, neighbors you don't like to talk to
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29206820


Actually you have no "right to anonymity".

The state you live in and its laws provide you this special freedom.

Without laws it wouldn't exist...
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12/06/2012 01:36 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
its is likely are only weapon for the coming face scanners
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26278085


dammit.... that should be "our"
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12/06/2012 01:42 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
The state you live in and its laws provide you this special freedom.
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The state I live in should pay me that I'm still living in the sh*thole it is.

CCTV and surveillance is highly oppressive. I don't want to have photos/videos of me taken, isn't that alright with the world of today?

It's funny how shop owners scream when you start taking pictures of their goods and inventory with your mobile phone, while they are OK with their CCTV filming you.
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12/06/2012 01:45 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
Actually you have no "right to anonymity".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28992175

Well, if I have no right of anonymity and there's CCTV in virtually every store nowadays, why do they ban taking photos of their goods/products?

If I have no right of anonymity, why is taking photos banned in their stores/banks/schools/etc? It's not like they're some top secret army bases, right? They're public.
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12/06/2012 01:56 PM
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Re: Another view on the Burqa
What we need, OP, is a climate of respect for females so that they don't feel the need to hide behind a veil to escape the predatory looks and aggressive talk from men.
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