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-=| TED Talk on Mound Builders, and connections to monuments worldwide |=-

 
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And who didn't know this?
I have known this information for decades.

The truth is hidden and many don't even want to know.
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12/06/2012 08:44 PM
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Pretty good stuff. I am well versed in most of it, but he does a good job of showing a lot of interesting data in a concise way. Worth the 20 minutes if you're into this kind of presentation.

What I find most interesting is how he off the bat describes WHY this kind of data is ignored. When something doesn't fit into a preconceived mold, it is ignored. Happens in sciences all the time.


 Quoting: J-Rod


Jim's a good friend. He's going to do his full 2 hour powerpoint on my show!

He's got great information.
 Quoting: Billxam


Anything you can link here? Curiousity piqued.
 Quoting: J-Rod


I'm impressed with him and his research! Thanks for sharing. This is the kind of guest they need here at glpvc.

I'm interested in the powerpoint info as well!
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12/06/2012 08:56 PM
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I actually grew up in the Cahokia Mounds area

I currently live less than ten minutes away




As a kid walking around in the woods on the bluffs I found a mound , its about 20 feet tall and 100 feet across , you can only see the mound in the winter when all the leaves fall off the trees ( the mound is covered in trees )

When you climb to the top of the mound you can see right over the edge of the bluff and you're looking right at the main mound in cahokia , 6 miles away.


There are no stories of giants here, nobody found any giant skulls


Because I have Native American ancestors ( Illini ) my front teeth have a small ridge across the back and my molars are wide with a deep "v" shaped channel

My grandfathers generation called them "Double row teeth"or "Indian Teeth".


The term simply means the skeletons had teeth that could be identified as "Plains Indians".


So when he started taking about "Double Row Teeth" and he didn't know what the term actually meant , it really blew his credibility.

He made an excellent point about Native structures beingnored in the North East though.
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I'm a student of archeology working on a Ph.D. I'm not claiming to know it all, but I am fairly deeply involved in my little corner of the science (SE US pre-contact native American peoples)..

There is a natural inertia found in hypothesis' and theories. When large volumes of evidence directly and indirectly supports a theory (often a hypothesis that is incorrectly termed a theory) it builds inertia. When scientists are slow to abandon such a theory that is not really always bad. Remember that the theory is very well substantiated.

At the same time spurious data is always popping up. If science abandoned established thought just to fit every bit of data or circumstance we'd be running in mad circles. The one thing that any research student learns is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. We must follow the preponderance of evidence. Another tenet is that when presented with possibilities the simplest one that conforms with the widest part of cross-disciplinary science is usually the right one.

When there is truly reasonable evidence supporting something don't believe for a second that the entire scientific community will ignore it because it doesn't fit their model. There are always adventurous eager researchers looking for that one hook that will overturn current thought and thereby immortalize them.
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And who didn't know this?
I have known this information for decades.

The truth is hidden and many don't even want to know.
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^^shut the hell up^^
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12/06/2012 10:13 PM
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great video.
thx for sharing, it was really worth to watch it.
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12/06/2012 10:16 PM
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Indian summer is a false double summer, just like the teeth.

Need pics of these double row teeth for observation and analysis
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12/06/2012 10:22 PM
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funny how this guy downplayed the pre-celtic influence in North Eastern America in favor of Giants.

Why cant the theory support both?

Neolithic Europeans talked about the same type of giants and recent studies show they may have crossed into America following Atlantic glaciers.
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I strongly believe that all the answers can be found right off the western coast of France.
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I actually grew up in the Cahokia Mounds area

I currently live less than ten minutes away




As a kid walking around in the woods on the bluffs I found a mound , its about 20 feet tall and 100 feet across , you can only see the mound in the winter when all the leaves fall off the trees ( the mound is covered in trees )

When you climb to the top of the mound you can see right over the edge of the bluff and you're looking right at the main mound in cahokia , 6 miles away.


There are no stories of giants here, nobody found any giant skulls


Because I have Native American ancestors ( Illini ) my front teeth have a small ridge across the back and my molars are wide with a deep "v" shaped channel

My grandfathers generation called them "Double row teeth"or "Indian Teeth".


The term simply means the skeletons had teeth that could be identified as "Plains Indians".


So when he started taking about "Double Row Teeth" and he didn't know what the term actually meant , it really blew his credibility.

He made an excellent point about Native structures beingnored in the North East though.
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I didn't know that either. Thanks for that tidbit, I honestly thought they were talking about two actual rows of teeth. I agree that if he says he's been studying it for over a decade, that he should have run into that fact already.

I guess most of my amazement comes from stuff like the ziggurauts all around the world, built close to the same time periods when supposedly there wasn't much if any global travel capabilities. It's obvious ancient people were obsessed with the heavens, much more so than even now. Maybe because it was more magical for them, maybe because of the lack of iPads. In any case, the amount of observations and math it takes to discover something like precession blows my mind.

Not the topic of these videos of course, but it all ties in the more you look at everything.

my .02
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I strongly believe that all the answers can be found right off the western coast of France.
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Thanks for the pin. I would like to see everyone enjoy some knowledge that isn't doom for once!
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But it is doom. The coke brothers want to subjugate the human race and transform them into the Morlocks.
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Me thinks it is most likly the Coke folks did not want anything standing in the way of progress and profit.

It is probably the biggest cover-up in our history. It has robbed us of a national heritage and the American Indian people of their own historical footprint.

What a price to pay for greed. question
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I'm a student of archeology working on a Ph.D. I'm not claiming to know it all, but I am fairly deeply involved in my little corner of the science (SE US pre-contact native American peoples)..

There is a natural inertia found in hypothesis' and theories. When large volumes of evidence directly and indirectly supports a theory (often a hypothesis that is incorrectly termed a theory) it builds inertia. When scientists are slow to abandon such a theory that is not really always bad. Remember that the theory is very well substantiated.

At the same time spurious data is always popping up. If science abandoned established thought just to fit every bit of data or circumstance we'd be running in mad circles. The one thing that any research student learns is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. We must follow the preponderance of evidence. Another tenet is that when presented with possibilities the simplest one that conforms with the widest part of cross-disciplinary science is usually the right one.

When there is truly reasonable evidence supporting something don't believe for a second that the entire scientific community will ignore it because it doesn't fit their model. There are always adventurous eager researchers looking for that one hook that will overturn current thought and thereby immortalize them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28618054


When!!??? It was found...lots of it. It was for the most part hidden and ignored. How much "truly interesting evidence" is required to not be ignored?

I would guess money played a major part in American discovery. Gold was not ignored. I assume it was easier to kill and imprison an indigenous people who were denied a historical ownership of the area. They were not only stripped of their lands, but their ancient history and the respect ancient ties give any people.

We Americans have so much to be proud of…………….not!
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