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Pilot Speaks Out About Chemtrails And HAARP

 
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No, that's evidence of a patent, that's not evidence that the trails have anything to do with the patent. Sorry!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


You didnt read it, have you? No, exactly as i thought, your just here to troll.

Same as the other loser AC 29077765.

First you ask evidence, which i gave you, then deny this evidence and use a straw men to try to not look at what it presented.

Ad hominem, appeal to authority, strawmen, it there any limitation to your mental discrepancies?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yes I have read it

And I even know what all those words mean.

Where is your hard evidence instead of giant leaps of faith coupled with people making shit up for "tests"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


Quote from the link [link to patft.uspto.gov]

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year.
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I don't know all the answers to all the questions being asked. I do know that I get tired of seeing all the back and forth on whether there are or not chemtrails. Read the House bill below that never went anywhere.


HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001

Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned


A BILL
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.
SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.
SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--
(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and
(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.
SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.
SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--
(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and
(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.
SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--
(1) space exploration;
(2) space research and development;
(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or
(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.
SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
 Quoting: Scared Shitless


So now chemtrails are being sprayed by plane at 60KM ?

1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


Yeah, funny how that part NEVER seems to matter...

Just like the backgrounds of the ones who actually wrote it, Webre and Rosin. And what they stand for...

And WHY they wrote it...

Chemtards just don't care about truth...
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No, that's evidence of a patent, that's not evidence that the trails have anything to do with the patent. Sorry!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


You didnt read it, have you? No, exactly as i thought, your just here to troll.

Same as the other loser AC 29077765.

First you ask evidence, which i gave you, then deny this evidence and use a straw men to try to not look at what it presented.

Ad hominem, appeal to authority, strawmen, it there any limitation to your mental discrepancies?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yes I have read it

And I even know what all those words mean.

Where is your hard evidence instead of giant leaps of faith coupled with people making shit up for "tests"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


Quote from the link [link to patft.uspto.gov]

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yeah?

So?

How does that show that the trails in the sky aren't contrails or have anything to o with the patent?!

Hint...it doesn't...unless one makes a bunch of stupid assumptions.


You assume it's what you see in the sky...when in reality, "contrails" easily explain what you see. You have no evidence that "the particles" are responsible for the trails.

You are jumping to conclusions...because you're a paranoid idiot.
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12/07/2012 09:56 PM
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I don't know all the answers to all the questions being asked. I do know that I get tired of seeing all the back and forth on whether there are or not chemtrails. Read the House bill below that never went anywhere.


HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001

Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned


A BILL
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.
SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.
SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--
(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and
(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.
SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.
SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--
(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and
(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.
SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--
(1) space exploration;
(2) space research and development;
(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or
(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.
SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
 Quoting: Scared Shitless


So now chemtrails are being sprayed by plane at 60KM ?

1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


Yeah, funny how that part NEVER seems to matter...

Just like the backgrounds of the ones who actually wrote it, Webre and Rosin. And what they stand for...

And WHY they wrote it...

Chemtards just don't care about truth...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038

I learned in elementary school in the '60s that calling somebody a retard or any kind of tard was pretty much a sign of immature ignorance so that anybody I see doing that today mostly behaves like a child regardless of their actual age.

this puts you in the newbie child category. you guys just can't break loose from this, can you?
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AC465 you should venture beyond the text book, you might understand contrails but you fail to understand there are also chemtrails.
You are telling people that they only believe in them because others think its credible..? That's what you're doing, except your saying chemtrails don't exist at all.

Clearly there are two sides to this, which is why there is conflict between chemtards, and tard-tards. Do you not believe what you see with your own eyes? What do you really rely on that you consider fact that completely discredits chemtrails.
School me on contrails, sure...condensation, always normal, right..
I can type you all of my credibility as well but its only as good as you saying you're representing professional aviation..

Also, what else do you come to godlike for, what else are you interested in on this forum?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4383319


Why venture beyond a text book when I have no reason to?! There isn't ANY evidence to suggest these trails are anything more than contrails.

I see NO evidence that "chemtrails" exist!

I don't give a shit about the other subjects on GLP. I didn't go to school for those subjects. I went to school for aviation. I know you people are spreading ignorant bs as truth. And in the process accusing innocent people of horrible things.

The truth is important to me. I don't give a shit if you can't understand that. I'm also not surprised. There are obviously many things you people are unable to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


Are you kidding me? You don't think that most posters here are also wanting the truth, and post just to be fucking stupid? Ofcourse there isn't proof of chemtrails that's why people always post topics about it and make it an actual subject. There has been enough information, speculation, theories, you name it, to even make it become a subject of discussion, regardless of where those asking understand or not.

Example... chemtrails aside from contrails, making the sky hazy when it should not be, especially after a cold front comes through. Contrails don't, and haven't before, made the sky hazy. That only happens when there is a visual difference in the trail left by whichever airliner. That's just one reason why people begin to notice a difference in the first place.

Anyway.. You are still not convincing anyone even though that is not your goal. I am not convincing anyone that there are chemtrails either. Obviously though, there is a difference in the two, whether or not you read about it in a text book in aviation school.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4383319


No, you people don't want truth. You want to jump to conclusion and make assumptions about your paranoid fantasy in an effort to recruit others into your pathetic cult of ignorance.

Contrails have always made the sky hazy. It just happens more often now because of the added flights, airports, air outer and high efficiency engines.

You chemtards like to assume that these things don't matter..you refuse to believe it, because it instantly kills the stupid fantasy.

And yes, you chemtards have actually recruited other gullible losers into your religion of stupidity.

Religion? Why?

Because ALL you have is faith...

Faith in your knowledge, the knowledge of your direct peers and faith in your belief that there is no way anyone is going to fool YOU. That's impossible... You know it's true...because you know it's true.

Religion at its finest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


That is definetly not the response I was expecting from you. There is no reason to be harsh, and it is very telling.
And lol at "you people don't want the truth"...You are by far the least credible poster in your arguments that you bring about to discuss, which throws you in the pile with the rest.
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You didnt read it, have you? No, exactly as i thought, your just here to troll.

Same as the other loser AC 29077765.

First you ask evidence, which i gave you, then deny this evidence and use a straw men to try to not look at what it presented.

Ad hominem, appeal to authority, strawmen, it there any limitation to your mental discrepancies?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yes I have read it

And I even know what all those words mean.

Where is your hard evidence instead of giant leaps of faith coupled with people making shit up for "tests"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


Quote from the link [link to patft.uspto.gov]

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yeah?

So?

How does that show that the trails in the sky aren't contrails or have anything to o with the patent?!

Hint...it doesn't...unless one makes a bunch of stupid assumptions.


You assume it's what you see in the sky...when in reality, "contrails" easily explain what you see. You have no evidence that "the particles" are responsible for the trails.

You are jumping to conclusions...because you're a paranoid idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038

dude, using the word paranoid just makes you a child newbie or also puts you in the trainee loser shill category. don't you learn? or don't your handlers pick up on this?
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This Groundhog Day theme is by its nature never going to come to a consensus outside of court.
I can only add that these persistent contrails do show oil-film colours when the Sun shines through it, some kind of fuelwaste I suppose and this contributes to airpollution.
When these oily constituents eventually fall on the ground, it's quite likely imo that all kinds of pollution elements, including floating viruses and fungusparticles become entrapped in the haze and reach the ground aswell.
And besides, planes do dump excess fuel on a regular basis and not only over the ocean I suspect.
Fact is that local pollution has risen sharply after flight corridors started to appear roughly 15 years ago, especially when planes circle around waiting to land.
Not so difficult to fathom this added, unhealthy pollution because of increased airtraffic !
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You didnt read it, have you? No, exactly as i thought, your just here to troll.

Same as the other loser AC 29077765.

First you ask evidence, which i gave you, then deny this evidence and use a straw men to try to not look at what it presented.

Ad hominem, appeal to authority, strawmen, it there any limitation to your mental discrepancies?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yes I have read it

And I even know what all those words mean.

Where is your hard evidence instead of giant leaps of faith coupled with people making shit up for "tests"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


Quote from the link [link to patft.uspto.gov]

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yeah?

So?

How does that show that the trails in the sky aren't contrails or have anything to o with the patent?!

Hint...it doesn't...unless one makes a bunch of stupid assumptions.


You assume it's what you see in the sky...when in reality, "contrails" easily explain what you see. You have no evidence that "the particles" are responsible for the trails.

You are jumping to conclusions...because you're a paranoid idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


Yea, right, whatever

You dont want to look at the proof, and to try to mask the fact you got served, you start attacking my person, ad hominem as last resort.

skull_fing
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No, that's evidence of a patent, that's not evidence that the trails have anything to do with the patent. Sorry!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


You didnt read it, have you? No, exactly as i thought, your just here to troll.

Same as the other loser AC 29077765.

First you ask evidence, which i gave you, then deny this evidence and use a straw men to try to not look at what it presented.

Ad hominem, appeal to authority, strawmen, it there any limitation to your mental discrepancies?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Oh, please.....765, l45, 038 are all same poster. The definition of bullshit.
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If you don't think governments are capable of spraying deadly chemicals over the population then please read this

[link to www.wiseupjournal.com]

The British government has actually admitted to doing it in the past.

"

In another chapter, ‘Large Area Coverage Trials’, the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.
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Why venture beyond a text book when I have no reason to?! There isn't ANY evidence to suggest these trails are anything more than contrails.

I see NO evidence that "chemtrails" exist!

I don't give a shit about the other subjects on GLP. I didn't go to school for those subjects. I went to school for aviation. I know you people are spreading ignorant bs as truth. And in the process accusing innocent people of horrible things.

The truth is important to me. I don't give a shit if you can't understand that. I'm also not surprised. There are obviously many things you people are unable to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


Are you kidding me? You don't think that most posters here are also wanting the truth, and post just to be fucking stupid? Ofcourse there isn't proof of chemtrails that's why people always post topics about it and make it an actual subject. There has been enough information, speculation, theories, you name it, to even make it become a subject of discussion, regardless of where those asking understand or not.

Example... chemtrails aside from contrails, making the sky hazy when it should not be, especially after a cold front comes through. Contrails don't, and haven't before, made the sky hazy. That only happens when there is a visual difference in the trail left by whichever airliner. That's just one reason why people begin to notice a difference in the first place.

Anyway.. You are still not convincing anyone even though that is not your goal. I am not convincing anyone that there are chemtrails either. Obviously though, there is a difference in the two, whether or not you read about it in a text book in aviation school.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4383319


No, you people don't want truth. You want to jump to conclusion and make assumptions about your paranoid fantasy in an effort to recruit others into your pathetic cult of ignorance.

Contrails have always made the sky hazy. It just happens more often now because of the added flights, airports, air outer and high efficiency engines.

You chemtards like to assume that these things don't matter..you refuse to believe it, because it instantly kills the stupid fantasy.

And yes, you chemtards have actually recruited other gullible losers into your religion of stupidity.

Religion? Why?

Because ALL you have is faith...

Faith in your knowledge, the knowledge of your direct peers and faith in your belief that there is no way anyone is going to fool YOU. That's impossible... You know it's true...because you know it's true.

Religion at its finest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


That is definetly not the response I was expecting from you. There is no reason to be harsh, and it is very telling.
And lol at "you people don't want the truth"...You are by far the least credible poster in your arguments that you bring about to discuss, which throws you in the pile with the rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4383319


Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
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#145 = 465
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The usual shill suspects are here I see, Govt. House you here?? Of course No Balls is here, The Goof?? You here?? Haven't seen Snakeshit Airhead in some time. I miss anyone??
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Yes I have read it

And I even know what all those words mean.

Where is your hard evidence instead of giant leaps of faith coupled with people making shit up for "tests"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


Quote from the link [link to patft.uspto.gov]

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


Yeah?

So?

How does that show that the trails in the sky aren't contrails or have anything to o with the patent?!

Hint...it doesn't...unless one makes a bunch of stupid assumptions.


You assume it's what you see in the sky...when in reality, "contrails" easily explain what you see. You have no evidence that "the particles" are responsible for the trails.

You are jumping to conclusions...because you're a paranoid idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038

dude, using the word paranoid just makes you a child newbie or also puts you in the trainee loser shill category. don't you learn? or don't your handlers pick up on this?
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i see the sr. airman at macdill finally stepped in and told the jrs. to cool it. they'd been had...
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If you don't think governments are capable of spraying deadly chemicals over the population then please read this

[link to www.wiseupjournal.com]

The British government has actually admitted to doing it in the past.

"

In another chapter, ‘Large Area Coverage Trials’, the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.
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Who says governments aren't capable of such things?!

That still isn't evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Bringing up tests in the past is NOT evidence that the trails we see in the sky, anywhere, are anything but contrails.

Did the above incident ever result in visible trails?!

How do you know the planes which are NOT leaving any trails aren't "spraying" us?!


You fucking don't.


There are thousands of people participating in hundreds of environmental science programs in the world, from hundreds of universities, and private citizens, and since none of them report finding anything...they must all be in on it...


Fucking moron...
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Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Served again, its becoming damn ridicules when you open your mouth.
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The usual shill suspects are here I see, Govt. House you here?? Of course No Balls is here, The Goof?? You here?? Haven't seen Snakeshit Airhead in some time. I miss anyone??
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Your mom blows horses...and swallows.
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Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Served again, its becoming damn ridicules when you open your mouth.
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So?!

It's a chemtard article...nothing more.
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Are you kidding me? You don't think that most posters here are also wanting the truth, and post just to be fucking stupid? Ofcourse there isn't proof of chemtrails that's why people always post topics about it and make it an actual subject. There has been enough information, speculation, theories, you name it, to even make it become a subject of discussion, regardless of where those asking understand or not.

Example... chemtrails aside from contrails, making the sky hazy when it should not be, especially after a cold front comes through. Contrails don't, and haven't before, made the sky hazy. That only happens when there is a visual difference in the trail left by whichever airliner. That's just one reason why people begin to notice a difference in the first place.

Anyway.. You are still not convincing anyone even though that is not your goal. I am not convincing anyone that there are chemtrails either. Obviously though, there is a difference in the two, whether or not you read about it in a text book in aviation school.
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No, you people don't want truth. You want to jump to conclusion and make assumptions about your paranoid fantasy in an effort to recruit others into your pathetic cult of ignorance.

Contrails have always made the sky hazy. It just happens more often now because of the added flights, airports, air outer and high efficiency engines.

You chemtards like to assume that these things don't matter..you refuse to believe it, because it instantly kills the stupid fantasy.

And yes, you chemtards have actually recruited other gullible losers into your religion of stupidity.

Religion? Why?

Because ALL you have is faith...

Faith in your knowledge, the knowledge of your direct peers and faith in your belief that there is no way anyone is going to fool YOU. That's impossible... You know it's true...because you know it's true.

Religion at its finest.
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That is definetly not the response I was expecting from you. There is no reason to be harsh, and it is very telling.
And lol at "you people don't want the truth"...You are by far the least credible poster in your arguments that you bring about to discuss, which throws you in the pile with the rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4383319


Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


If you don't give a shit, then why are you still posting?
If you don't care if someone thinks you are credible or not, why pay attention to it? As long as you know you're right, you shouldn't get so mad. (advice for chemtards and tard-tards)
And if whining really bothered you, you wouldn't do it yourself.

Yeah, fuck yeah we want the truth, but you're not even posting it yourself, just facts about contrails and not chemtrails only because you don't have hard evidence, only a hard head.
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Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Served again, its becoming damn ridicules when you open your mouth.
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OK you chemtards

where are your chemtrails that last two weeks?
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#145 = 465
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#462 = crazy
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Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Served again, its becoming damn ridicules when you open your mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


So?!

It's a chemtard article...nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


I'm done with you, you lost. idiot.

You dont want the truth, you want a flame war, and i'm not having it.
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#145 = 465
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#462 = crazy
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lol........talking to yourself again? You are busted. You glorified fraud. You're the joke of the thread and everyone knows it. ohyeah
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Quote from the link [link to patft.uspto.gov]

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year.
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Yeah?

So?

How does that show that the trails in the sky aren't contrails or have anything to o with the patent?!

Hint...it doesn't...unless one makes a bunch of stupid assumptions.


You assume it's what you see in the sky...when in reality, "contrails" easily explain what you see. You have no evidence that "the particles" are responsible for the trails.

You are jumping to conclusions...because you're a paranoid idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038

dude, using the word paranoid just makes you a child newbie or also puts you in the trainee loser shill category. don't you learn? or don't your handlers pick up on this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29271249

i see the sr. airman at macdill finally stepped in and told the jrs. to cool it. they'd been had...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29271249
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Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Served again, its becoming damn ridicules when you open your mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


OK you chemtards

where are your chemtrails that last two weeks?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


WHAT? never I said that, grasping straws here?
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No, you people don't want truth. You want to jump to conclusion and make assumptions about your paranoid fantasy in an effort to recruit others into your pathetic cult of ignorance.

Contrails have always made the sky hazy. It just happens more often now because of the added flights, airports, air outer and high efficiency engines.

You chemtards like to assume that these things don't matter..you refuse to believe it, because it instantly kills the stupid fantasy.

And yes, you chemtards have actually recruited other gullible losers into your religion of stupidity.

Religion? Why?

Because ALL you have is faith...

Faith in your knowledge, the knowledge of your direct peers and faith in your belief that there is no way anyone is going to fool YOU. That's impossible... You know it's true...because you know it's true.

Religion at its finest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


That is definetly not the response I was expecting from you. There is no reason to be harsh, and it is very telling.
And lol at "you people don't want the truth"...You are by far the least credible poster in your arguments that you bring about to discuss, which throws you in the pile with the rest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4383319


Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


If you don't give a shit, then why are you still posting?
If you don't care if someone thinks you are credible or not, why pay attention to it? As long as you know you're right, you shouldn't get so mad. (advice for chemtards and tard-tards)
And if whining really bothered you, you wouldn't do it yourself.

Yeah, fuck yeah we want the truth, but you're not even posting it yourself, just facts about contrails and not chemtrails only because you don't have hard evidence, only a hard head.
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I don't give a shit about chemtards, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop posting the truth!

Again, you fail to understand that I'm not here to converse WITH you, I'm here to converse ABOUT you. You liars are defaming good people only because you are stupid and paranoid. The truth needs to posted next to your ignorant lies. The members of the aviation community deserve to be represented by truth.

That truth being, you people are stupid...and the trails are contrails.

The trails ARE contrails..you people have yet to show ANY evidence of "chemtrails". The burden of proof is on you losers to prove that the trails are anything more than contrails, and you fail!
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#145 = 465
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#462 = crazy
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lol........talking to yourself again? You are busted. You glorified fraud. You're the joke of the thread and everyone knows it. ohyeah
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Says some stupid chemtard...

Yawn....
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Harsh my ass!

You people couldn't care less about the truth. If you did, you would consult atmospheric scientists...not other chemtards, for your answers.


I don't give a shit if some chemtard can't recognize my credibility over that of his pathetic conspiracy nut loser Peers. Again, the fact that you people REFUSE to seek out those who have actually studied these subjects, says much more about you than you like to admit.

The fact remains, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails. You whining about my credibility doesn't change that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

Served again, its becoming damn ridicules when you open your mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


OK you chemtards

where are your chemtrails that last two weeks?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29077765


WHAT? never I said that, grasping straws here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28776550


In the link silly

also "The report published the following images provided by a former meteorologist at the Ontario Weather Service, showing spraying schemes for Europe. For December 6, 2008"

Do you know who that is?

Good old "Neck snapper" Kevin Martin

Kev is sharp enough to know the atmospheric conditions are more conducive to persistent contrails and that is how he made up his "chemtrail forecast" site.

The same data is how he does is fake "HAARP status" website hoax

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