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How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?

 
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How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
I was raised in the Roman Catholic Church. I no longer believe most of its doctrine. How can I get present Roman Catholics to say that I am "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic." I will not ever return to being in the RCC. I would rather saw my own head off than be back in the RCC. Tell me if I am wrong - the RCC is not the mafia - right - once you are in the mafia, you can never leave...is that what the present Roman Catholics believe...you can never leave the RCC? I want to be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic!"
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I was raised in the Roman Catholic Church. I no longer believe most of its doctrine. How can I get present Roman Catholics to say that I am "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic." I will not ever return to being in the RCC. I would rather saw my own head off than be back in the RCC. Tell me if I am wrong - the RCC is not the mafia - right - once you are in the mafia, you can never leave...is that what the present Roman Catholics believe...you can never leave the RCC? I want to be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic!"
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Write them a disassociation letter maybe?
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
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REVELATION18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Now get youself a KJV BIBLE and dont look back.
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Would the present Roman Catholics then call me "not Catholic?" I mean I fit most of their criterion for ex-commication:

1.) I do not believe in transubstantiation.
2.) I do not believe Mary was sinless.
3.) I do not believe in forgiveness of sins by a priest.
4.) I do not believe in such a thing as "mortal" sin as I do not believe I can loose my salvation.
5.) I reject the idea of Christians still trying to follow the 10 commandments.
6.) I do not believe in praying to saints.
7.) I do not believe in the existence of a place called purgatory.
8.) I do not believe in prayer for the dead.
9.) I reject the papacy and the concept that the pope is some how the replacement for Christ on earth.
10.) I reject the concept of indulgences.

I could continue, but, clearly I am NOT a member of the Roman Catholic Church.

Please note: I am not asking for rebuttals or theological arguments on Roman Catholic Doctrine...simply put, I am not going back to the Roman Catholic Church. I am asking Catholics here: How do I get you to stop calling me a "fallen away Catholic" with the implication that I will someday go back. I will not ever again be a member of the Roman Catholic Church. I want to be called "not Catholic" - how do I get that moniker?
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REVELATION18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Now get youself a KJV BIBLE and dont look back.
 Quoting: Understudy 29232297


You may not understand. I have not been Roman Catholic for over 25 years...but, if you ask a Roman Catholic...they will call me a "fallen away Catholic." I don't want to be known as a "fallen away Catholic." That term implies that I will someday return to the Roman Catholic Church. I will not ever do that and I want to be known as that - somebody who will not return to the RCC. I am asking the Catholics here: How do I get you to call me "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
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Hahahahaha....

If you cared what people thought you would have remained Catholic...

So stop giving a shit. Please... you're annoying me with your stupidity.
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figure out a way to get ex-comunicated
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Would the present Roman Catholics then call me "not Catholic?" I mean I fit most of their criterion for ex-commication:

1.) I do not believe in transubstantiation.
2.) I do not believe Mary was sinless.
3.) I do not believe in forgiveness of sins by a priest.
4.) I do not believe in such a thing as "mortal" sin as I do not believe I can loose my salvation.
5.) I reject the idea of Christians still trying to follow the 10 commandments.
6.) I do not believe in praying to saints.
7.) I do not believe in the existence of a place called purgatory.
8.) I do not believe in prayer for the dead.
9.) I reject the papacy and the concept that the pope is some how the replacement for Christ on earth.
10.) I reject the concept of indulgences.

I could continue, but, clearly I am NOT a member of the Roman Catholic Church.

Please note: I am not asking for rebuttals or theological arguments on Roman Catholic Doctrine...simply put, I am not going back to the Roman Catholic Church. I am asking Catholics here: How do I get you to stop calling me a "fallen away Catholic" with the implication that I will someday go back. I will not ever again be a member of the Roman Catholic Church. I want to be called "not Catholic" - how do I get that moniker?
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Sell your Soul to Satan - He will fix it for you
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Hahahahaha....

If you cared what people thought you would have remained Catholic...

So stop giving a shit. Please... you're annoying me with your stupidity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


There is more to this post than you can understand...run along now...it is nearly your bed time.
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Sell your Soul to Satan - He will fix it for you
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This deluded asshole is even worse than the OP.
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figure out a way to get ex-comunicated
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Would the present Roman Catholics then call me "not Catholic?" I mean I fit most of their criterion for ex-commication:

1.) I do not believe in transubstantiation.
2.) I do not believe Mary was sinless.
3.) I do not believe in forgiveness of sins by a priest.
4.) I do not believe in such a thing as "mortal" sin as I do not believe I can loose my salvation.
5.) I reject the idea of Christians still trying to follow the 10 commandments.
6.) I do not believe in praying to saints.
7.) I do not believe in the existence of a place called purgatory.
8.) I do not believe in prayer for the dead.
9.) I reject the papacy and the concept that the pope is some how the replacement for Christ on earth.
10.) I reject the concept of indulgences.

I could continue, but, clearly I am NOT a member of the Roman Catholic Church.

Please note: I am not asking for rebuttals or theological arguments on Roman Catholic Doctrine...simply put, I am not going back to the Roman Catholic Church. I am asking Catholics here: How do I get you to stop calling me a "fallen away Catholic" with the implication that I will someday go back. I will not ever again be a member of the Roman Catholic Church. I want to be called "not Catholic" - how do I get that moniker?
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Sell your Soul to Satan - He will fix it for you
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No chance I would do that. I am a Christian. I am not Roman Catholic.
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Hahahahaha....

If you cared what people thought you would have remained Catholic...

So stop giving a shit. Please... you're annoying me with your stupidity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


There is more to this post than you can understand...run along now...it is nearly your bed time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


You're a clever one. You don't deny you're a weak individual who is the slave of other people's opinions.

Because if you did deny it, that would make you a liar.
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Oh OP, don't like that term "fallen away Catholic", it's your bitterness about your choice.

Once Catholic always Catholic. You will be judged on what you
understand. Understand, you've been given the true faith.

Once4All, a fallen away Catholic is preaching from the incomplete Protestant Bible with it's thousands of changes to
fit the heresies of Protestantism.

Once4All is going run from the Truth until the Great Warning. Pray for His conversion, actually, reversion. Pray for his entire family to return to the faith.

Eddy is bringing up the false "born again" meaning in his
Christmas, he says..."teaching" thread.

Where is the "water" in the altar call? So sad....
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Hahahahaha....

If you cared what people thought you would have remained Catholic...

So stop giving a shit. Please... you're annoying me with your stupidity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


There is more to this post than you can understand...run along now...it is nearly your bed time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


You're a clever one. You don't deny you're a weak individual who is the slave of other people's opinions.

Because if you did deny it, that would make you a liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


If you know any Catholics...ask them the question I have posed: How does somebody who was raised Catholic be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
REVELATION18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Now get youself a KJV BIBLE and dont look back.
 Quoting: Understudy 29232297


You may not understand. I have not been Roman Catholic for over 25 years...but, if you ask a Roman Catholic...they will call me a "fallen away Catholic." I don't want to be known as a "fallen away Catholic." That term implies that I will someday return to the Roman Catholic Church. I will not ever do that and I want to be known as that - somebody who will not return to the RCC. I am asking the Catholics here: How do I get you to call me "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


why would you want lost people to reconise you as any label, 25 years on, its time to move on surely. why on earth would you want to be labeled non catholic, this is not a game. I think your eternal life is more important.
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REVELATION18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Now get youself a KJV BIBLE and dont look back.
 Quoting: Understudy 29232297


You may not understand. I have not been Roman Catholic for over 25 years...but, if you ask a Roman Catholic...they will call me a "fallen away Catholic." I don't want to be known as a "fallen away Catholic." That term implies that I will someday return to the Roman Catholic Church. I will not ever do that and I want to be known as that - somebody who will not return to the RCC. I am asking the Catholics here: How do I get you to call me "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
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why would you want lost people to reconise you as any label, 25 years on, its time to move on surely. why on earth would you want to be labeled non catholic, this is not a game. I think your eternal life is more important.
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Because the OP is a child who has much to learn yet.
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figure out a way to get ex-comunicated
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Would the present Roman Catholics then call me "not Catholic?" I mean I fit most of their criterion for ex-commication:

1.) I do not believe in transubstantiation.
2.) I do not believe Mary was sinless.
3.) I do not believe in forgiveness of sins by a priest.
4.) I do not believe in such a thing as "mortal" sin as I do not believe I can loose my salvation.
5.) I reject the idea of Christians still trying to follow the 10 commandments.
6.) I do not believe in praying to saints.
7.) I do not believe in the existence of a place called purgatory.
8.) I do not believe in prayer for the dead.
9.) I reject the papacy and the concept that the pope is some how the replacement for Christ on earth.
10.) I reject the concept of indulgences.

I could continue, but, clearly I am NOT a member of the Roman Catholic Church.

Please note: I am not asking for rebuttals or theological arguments on Roman Catholic Doctrine...simply put, I am not going back to the Roman Catholic Church. I am asking Catholics here: How do I get you to stop calling me a "fallen away Catholic" with the implication that I will someday go back. I will not ever again be a member of the Roman Catholic Church. I want to be called "not Catholic" - how do I get that moniker?
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bump Praise Jesus! I've had to explain things to my Catholic parents about Christ. They take the Bibles out of those places.
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Oh OP, don't like that term "fallen away Catholic", it's your bitterness about your choice.

Once Catholic always Catholic. You will be judged on what you
understand. Understand, you've been given the true faith.

Once4All, a fallen away Catholic is preaching from the incomplete Protestant Bible with it's thousands of changes to
fit the heresies of Protestantism.

Once4All is going run from the Truth until the Great Warning. Pray for His conversion, actually, reversion. Pray for his entire family to return to the faith.

Eddy is bringing up the false "born again" meaning in his
Christmas, he says..."teaching" thread.

Where is the "water" in the altar call? So sad....
 Quoting: Mary 20541213


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Once Catholic Always Catholic!!!!!!

It is like a cult that you can never come out of!

Hypocrites! You view somebody who says "Once Saved Always Saved" as evil...because they think God will always give them a saving faith...but, you turn around and say that the Church is more powerful than God, because according to you, ONCE CATHOLIC ALWAYS CATHOLIC!!!

Jesus warned about your type! Tell me...come on now...how can I be "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Hahahahaha....

If you cared what people thought you would have remained Catholic...

So stop giving a shit. Please... you're annoying me with your stupidity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


There is more to this post than you can understand...run along now...it is nearly your bed time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


You're a clever one. You don't deny you're a weak individual who is the slave of other people's opinions.

Because if you did deny it, that would make you a liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


If you know any Catholics...ask them the question I have posed: How does somebody who was raised Catholic be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


OP you will always be a "fallen away Catholic" until you mend your ways and return
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Hahahahaha....

If you cared what people thought you would have remained Catholic...

So stop giving a shit. Please... you're annoying me with your stupidity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


There is more to this post than you can understand...run along now...it is nearly your bed time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


You're a clever one. You don't deny you're a weak individual who is the slave of other people's opinions.

Because if you did deny it, that would make you a liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


If you know any Catholics...ask them the question I have posed: How does somebody who was raised Catholic be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


If you have rejected Catholicism, why do you continue to play by it's rules?
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Oh OP, don't like that term "fallen away Catholic", it's your bitterness about your choice.

Once Catholic always Catholic. You will be judged on what you
understand. Understand, you've been given the true faith.

Once4All, a fallen away Catholic is preaching from the incomplete Protestant Bible with it's thousands of changes to
fit the heresies of Protestantism.

Once4All is going run from the Truth until the Great Warning. Pray for His conversion, actually, reversion. Pray for his entire family to return to the faith.

Eddy is bringing up the false "born again" meaning in his
Christmas, he says..."teaching" thread.

Where is the "water" in the altar call? So sad....
 Quoting: Mary 20541213


Seee...baby Protestantism. Baby Christians. There is no
altar
in Protestantism~!! You offer sacrifice on an altar and you need a priest, a spiritual basic.

You must come further, quit with the standard objections to
the faith, they've been explained thousands of times.

You choose it, grape juice and crackers or receiving Christ
Himself in the most Holy Eucharist and it takes 100% belief,
faith to believe Jesus is fully present in the consecrated host.

Remember, having faith makes God very happy, we all agree.
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There is more to this post than you can understand...run along now...it is nearly your bed time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


You're a clever one. You don't deny you're a weak individual who is the slave of other people's opinions.

Because if you did deny it, that would make you a liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


If you know any Catholics...ask them the question I have posed: How does somebody who was raised Catholic be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


If you have rejected Catholicism, why do you continue to play by it's rules?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


Do you not now understand? This is not about me. I am no longer Catholic. I haven't been in over 25 years. This is about Catholics...they can NEVER believe that anybody would leave the Roman church. They think their church is more powerful than God Himself! They believe that the Church always has its tentacles on anybody who was ever a member of it. They can't believe that God is powerful enough to maintain the faith of His children, but the Church's tentacles can't be broken. For a Catholic to actually acknowledge that somebody could leave the Roman church and its tentacles behind would be to deny the power of their church!
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Oh OP, don't like that term "fallen away Catholic", it's your bitterness about your choice.

Once Catholic always Catholic. You will be judged on what you
understand. Understand, you've been given the true faith.

Once4All, a fallen away Catholic is preaching from the incomplete Protestant Bible with it's thousands of changes to
fit the heresies of Protestantism.

Once4All is going run from the Truth until the Great Warning. Pray for His conversion, actually, reversion. Pray for his entire family to return to the faith.

Eddy is bringing up the false "born again" meaning in his
Christmas, he says..."teaching" thread.

Where is the "water" in the altar call?
So sad....
 Quoting: Mary 20541213


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!


Once Catholic Always Catholic!!!!!!

It is like a cult that you can never come out of!

Hypocrites! You view somebody who says "Once Saved Always Saved" as evil...because they think God will always give them a saving faith...but, you turn around and say that the Church is more powerful than God, because according to you, ONCE CATHOLIC ALWAYS CATHOLIC!!!

Jesus warned about your type! Tell me...come on now...how can I be "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


I asked the question and you didn't answer it.

You mock the faith and with such anger. I am sorry.
God erases the gift of the true faith just because a person
decides to leave it? No accounting? A person's spiritual life and what they will be judged on begins at the falling away, no.

God takes into account what a person understands, He is so
loving. History, the miraculous show Roman Catholicism is
the true faith but major, Protestantism and non-Christian
sects are easy to follow.

OSAS is heresy that stems from another Protestant heresy, Sola Fide.
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Oh OP, don't like that term "fallen away Catholic", it's your bitterness about your choice.

Once Catholic always Catholic. You will be judged on what you
understand. Understand, you've been given the true faith.

Once4All, a fallen away Catholic is preaching from the incomplete Protestant Bible with it's thousands of changes to
fit the heresies of Protestantism.

Once4All is going run from the Truth until the Great Warning. Pray for His conversion, actually, reversion. Pray for his entire family to return to the faith.

Eddy is bringing up the false "born again" meaning in his
Christmas, he says..."teaching" thread.

Where is the "water" in the altar call?
So sad....
 Quoting: Mary 20541213


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!


Once Catholic Always Catholic!!!!!!

It is like a cult that you can never come out of!

Hypocrites! You view somebody who says "Once Saved Always Saved" as evil...because they think God will always give them a saving faith...but, you turn around and say that the Church is more powerful than God, because according to you, ONCE CATHOLIC ALWAYS CATHOLIC!!!

Jesus warned about your type! Tell me...come on now...how can I be "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


I asked the question and you didn't answer it.

You mock the faith and with such anger. I am sorry.
God erases the gift of the true faith just because a person
decides to leave it? No accounting? A person's spiritual life and what they will be judged on begins at the falling away, no.

God takes into account what a person understands, He is so
loving. History, the miraculous show Roman Catholicism is
the true faith but major, Protestantism and non-Christian
sects are easy to follow.

OSAS is heresy that stems from another Protestant heresy, Sola Fide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


I asked first ;-) How can I be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
Oh OP, don't like that term "fallen away Catholic", it's your bitterness about your choice.

Once Catholic always Catholic. You will be judged on what you
understand. Understand, you've been given the true faith.

Once4All, a fallen away Catholic is preaching from the incomplete Protestant Bible with it's thousands of changes to
fit the heresies of Protestantism.

Once4All is going run from the Truth until the Great Warning. Pray for His conversion, actually, reversion. Pray for his entire family to return to the faith.

Eddy is bringing up the false "born again" meaning in his
Christmas, he says..."teaching" thread.

Where is the "water" in the altar call?
So sad....
 Quoting: Mary 20541213


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!


Once Catholic Always Catholic!!!!!!

It is like a cult that you can never come out of!

Hypocrites! You view somebody who says "Once Saved Always Saved" as evil...because they think God will always give them a saving faith...but, you turn around and say that the Church is more powerful than God, because according to you, ONCE CATHOLIC ALWAYS CATHOLIC!!!

Jesus warned about your type! Tell me...come on now...how can I be "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


I asked the question and you didn't answer it.

You mock the faith and with such anger. I am sorry.
God erases the gift of the true faith just because a person
decides to leave it? No accounting? A person's spiritual life and what they will be judged on begins at the falling away, no.

God takes into account what a person understands, He is so
loving. History, the miraculous show Roman Catholicism is
the true faith but major, Protestantism and non-Christian
sects are easy to follow.

OSAS is heresy that stems from another Protestant heresy, Sola Fide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


Realize: I am NOT asking for a debate on doctrine...I am asking how do I become considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic" OSAS is a doctrine that I am not now debating.
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You're a clever one. You don't deny you're a weak individual who is the slave of other people's opinions.

Because if you did deny it, that would make you a liar.
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If you know any Catholics...ask them the question I have posed: How does somebody who was raised Catholic be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic?"
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If you have rejected Catholicism, why do you continue to play by it's rules?
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Do you not now understand? This is not about me. I am no longer Catholic. I haven't been in over 25 years. This is about Catholics...they can NEVER believe that anybody would leave the Roman church. They think their church is more powerful than God Himself! They believe that the Church always has its tentacles on anybody who was ever a member of it. They can't believe that God is powerful enough to maintain the faith of His children, but the Church's tentacles can't be broken. For a Catholic to actually acknowledge that somebody could leave the Roman church and its tentacles behind would be to deny the power of their church!
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And? The world is full of moronic, deluded idiots. If you haven't learnt how to deal with that in 25 years, you're doomed buddy.
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
I was raised in the Roman Catholic Church. I no longer believe most of its doctrine. How can I get present Roman Catholics to say that I am "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic." I will not ever return to being in the RCC. I would rather saw my own head off than be back in the RCC. Tell me if I am wrong - the RCC is not the mafia - right - once you are in the mafia, you can never leave...is that what the present Roman Catholics believe...you can never leave the RCC? I want to be considered "not Catholic" and not a "fallen away Catholic!"
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Try three things.

Go piss in the local churches holy water...if that does not get the message across...go and masturbate all over the altar and poop into the chalice..if THAT does not get the message across...get some pictures of the local priest doing their usual disgusting thing to the altar boys and post it on youtube and expose him..cause a TRUE catholic would never stoop SO low as to dob in one of their child molesters..oops..I mean preists.
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
get a t-shirt with "I AM NOT A CATHOLIC" on it?
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
If you received the sacrament of confirmation, you are always Catholic in God's eyes, thus the phrase "fallen away Catholic" or "back slidden". This goes for anyone who was confirmed in the Catholic faith.
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Agreed. As a baby, Jesus had not yet received the Holy Spirit, so my GUESS is that He did not yet have the power to project Himself. (I am a little shaky on the idea and plan to look into it more). When He was crucified, He had all power and could have refused the crucifixion.
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hmmm... interesting thinking. Right, He did not have the Holy Spirit when He was born. I think He was at the mercy of those arround Him which is why the Angel told them to flee shortly after His birth.
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The part that confuses me, and which I will need to review, is how the Holy Spirit could have conceived Jesus, and Jesus not have the Holy Spirit. Also, when Mary met Elizabeth, John the Baptist jumped in her womb; he had the Holy Spirit even in the womb. I have some reading to do.
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While we are at it... Was Jesus "born again" ???
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He is the firstborn into eternal life, I believe, given that that everyone born again is born of the Spirit which became available only after Jesus rose and ascended. All of these great questions, and so many assumptions I have never really challenged. And I still have not opened my Bible this evening. But I will! I know the answers are there.

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No SoulWinner,

All your questions are answered by the Church. Once4All
knows this and plays the Protestant game, you get to decide the meaning of Scripture. Heresy.

God did not give every person the authority to interpret
Scripture, this is Protestant heresy. The reasons for their
not knowing and all the division.
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Re: How can I go beyond "fallen away Catholic" to "not Catholic"?
If you received the sacrament of confirmation, you are always Catholic in God's eyes, thus the phrase "fallen away Catholic" or "back slidden". This goes for anyone who was confirmed in the Catholic faith.
 Quoting: Generation Doom


So let me get this straight...when God says he casts sin away and never will remember it...He can do that...but, He can't forget that somebody was Roman Catholic? That is your argument? So, according to you, sin is less important that Roman Catholic Church membership? God can forget sin, but He cannot forget Roman Catholic Church membership...which according to others here...when I left would be part of my judgment (that I left the RCC). Do you see any difference between the Catholic church and the mafia? The mafia says that once a member always a member too!